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| chris_99 | http://arstechnica.com/science/2015/03/liquid-droplets-that-chase-each-other-across-a-surface/ | 04:04 |
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| chris_99 | i found the printer i'm gonna pull apart :) i ordered some new inks to make sure i can test it properly | 05:34 |
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| kanzure | hmm | 06:23 |
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| CaptHindsight | chris_99: why do you want you use piezo printhead to pump fluids through some microchannels? | 06:26 |
| CaptHindsight | the epson's won't provide much pressure | 06:27 |
| CaptHindsight | (humbly asked without any judgment) | 06:29 |
| CaptHindsight | http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/20/science/biologists-call-for-halt-to-gene-editing-technique-in-humans.html?_r=0 | 06:32 |
| t12 | v sneaky self promotion | 06:45 |
| t12 | as if crispr is that easy | 06:45 |
| kanzure | moratoriums are just their way of saying they want complete dominion over space, matter and time | 06:50 |
| kanzure | "we demand that all cells everywhere stop replicating during a mandatory 1 year moratorium" | 06:50 |
| kanzure | "Account suspended" https://twitter.com/FakeEliezer | 06:54 |
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| CaptHindsight | I'm a bit happy that they didn't mention a god at all for one of the reasons | 07:12 |
| JayDugger | Good morning, everyone. | 07:14 |
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| kanzure | http://rossmounce.co.uk/2015/03/19/how-to-block-readcube-and-why/ | 07:32 |
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| CaptHindsight | kanzure: how well do you know these guys? http://cambriangenomics.com/ | 07:39 |
| kanzure | fenn used to live with them | 07:53 |
| CaptHindsight | I was just wondering about their patents, patent plans and openness since they have investors | 07:55 |
| kanzure | they posted some details to the diybio mailing list once | 07:56 |
| kanzure | https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/diybio/YqGUf3A9AKo/U0hMHboWMC8J | 07:57 |
| CaptHindsight | kind of puts making open laptops, sbc's and ECU's into perspective | 08:00 |
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| chris_99 | sorry CaptHindsight was afk yeah i agree you're right, i also want to use it for some silly other projects too | 09:01 |
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| CaptHindsight | chris_99: the heads are pretty much the same for all the consumer desktop aqueous epsons | 09:21 |
| CaptHindsight | keep an eye out for when they are clearing out inventory, they drop <$60 new | 09:21 |
| CaptHindsight | chris_99: the other cheap piezo to look at are the Richo geljet's http://www.ricoh.com/geljet/technology.html | 09:26 |
| CaptHindsight | chris_99: and if you need high temp heads 80-100C and or more nozzles look at the colorqube wax printers by xerox | 09:28 |
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| kanzure | why is everyone dead today | 09:32 |
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| andytoshi | some of us were up late reading lesswrong posts from 2008 | 09:36 |
| andytoshi | also maybe we were suspended like FakeEliezer | 09:37 |
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| chris_99 | cheers, not heard of the richo ones CaptHindsight | 09:47 |
| chris_99 | i just found i can get a liquid lens for £40 | 09:48 |
| chris_99 | might get one to play wit | 09:48 |
| chris_99 | h | 09:48 |
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| kanzure | "Rationality, properly understood, is in fact a predictor of success. Perhaps if LWers used success as their metric (as opposed to getting better at avoiding obvious mistakes), they might focus on their most important irrationalities (instead of their most obvious ones), which would lead them to be more rational and more successful." | 10:12 |
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| andytoshi | i think it's easy to apply such a definition of rationality when "failure" is visible ... eg you if you submit a manuscript to some publisher and get rejected, you can do the "is that your real rejection?" shit, analyze where you went wrong, retry with specific things changed to see how reactions differ, etc | 10:38 |
