2015-04-10.log

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nmz787_iif this would only get easier to do and figure out pinouts faster/semi-automatically https://hackaday.io/project/4177-lvds-laptop-display-interfacing00:53
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ParahSailinapparently one can get through a CS program in uni without learning touch type06:59
ParahSailinand IIT06:59
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kanzurehehe07:05
ParahSailin... just when im feeling like an imposter07:06
kanzureyou feel like an imposter?07:10
kanzurei will keep this in mind when i am browbeating you in the near future07:11
ParahSailinnot really07:11
kanzureyou can also sometimes get through comp sci without programming07:12
ParahSailinwell presumably getting through without learning to type is a fortiori can't program07:12
ParahSailinunless you are the guy with the ij in his name07:13
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kanzurehttps://westhunt.wordpress.com/2015/04/09/cell-line-infections-or-my-dog-has-no-bones/08:21
kanzurehttp://createdigitalmusic.com/2014/10/nasa-posts-huge-library-space-sounds-youre-free-use/08:27
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ParahSailinwhat --target does one use for android-32 jni so's09:19
ParahSailinin objdump for instance09:19
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kanzurearmv8a?09:32
ParahSailinwhatever it is, apparently gnu binutils doesnt carry it09:34
kanzureand here i thought you were above making fart apps09:35
ParahSailinfart app?09:38
kanzurejust guessing10:07
chris_99Did someone here make an x,y,z stage for a microscope, i thought i remember someone talking about one10:07
chris_99*an automated one10:08
nmz787_i1chris_99: I talked about it, basing it largely on the success of this http://openlabtools.eng.cam.ac.uk/Instruments/Microscope/10:11
chris_99aha, i'm thinking of rigging up some steppers to my microscope, possibly just via bands, to see how it goes10:12
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nmz787_i1yeah getting a motor hooked up stumped me when I last really thought of it about a year and a half ago (maybe 2 years)10:15
nmz787_i1though i've been getting more comfortable with CAD and modelling and how to get thinks hooked up10:15
chris_99i'm planning on trying to do some chip decapping/photographing10:15
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ParahSailinthese guys really put a lot of work into obfuscation10:16
nmz787_i1chris_99: cool, I've been wanting to do that with the FIB... the guy who runs it said he'd show me how to do it... he uses boiling nitric acid10:17
nmz787_i1or warm at least10:17
chris_99yeah i think my dads got fuming nitric hopefully for it10:17
chris_99i'd like to try some microprobing, i saw a nice webpage somewhere where they made a 200nm tipped needle10:18
chris_99iirc10:18
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nmz787_i1chris_99: do you have a link for the 200nm microprobes?11:05
nmz787_i1were they cheap? conductive or just pipettes?11:05
chris_99oh they made them, it was just a needle tip i mean11:06
chris_99let me see if i can find it11:06
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nmz787_i1chris_99: wait, have you thought to just use an CO2 NIR sensor?11:07
nmz787_i1Even if it couldn't see the alcohol, it would be implied by CO2 levels right?11:08
nmz787_i1something from these folks maybe? http://www.co2meter.com/collections/co2-sensors11:08
chris_99yeah i've seen people doing that11:08
chris_99but yeah i want actual alcohol11:08
chris_99or SG11:08
nmz787_i1mmm11:09
nmz787_i1did you think about using a breathalyzer?11:09
chris_99yes i spoke to a company11:09
chris_99about that11:09
nmz787_i1just put it past your airlock11:09
chris_99you need a very small volume11:09
chris_99and specific temps11:09
nmz787_i1guess it depends on how volatile the alcohol is at fermentation temps11:10
nmz787_i1volume doesn't seem like it would matter... concentration is what would matter it seems11:10
chris_99breathalyzers are very sensitive11:10
chris_99so volume of it is important11:10
chris_99so you don't max out them11:10
chris_99with too much alcohol11:10
nmz787_i1ummm11:10
nmz787_i1they are just fuel cells though11:10
chris_99yeah but they're aimed at a specific sensitivity range i guess11:11
nmz787_i1so if they waver, it would be because the gas isn't well mixed, i'd think, or temperature variations in the gas11:11
chris_99that's what they mentioned anyhow11:11
nmz787_i1hmm11:11
chris_99about keeping the volume small11:11
nmz787_i1so just use a smaller feed tube?11:11
chris_99it's temp and volume they said to control very importantly11:12
chris_99grrrr11:15
chris_99i can't seem to find that needle11:16
chris_99thing11:16
chris_99i really want to see it as well11:16
chris_99again11:16
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nmz787_i1what's the engineering decision matrix table thing?11:26
nmz787_i1with like pros and cons11:26
nmz787_i1and points11:26
nmz787_i1oh, i guess it's decision matrix method11:27
