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| archels | haha, we're doing a "One Sentence Summary" now in papers? | 03:20 |
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| archels | lazy crowd | 03:20 |
| archels | pretty pictures of dendritic spines http://biorxiv.org/content/biorxiv/early/2015/03/11/016329.full.pdf | 03:22 |
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| andytoshi | fenn: "argument of knowledge" because it's only computationally sound, or because "proof" is a bullshit word regardless? | 06:09 |
| andytoshi | fenn: ah, because A is what's in the acronym ... yeah, you're right | 06:09 |
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| kanzure_ | beep boop | 07:19 |
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| nickjohnson | So, I'm about to launch my next Kickstarter, for an Arduino-compatible DDS signal generator and frequency counter. I'd really appreciate some feedback on the page and video before I launch. Any thoughts? https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/nickjohnson/1243692410?token=8bd558fb | 07:56 |
| chris_99 | looks cool, i was looking at the AD5932 recently | 08:06 |
| nickjohnson | IIRC, I evaluated that, but picked the AD9838 because it's a lot cheaper, and the frequency sweep features can be reproduced by the microcontroller | 08:08 |
| chris_99 | yeah it looks like its around ~4x cheaper | 08:10 |
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| chris_99 | nickjohnson, is 'temperature compensated crystal' different to an OXCO out of interest | 11:21 |
| nickjohnson | chris_99: yes, an ocxo is another step up in accuracy (and price, and size) from a tcxo | 11:24 |
| nickjohnson | They cost nearly as much as the tsunami, and are almost as big :) | 11:25 |
| chris_99 | hehe, how does a TCXO compensate for temp effects | 11:25 |
| archels | just get a rubidium module if you want an accurate clock, they're dead cheap these days | 11:43 |
| nickjohnson | chris_99: it has an internal thermocouple and a voltage controlled oscillator, and adjusts the voltage according to temperature | 11:45 |
| chris_99 | aha neat | 11:45 |
| chris_99 | i've got some of those archels, they glow a nice purple colour i found after opening them up | 11:46 |
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| kanzure | .title https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBlDGX95eys | 11:51 |
| yoleaux | Kanzi An Ape of Genius Part 1 - YouTube | 11:51 |
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| delinquentme | kanzure, ||= equivalent in pythong | 12:24 |
| ParahSailin | write it out | 12:26 |
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| kanzure | blah = blah or blah | 12:32 |
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| fenn | 34% of gamma ray emission sources are unknown http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/GLAST/news/10_Gev_graph.html | 16:41 |
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| kanzure | hmm | 16:59 |
| fenn | google shutting down google code :( | 17:05 |
| fenn | gitorious was paid to shut down last week | 17:05 |
| fenn | what's left | 17:05 |
| fenn | i don't want github to turn into facebook 2.0 | 17:06 |
| fenn | it's crap like this that makes me want people to use IPFS | 17:07 |
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| jrayhawk | i host git repos | 17:12 |
| fenn | if you're serious about it, now would be a good time to advertise | 17:15 |
| fenn | even just a comment on hacker news would likely get a lot of interest | 17:15 |
| fenn | i'm more concerned with links breaking and the half life of web pages and links rapidly falling | 17:15 |
| fenn | http://google-opensource.blogspot.com/2015/03/farewell-to-google-code.html has comments from the CEO of gitlab and (ex-) CEO of gitorious | 17:16 |
| fenn | (not like it matters) | 17:16 |
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| fenn | wtf is wrong with chris dibona, "open source advocate" heartily recommending gitlab, who just paid to shut down the major AGPL open source code repository | 17:18 |