| andytoshi | but my guess is most people on lw do not interact with the world in a way where they have visible successes and failures | 10:38 |
| andytoshi | like, they aren't out trying things that are likely fail | 10:39 |
| andytoshi | so you can say "well you've been in your parents' basement for 5 years and have no income or credentials" but there isn't any bright line they crossed where that became true where they can go back and try something different | 10:40 |
| andytoshi | maybe i'm being uncharitable :) i don't actually know any lw'ers in real life except where they intersect with ##hplus | 10:41 |
| t12 | lol less wrong | 10:57 |
| t12 | how to rapidly place yourself in a local minima | 10:57 |
| t12 | and stay there! | 10:57 |
| andytoshi | t12: if there's a way to get out of a local minima then you can find it by rationality http://lesswrong.com/lw/vp/worse_than_random/ | 11:03 |
| andytoshi | therefore there is nothing smarter than to just keep reading lw qed | 11:04 |
| andytoshi | (i'm kidding on both counts) | 11:04 |
| t12 | wow people type alot of words into this site | 11:06 |
| chris_99 | can someone tell me what the site to replace wikipedia was wrt yudkowsky? | 11:07 |
| kanzure | tumblr | 11:07 |
| andytoshi | chris_99: http://hpmor.com/notes/119/ i think is the only mention, he gives no name | 11:09 |
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| chris_99 | how dissapointing | 11:09 |
| kanzure | hahaha "First, I’ve designed an attempted successor to Wikipedia and/or Tumblr and/or peer review, and a friend of mine is working full-time on implementing it." | 11:10 |
| kanzure | i missed the second part when i first read that | 11:10 |
| kanzure | specifically, he has a friend implementing it for him. how hilarious. | 11:10 |
| chris_99 | i wonder where he's gonna get all the content from | 11:10 |
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| t12 | wikipedia | 11:19 |
| chris_99 | heh | 11:20 |
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| nmz787_i | Daeken: for increasing the number of uses a master mold can be used, check into anti-stiction compounds such as FDTS | 11:23 |
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| chris_99 | kanzure, since you're into btc, do you know any decent books on SMC per chance? i found http://www.amazon.co.uk/Secure-Multiparty-Computation-Secret-Sharing/dp/1107043050/ref=asap_bc?ie=UTF8 but alas it's not out for a while | 12:05 |
| kanzure | andytoshi: that seems like a question better suited for you | 12:06 |
| chris_99 | http://www.daimi.au.dk/~ivan/MPCbook.pdf seems to be the closest i've found | 12:11 |
| chris_99 | which may actually be a draft for that particular book | 12:11 |
| chris_99 | although it has a diff. title | 12:11 |
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| andytoshi | chris_99: afraid i don't know | 12:55 |
| Daeken | nmz787: cool, thanks. i figured some sort of release would be usable for this. otherwise the su-8 is going to start to have tiny issues over time | 12:56 |
| chris_99 | andytoshi, no worries, i'll go through that one | 12:58 |
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| delinquentme | KEK. Kek. kek. | 13:28 |
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| archels | kanzure: seen this? http://www.beeraider.com/ | 14:01 |
| nmz787_i1 | "Some Christian doctrines oppose the idea of playing God, whereas in Judaism and Islam there is the notion “that humankind is supposed to improve the world.”" | 14:02 |
| nmz787_i1 | huh, didn't know or expect the latter half of that sentence | 14:03 |
| cluckj | really? | 14:04 |
| cluckj | sorry, didn't mean to be an asshole :) | 14:06 |
| nmz787_i1 | cluckj: you referring to the keyboard or that NYtimes quote? | 14:07 |
| cluckj | the times | 14:07 |
| nmz787_i1 | archels: looks pretty cool... they have an android app that people seem to like | 14:07 |
| delinquentme | bernerfits / drewberks of instantiating via python modules / packages ... compared to python instancing system level calls | 14:07 |
| nmz787_i1 | cluckj: nope, I'm not too knowledgable regarding religions... I know a bit about buddhism and hinduism and little about christian/abrahamic ones, but really not too much outside the noah's ark and tower of babel and other parables | 14:09 |