nmz787_i1.wik decision matrix-method11:27
yoleaux"Invented by Stuart Pugh the decision-matrix method, also Pugh method, Pugh Concept Selection is a quantitative technique used to rank the multi-dimensional options of an option set." — http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decision-matrix_method11:27
chris_99nmz787_i1, https://siliconpr0n.org/wiki/doku.php?id=tutorial:tutorial_on_etching_tungsten_probes :)11:39
kanzurethat guy was in here a while back11:48
kanzurewas azonenberg's roommate11:48
chris_99ah :)11:49
thundara23:34:19 < Suyer> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIYh8R8H2_M11:50
thundaraWoops, ignore^^11:50
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chris_99oh i got a message from that guy nmz787_i1 seems he'll only sell 5+11:55
chris_99am waiting to see how much that would cost11:55
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kanzurewireless communication and privacy http://www.paralelnipolis.cz/pp-congress-2014/WWPP.pdf12:15
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kanzurecpopell7: greetings12:53
cpopell7yo12:53
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justanotheruserhttps://github.com/EnterpriseQualityCoding/FizzBuzzEnterpriseEdition13:25
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kanzure"It's worse than for a million years: it's likely that no significant fossil fuel amounts will ever be formed again on earth. At some point the fungi evolved to eat the dead trees. So they can not become coal, oil or gas anymore.13:41
kanzurehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_returned_on_energy_invested13:43
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nmz787_i1kanzure: so we just need to make sure to kill all the fungi?15:16
nmz787_i1problem solved15:16
kanzureagreed15:17
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nmz787_icongrats nickjohnson! http://hackaday.com/2015/04/10/review-reload-pro/16:06
nmz787_ithat's at least two ppl who hang out in here in the last week or two ;)16:06
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Adlaialternatively, others (mckenna) would have us learn the ways of the fungi, and become a civilization of decomposers rather than harvesters... and others yet would say that the former group are batshit crazy16:16
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* andytoshi clears throat, waves his "vancouver mycology society 2012" card around16:30
andytoshiwho's saying bad things about fungi?16:30
kanzurethey're going to eat all the trees16:31
andytoshifungi are better than trees. that's a scientific fact16:31
andytoshiwhere is that quote about fossil fuels from? i don't see it on the wiki page, that's really interesting..16:32
Adlaiall the *dead* trees16:32
kanzurewas from some random hacker news thread16:36
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maakuI sometimes feel sad for all that fossil evidence being burnt away. Who knows what we could learn from the coal fields.16:54
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nmz787Adlai: no that is also a valid answer, I guess the former is more "if humans can't have the planet, no species can can" attitude17:04
nmz787jrayhawk: is there a psychological term for that attitude ^17:05
nmz787.title http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1702234917:06
yoleaux"If I can't have you, no one can": development of a Relational Entitlement and Proprietariness Scale (REPS). - PubMed - NCBI17:06
nmz787s/partner/fungi/17:06
kanzurerender pages in terminal with colored text https://github.com/bevacqua/hit-that17:16
kanzuremaaku: what sort of fossil evidence are you thinking of?17:16
chris_99nmz787, got a quote 200$/pc for 5pc minimum17:18
chris_99and i got my sensors of that dude today :)17:18
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nmz787ah17:56
nmz787cool!17:56
nmz787.tell chris_99: ah, cool! what are you gonna use to control the CCD?17:57
yoleauxnmz787: What kind of a name is "chris_99:"?!17:57
nmz787.tell chris_99 ah, cool! what are you gonna use to control the CCD?17:57
yoleauxnmz787: I'll pass your message to chris_99.17:57
nmz787.tell yoleaux what kind of name is yoleaux yo?17:58
yoleauxnmz787: Thanks for the message.17:58
nmz787hi yoleaux17:58
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fennhmm.. thinking about getting that jyetech $23 oscilloscope22:42
fennit has stupid mini-USB and 9V power though22:43
fennit's amazing how easy hobby electronics is becoming22:45
fennused to have to buy a surplus boat anchor if you wanted a cheap oscilloscope22:45
nickjohnsonnmz787_i: sweet!22:49
fenn"I have noticed23:01
fennfor a while that each successive book by Vernor Vinge is twice as23:01
fennwell-written as the previous one.  In 2009, I expect him to win the Nobel23:01
fennPrize for Literature.23:01
JayDugger1Heh.23:02
fennthat other vingean singularity23:02
fennnmz787: most fish have a line of electric field sensors (capacitive sensors) along the side of their body23:08
fennit's not radio but it's pretty close23:09
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