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| kanzure | beep | 05:15 |
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| kanzure | tell me things | 06:19 |
| JayDugger | Once upon a time... | 06:23 |
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| kanzure | go on | 06:23 |
| eudoxia | you know, it's a shame wikipedia is centralized | 06:23 |
| eudoxia | we should have some kind of wiki where every node has a full copy | 06:24 |
| kanzure | gmaxwell has written extensively about this topic | 06:24 |
| eudoxia | link pls i've been thinking about this recently | 06:24 |
| kanzure | apparently in 2004 he wrote a bunch of emails about how operating wikipedia otherwise was technically impossible | 06:24 |
| JayDugger | ah, I was kind of hoping someone would play Scheherazade if I primed the pump a little. | 06:24 |
| eudoxia | unrelated: i've been thinking about OCR'ing the XB-70's flight ops manual and making an HTML version because history, archiving, etc. | 06:24 |
| kanzure | looking... | 06:25 |
| kanzure | http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Gmaxwell | 06:25 |
| JayDugger | Really, eudoxia? | 06:25 |
| JayDugger | Please do that. | 06:25 |
| kanzure | "Much of his doubt came from the fact Maxwell was an early supporter of Wikipedia, becoming a contributor to the online encyclopedia in late 2004. He realized during those formative years working on Wikipedia that complete decentralization is hard to pull off." | 06:25 |
| kanzure | "“Traditional consensus systems have needed an admissions control system,” Maxwell said, referring to the fact that Wikipedia needed gateways to provide highly accurate information to visitors." | 06:25 |
| eudoxia | JayDugger: i wrote a script to download the images of each page, since it's only available as a weird embedded PDF thing. now i have the scans sitting here and i could probs OCR them. | 06:26 |
| JayDugger | eudoxia, from http://www.ww2aircraft.net/forum/other-mechanical-systems-tech-/north-american-xb-70-valkyrie-flight-manual-xb-70-escape-system-38335.html | 06:28 |
| eudoxia | actually, i got it from here http://www.avialogs.com/en/aircraft/usa/northamericanaviation/xb-70/to-1b-70xa-1-interim-flight-manual-xb-70a.html | 06:29 |
| JayDugger | Got it. | 06:29 |
| eudoxia | if you use the web inspector you can figure out the format for the URLs | 06:29 |
| eudoxia | something like blahblah/xb70/page_large_[number].jpg | 06:29 |
| eudoxia | there's a download pdf button but you have to register and that's practically immoral | 06:30 |
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| JayDugger | So I see. | 06:31 |
| eudoxia | >Diagrams and illustrations should be in SVG format | 06:36 |
| eudoxia | a kindred spirit | 06:36 |
| eudoxia | tbh most images should be SVG and in the case of charts and plots, the source code that produces them | 06:37 |
| eudoxia | JPG/PNG should be strictly limited to pictures from a camera | 06:37 |
| kanzure | "Has Archiveteam, Internet Archive or anyone else taken a shot at mirroring Sourceforge, including binaries? Since its founding there have been a hell of a lot of small projects hosted there whose sites have gone down since. 430,000 projects have been hosted on SourceForge at some point. At least a few tens of thousands of them represent the only remaining copy of a program needed to read a certain sort of data. Maintaining that ... | 06:38 |
| kanzure | ... capability in the face of a company circling the drain represents an extreme historical utility." | 06:38 |
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| kanzure | "extreme historical utility" is a funny phrase | 06:54 |
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| archels | wow, they bumped maximum earth leakage current for medical equipment (EN60601) from 500 uA to 5 mA in rev 3 | 08:40 |
| kanzure | 08:40 < feep> I fell in love with df when I started on a beach and realized that there were realistically modelled ascii waves hitting the shore and producing ascii foam | 08:40 |
| archels | whose brilliant idea was that? | 08:40 |
| archels | also if someone has a copy of that standard I would be most grateful | 08:42 |