| nmz787_i1 | delinquentme: u sentenz makes no senz | 14:09 |
| cluckj | lots of weird cultural shit comes out of religous practice, even if you don't practice it yourself | 14:10 |
| delinquentme | so nmz787_i1 when Im instancing up modules ... their internal path references are nice and well behaved ... but this leads to : ValueError: signal only works in main thread ... bc subprocess | 14:10 |
| delinquentme | however that can be solved by python > subprocess > os level / shell > python | 14:10 |
| delinquentme | but then those filepaths internal to the module are phuarked + need updated. | 14:11 |
| nmz787_i1 | delinquentme: you can make a copy of your env variables and pass them to the subprocess.Popen call | 14:12 |
| nmz787_i1 | if that would helpo | 14:12 |
| nmz787_i1 | delinquentme: do you have __init__ in all your packages/modules? | 14:12 |
| nmz787_i1 | __init__.py | 14:12 |
| delinquentme | the ones in question............. | 14:13 |
| delinquentme | yeth. | 14:13 |
| cluckj | nmz787, https://archive.org/details/elementaryformso00durkrich shitty translation, but free | 14:13 |
| nmz787_i1 | delinquentme: are you doing ssh? use paramiko? | 14:13 |
| nmz787_i1 | cluckj: are you recommending that for fun, or for some purpose like "winning friends and influencing others"? | 14:15 |
| cluckj | just funsies | 14:15 |
| delinquentme | nmz787_i1, no shh related operations here | 14:16 |
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| kanzure | delinquentme: file paths should only be used in tandem with os.path.abspath and os.path.dirname | 14:22 |
| delinquentme | kanzure, and this is smart for python code that we'd want to deploy as 3rd party modules | 14:26 |
| delinquentme | Im getting a pretty good explanation in #python as to practices here. | 14:26 |
| delinquentme | the internal referencing using os.path.abspath and .dirname are perfect... except this application is doing logging ... and those logs should be some place more accessible than the package itself | 14:27 |
| nmz787_i1 | delinquentme: why not just pass the logging path to Popen? | 14:33 |
| kanzure | logs should be going to a log stream handler | 14:33 |
| kanzure | then downstream applications or users hsould be able to redirect the logs to wherever they see fit | 14:33 |
| nmz787_i1 | like a socket? | 14:33 |
| nmz787_i1 | (when you say stream handler) | 14:34 |
| nmz787_i1 | huh, Intel Capital has (or had?) it's hand in PacBio http://www.pacificbiosciences.com/img/press_release_assets/SeriesE_Release_Final_080714_letterhead_0.pdf | 14:46 |
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| chris_99 | might be of interest, a while ago some of you were talking about ToF stuff, apparently the kinect 2 has a 512x424 ToF sensor | 15:20 |
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| nmz787_i1 | who was yogeebear and why did they want to send me a file? | 16:43 |
| nmz787_i1 | is my IP address making me a targer? | 16:43 |
| nmz787_i1 | target | 16:43 |
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| cluckj | he was looking for bots, I think | 16:47 |
| kanzure | those are often keyloggers | 16:47 |
| kanzure | and other exciting forms of malware | 16:47 |
| nmz787_i1 | I was thinking last night... why don't they rent out the major concert arenas for jukebox nights... or bring-your-ipod nights | 16:49 |
| nmz787_i1 | i haven't 'felt the bass in my chest' for many years | 16:50 |
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| delinquentme | Why in fuck. are people. EVERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR using spaces in filepath names. | 17:26 |
| delinquentme | WHUY U LIK DEH HURT? | 17:26 |
| delinquentme | ERURGHHhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh | 17:26 |
| Lemminkainen | careful you don't pop a gasket there, delinquentme | 17:28 |
| delinquentme | nah Lemminkainen I just have to write code to handle crap people put into codebases. | 17:29 |
| Lemminkainen | that seems circular | 17:31 |
| Lemminkainen | how do you know that your code won't be judged similarly frustrating in the future by another plumber? | 17:31 |
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| delinquentme | hahahah Lemminkainen | 17:41 |
| delinquentme | +1 | 17:41 |