| catern | fenn: what AGPL repository? | 17:19 |
| fenn | gitorious | 17:20 |
| archels | he must be an open source advocate rather than a free software advocate | 17:20 |
| kanzure | dibona posted a comment on hacker news and the gitlab purpose was like "thanks, i'm stealing that" | 17:20 |
| kanzure | *gitlab person | 17:20 |
| archels | afaik the main point of gitlab is to let people set up their own, local repositories | 17:21 |
| kanzure | nah they have some enterprise product | 17:21 |
| archels | so this is not so much a step towards monoculture | 17:22 |
| archels | yeah, well, they have to make money somehow | 17:22 |
| fenn | they sell crippleware, fuck them | 17:22 |
| fenn | also, they shut down gitorious, so fuck them again | 17:22 |
| fenn | also their mascot is creepy as hell | 17:22 |
| kanzure | well at least nasa keeps their papers online | 17:25 |
| archels | hehe yes | 17:25 |
| kanzure | archels: they don't | 17:25 |
| fenn | huh? no they didn't | 17:25 |
| fenn | there are huge swaths of nasa technical reports server data missing for no particular reason | 17:26 |
| archels | kanzure: I wouldn't trust them to, no | 17:29 |
| archels | maybe archiveteam or other internetpersons have a chunk | 17:29 |
| fenn | i doubt it | 17:30 |
| fenn | archiveteam didn't really exist until geocities was shut down | 17:30 |
| fenn | oops i might have some dates wrong | 17:31 |
| fenn | nasa NTRS goes offline 2013-03-21 | 17:31 |
| fenn | geocities shut down 2009-04 | 17:32 |
| fenn | the difference is that geocities stayed online for a few months before disappearing completely, so there was time to copy some of it | 17:33 |
| catern | fenn: is gitlab actually crippleware? I set it up once, seemed to work | 17:34 |
| fenn | https://about.gitlab.com/features/#compare | 17:35 |
| fenn | no git-annex, no hooks, no group membership in "community edition" | 17:37 |
| catern | ah, well, all these web uis are trash anyway. that does look pretty bad though | 17:37 |
| archels | I use a local GitLab install almost daily and am pretty happy with it--as far as web UIs go though, yeah | 17:44 |
| fenn | i had actually never heard of gitlab until they shut down gitorious out of the blue | 17:45 |
| kanzure | fenn, you might know gitlab as gitlabhq | 17:48 |
| kanzure | they are the same people | 17:48 |
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| nmz787_i | .title http://www.omscs.gatech.edu/ | 18:21 |
| yoleaux | OMSCS - Georgia Institute of Technology | 18:21 |
| nmz787_i | "The Georgia Institute of Technology, Udacity and AT&T have teamed up to offer the first accredited Master of Science in Computer Science that students can earn exclusively through the Massive Open Online Course (MOOC) delivery format and for a fraction of the cost of traditional, on-campus programs." | 18:21 |
| nmz787_i | 'under 7k' | 18:23 |
| heath | nmz787_i: old news | 18:31 |
| heath | that was last year's news, are they just now opening it up? | 18:31 |
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| heath | http://img.pandawhale.com/gr0lEm-how-small-bitcoin-miners-lose-hxPj.jpeg | 18:53 |
| fenn | he should be nude, because it's actually a nude beach/cruising spot | 19:03 |
| fenn | also the first place i saw an in-the-wild aerial drone | 19:03 |
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| fenn | branch-level write access control makes a lot of sense for code repositories | 19:14 |
| fenn | hmm.. "I'm expecting Google to purchase GitHub next" hmm.. | 19:19 |
| fenn | really not looking forward to having plus linked to everything everywhere all the time mandatory | 19:20 |
| fenn | "So basically this is our 5 year warning on GitHub closing down" | 19:22 |
| fenn | it would be funny, but it's probably true | 19:22 |
| kanzure | i don't see the humor here | 19:23 |
| kanzure | what's so bad about google code shutting down? doesn't everyone compulsively archive the shit that matters to them? | 19:23 |
| nmz787_i | http://www.reddit.com/r/wicked_edge/comments/27wjrp/scanning_electron_micrographs_of_a_used_8_shaves/ | 19:24 |