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| archels | *PATIENT AUXILIARY CURRENT: Current flowing in the PATIENT in NORMAL USE between parts of the APPLIED | 08:47 |
| archels | PART and not intended to produce a physiological effect | 08:47 |
| archels | -- | 08:48 |
| archels | "Figure 34 – Maximum allowable current IzL as a function of the inductance Lmax, measured in an inductive circuit with the most readily flammable mixture of ether vapour with oxygen (see Sub-clause 41.3)." | 08:48 |
| kanzure | bitlicense livestream (regulatory stuff) http://livestream.com/FSRoundtable/BITSForumDC | 08:52 |
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| kanzure | .wik hadriacus mons | 09:10 |
| yoleaux | "Hadriacus Mons is an ancient, low-relief volcanic mountain on the planet Mars, located in the southern hemisphere just northeast of the impact basin Hellas and southwest of the similar volcano Tyrrhenus Mons. It has a diameter of 450 kilometres (280 mi). The name was approved in 2007." — http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hadriacus_Mons | 09:10 |
| heath | https://www.ardusat.com/ | 09:16 |
| heath | http://www.orbit1.co/ | 09:19 |
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| kanzure | 07:37 <@gwern> kanzure: as far as I know, there's the usual number of play-money ones, some dumb ones, the overseas bookies, and truthcoin/augur recently got the alpha running on ethereum | 10:25 |
| kanzure | 08:15 <@gwern> kanzure: it depends on what you consider a prediction market. IEM is still running but for very small amounts and very few contracts; iPredict is running with real money in NZ but americans are strictly barred afaik; the big english betting companies have contracts on everything but are not really markets; there's play-money projects like GJP or the hollywood thing | 10:25 |
| kanzure | 08:16 <@gwern> but there is no prediction market accessible everywhere for arbitrary real-money amounts on arbitrary contracts | 10:25 |
| kanzure | 08:17 <@gwern> if they were really successful, there might be assassination market concerns but in practice, it's the gambling, securities, and financials regulations that kill full-strength PMs | 10:25 |
| kanzure | hm okay, still no prediction markets | 10:25 |
| kanzure | andytoshi: truthcoin is ethereum-only? | 10:25 |
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| maaku | kanzure: no | 10:55 |
| maaku | the original whitepaper was a bitcoin-fork sidechain design | 10:55 |
| maaku | it has severe consensus risk issues, which are surmountable by a competent engineer, and adversarial problems that are less clear | 10:56 |
| maaku | basically some idiot engineer somewhere decided to implement truthcoin on top of ethereum and call it augur. there is no dependency on ehtereum per se | 10:58 |
| kanzure | are there any good design proposals floating around? | 10:58 |
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| maaku | not that we could find | 10:59 |
| maaku | we looked at truthcoin because it was one of the only serious sidechain proposals by someone who really understood what sidechains was about | 10:59 |
| maaku | unfortunately he didn't really understand the difficulties of building consensus systems or adversarial models | 11:00 |
| maaku | truthcoin kinda sorta works if you assume people are honest, and there are hand wavy arguments that people would be incentivised to be honest | 11:00 |
| maaku | but it's not very convincing | 11:00 |
| maaku | and the block validation logic involves floating point PCA | 11:01 |
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| andytoshi | fwiw i'm more optimistic about truthcoin than maaku is | 11:31 |
| andytoshi | but .. i (a) have seen more recent design documents, (b) haven't looked as closely | 11:31 |
| andytoshi | so weight those two things how you will :) | 11:31 |
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| jrayhawk | rusty russel is at blockstream, too? some sort of kernel programmer conspiracy | 15:57 |
| kanzure | jgarzik isn't | 16:03 |
| kanzure | this seems like an okay way to learn german https://www.youtube.com/user/Geilkind/playlists | 16:11 |
| kanzure | (let's plays) | 16:11 |