| delinquentme | Lemminkainen, just FYI, and I know you'd never do it ... but the naming conventions windows lets you get away with ... would just add stupid bullshit to the lives of your sysadmins | 17:54 |
| delinquentme | never ever spaces in filenames | 17:54 |
| Lemminkainen | already ahead of you by just not using Windows for anything | 17:57 |
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| delinquentme | Lemminkainen, bring me carbs | 18:04 |
| delinquentme | PREEZ. | 18:05 |
| delinquentme | preez. | 18:05 |
| Lemminkainen | cannot | 18:11 |
| Lemminkainen | I am laid up with a sprained ankle | 18:11 |
| delinquentme | WHUT> YU TWIST IT? | 18:13 |
| Lemminkainen | jump a ditch trail running, land funny, keep running long enough to really fuck it up | 18:14 |
| Lemminkainen | yay | 18:14 |
| delinquentme | Oh theres your problem ! | 18:14 |
| delinquentme | humans: we're not really made to run | 18:15 |
| delinquentme | you want wheels. | 18:15 |
| delinquentme | http://ep1.pinkbike.org/p4pb11927589/p4pb11927589.jpg | 18:15 |
| delinquentme | there you go Lemminkainen | 18:15 |
| Lemminkainen | eh | 18:17 |
| Lemminkainen | trail running and hill sprints are where it's at | 18:17 |
| delinquentme | Lemminkainen, TRANSCEND the limitations of the human bodeh. | 18:20 |
| delinquentme | trololol <3 | 18:20 |
| Lemminkainen | working on it | 18:23 |
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| Lemminkainen | probably shouldn't have tried switching to "barefoot" shoes with no ankle anything AND gone sprinting downhill at once | 18:23 |
| delinquentme | Lemminkainen, you know bikes come in *offroad* versions too ? | 18:24 |
| delinquentme | lemme help you w some shopping. | 18:24 |
| Lemminkainen | appreciate it, but not looking for a bike right now | 18:25 |
| delinquentme | http://www.ebay.com/itm/2014-SPECIALIZED-S-WORKS-DEMO-8-CARBON-MEDIUM-M-Downhill-Bike-DH-Boxxer-WC-MINT-/281624249625?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item41921d0519 | 18:25 |
| delinquentme | there you go. | 18:26 |
| delinquentme | thats reasonable | 18:26 |
| delinquentme | LOOK AT THE ENGINEERING THOUGH. | 18:26 |
| Lemminkainen | if I wanted to spend $5K on any fine engineering right now it'd be a 1200W tube amp head and 2 8x10 cabs | 18:26 |
| Lemminkainen | and I'd probably have enough left over to rebuild all my pedals | 18:26 |
| delinquentme | Oh pedals | 18:27 |
| delinquentme | you mean to stomp on | 18:27 |
| delinquentme | with your feets | 18:27 |
| Lemminkainen | yes | 18:27 |
| delinquentme | yeah. | 18:27 |
| delinquentme | lolololol | 18:27 |
| * delinquentme hugs Lemminkainen | 18:28 | |
| delinquentme | Lemminkainen, do you guys need any equip? bio depot thing happening tomorrow morning | 18:28 |
| Lemminkainen | I'm in the market for a used Hamilton liquid handling system to take apart | 18:28 |
| Lemminkainen | backup FTIR wouldn't hurt | 18:29 |
| Lemminkainen | where is this depot taking place? | 18:29 |
| delinquentme | YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS | 18:30 |
| delinquentme | MODELS RUN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | 18:30 |
| delinquentme | Lemminkainen, its near SFO | 18:30 |
| Lemminkainen | deets | 18:30 |
| delinquentme | Lemminkainen, I no hev your emails???? | 18:31 |
| delinquentme | pm | 18:31 |
| delinquentme | i forward | 18:31 |
| delinquentme | is there a way to approximate the caloric load of your brain? | 18:44 |
| delinquentme | kanzureagi, Lemminkainen nmz787 ParahSailin | 18:44 |
| ParahSailin | photoplesmyography of the great vein of galen | 18:45 |
| ParahSailin | which is actually a different thing than one must suspect | 18:45 |
| delinquentme | so towards the end of the day , I want to keep working ... and I suppose after focusing all day the brain wants easy simple replenishment | 18:47 |
| delinquentme | i should probs reach for something OTHER than willy wonka esque sugar refinery | 18:48 |
| delinquentme | but gummy rocks put my brain exactly where it wants to be | 18:48 |
| Lemminkainen | whiskey got carbs | 18:48 |
| delinquentme | my balmers peak is a molehill | 18:49 |
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| kanzure | beep boop | 21:45 |
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| kanzure | https://soundcloud.com/paveldenisov/pavel-denisov-immersion-original-mix | 22:32 |
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