| fenn | kanzure: link rot, and abandoned projects that you can't find because the hosting had shut down | 19:24 |
| fenn | and no, everyone doesn't compulsively archive anything | 19:25 |
| fenn | they all so "oh it's in the cloud, google will take care of it" | 19:25 |
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| kanzure | well maybe those people deserve to be wrong | 19:25 |
| fenn | also most people don't know how to search archive.org for database dumps | 19:26 |
| fenn | hey it would be great if when people's shit disappeared they learned their lesson, but usually it's someone else who has the difficulty with the thing having been disappeared | 19:26 |
| kanzure | maybe the nsa has a copy | 19:27 |
| fenn | like, "hey i can't download this code to do the thing i'm trying to do" but there's no way to contact the author and no other copies online | 19:27 |
| fenn | git should have solved this since every chunk is uniquely hashed and it should all just go into a big pile of hashes like freenet | 19:27 |
| fenn | but that hasn't happened for some reason | 19:28 |
| fenn | like, why can i download a random movie by googling its hash, but i can't download a random commit by its hash? | 19:28 |
| kanzure | because nobody exposes .git directories | 19:28 |
| kanzure | also, google indexes git commits when http servers render those commits | 19:29 |
| fenn | even if they had been exposed nobody would be mirroring them in an accessible way | 19:29 |
| fenn | you can't git-clone a google cache result :( | 19:29 |
| fenn | this is such a stupid problem | 19:30 |
| fenn | you can store all code ever written on a single hard drive | 19:30 |
| kanzure | facebook has 50 gigabytes of source code not including history | 19:31 |
| fenn | whatever | 19:31 |
| kanzure | don't underestimate a million monkeys on a million and one typewriters | 19:31 |
| fenn | .wa 50 gigabytes / 6 terabytes | 19:31 |
| yoleaux | (50 GB (gigabytes))/(6 TB (terabytes)): 0.008333 | 19:31 |
| fenn | also i am really skeptical of that figure | 19:32 |
| kanzure | hmph | 19:45 |
| kanzure | hmmppph | 19:57 |
| fenn | .g ievan polka | 19:58 |
| yoleaux | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ievan_Polkka | 19:58 |
| fenn | ha finally someone mentioned repo.or.cz | 20:09 |
| fenn | orthodoxy to the rescue! | 20:10 |
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| kanzure | why does ralph merkle always look like he's stuck in 1968? | 20:31 |
| eudoxia | not reaaally | 20:34 |
| eudoxia | there's a picture of him in front of a computer when he looks kinda not 1968 | 20:34 |
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| nmz787_ii | http://www.scs.illinois.edu/burke/index.php?p=research1 | 21:56 |
| nmz787_ii | .title | 21:56 |
| yoleaux | The Burke Laboratories >> research | 21:56 |
| nmz787_ii | http://www.sciencemag.org/content/347/6227/1221 | 21:57 |
| nmz787_ii | .title | 21:57 |
| nmz787_ii | Synthesis of many different types of organic small molecules using one automated process | 21:57 |
| yoleaux | nmz787_ii: Sorry, that command (.title) took too long to process. | 21:57 |
| nmz787_ii | uses MIDA boronate handles | 21:57 |
| nmz787_ii | all 'That study employed a synthesis platform analogous to iterative peptide coupling that sequentially assembles bifunctional N-methyliminodiacetic acid (MIDA) boronates (Fig. 1B) (14). Iterative cycles of coupling and deprotection are enabled by the MIDA ligand, which attenuates the reactivity of boronic acids and thus prevents undesired oligomerization.' | 21:58 |
| kanzure | "it's almost like chemical synthesizers never existed" | 21:59 |
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| delinquentme | "Burke says the hard part was figuring out the new cleanup method that happens after each chemical reaction" | 23:01 |
| delinquentme | http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/health/a14528/the-chemistry-3d-printer-can-craft-rare-medicinal-molecules-from-scratch/ | 23:01 |
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| fenn | 1D printer | 23:59 |
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