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| kanzure | https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1836537355/counter-culture-labs-your-biohacking-and-citizen-s | 17:54 |
| kanzure | it's really too bad that nobody has money | 17:54 |
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| kanzure | you guys are boring | 19:24 |
| redlegion | Looks like Hector Monsegur is back on Twitter | 19:34 |
| redlegion | He's making everyone foam at the mouth | 19:34 |
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| heath | https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1836537355/counter-culture-labs-your-biohacking-and-citizen-s | 19:36 |
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| heath | damn, kanzure you're too quick | 19:38 |
| heath | so much for /lastlog http | 19:38 |
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| maaku | jrayhawk: we're always open to hiring kernel programmers | 20:03 |
| maaku | is there anyone here working on bio automation? | 20:09 |
| kanzure | yes... a bunch of peeps. | 20:11 |
| maaku | figured there would be ;) | 20:11 |
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| maaku | but i mean transcriptic-like automation? | 20:13 |
| maaku | maybe not cloud services, but a makerbot-for-bio? | 20:13 |
| kanzure | opentrons | 20:14 |
| maaku | I've been listening to Daniel Reda's SU talk as well as a bunch of synthetic bio lectures, and have to admit i think i discounted the near-term possibilities of biohacking too much | 20:15 |
| kanzure | indeed | 20:16 |
| kanzure | here are some diybio-related transcripts i have taken: | 20:16 |
| kanzure | http://diyhpl.us/wiki/transcripts/fbi-diybio-2011/ | 20:16 |
| kanzure | http://diyhpl.us/wiki/transcripts/fbi-diybio-2012/ | 20:16 |
| kanzure | http://diyhpl.us/wiki/transcripts/open-science-summit-2010/ | 20:17 |
| kanzure | uh, let's see.. | 20:17 |
| kanzure | http://diyhpl.us/wiki/diybio/faq/ | 20:17 |
| kanzure | here's a bunch of biohacking projects http://diyhpl.us/wiki/dna/projects/ | 20:18 |
| kanzure | here's some stuff we should fix in our genome http://diyhpl.us/wiki/genetic-modifications/ | 20:18 |
| kanzure | also you should subscribe to https://groups.google.com/group/diybio | 20:19 |
| maaku | thanks that's quite a bit of reading to do | 20:23 |
| maaku | (a good thing) | 20:23 |
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| maaku | hrm i wonder if there is a good robot arm for moving trays around | 20:28 |
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| neals | hey kanzure: I saw a jeep in south austin with the plates "BIOHACK" lol | 20:44 |
| maaku | how's the precision on opentrons? | 20:45 |
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| kanzure | dunno... but get some mesa controllers or something, i wouldn't worry about precision | 21:21 |
| kanzure | maaku: are you in south austin at the moment? | 21:22 |
| maaku | san jose | 21:22 |
| kanzure | whoops i mean neals | 21:23 |
| * kanzure sleeps | 21:23 | |
| neals | kanzure: yup | 21:24 |
| neals | speaking of which, I've been meaning to ask -- besides the atxhs, are there any good maker groups in austin? | 21:27 |
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| andytoshi | neals: not that i'm aware of fwiw (i'm also in austin) | 22:12 |
| andytoshi | there is a robotics/automation society at UTexas but they are EE undergrads and seem not to have much of any outside connections | 22:12 |
| neals | Darn | 22:13 |
| neals | The atxhs is so far north | 22:13 |
| neals | maybe it's time to do a monthly maker meetup :) | 22:14 |
| andytoshi | you mean we'd go up north every month? or start our own maker group? | 22:16 |
| andytoshi | i have to take two buses to get to atxhs, i'm not doing that :) | 22:16 |
| neals | make our own | 22:17 |
| neals | yeah... it' | 22:18 |
| neals | s a 20 minute drive on 35 if there's no traffic | 22:18 |
| andytoshi | "if there's no traffic on 35 then X" is true for all X ;) | 22:19 |
| neals | haha exactly | 22:19 |
| neals | i'm gonna start looking around for spaces to host a meetup in central austin | 22:23 |
| neals | do you happen to have any suggestions? | 22:23 |
| neals | thinking maybe vuka on s. 1st, but that might be pricey | 22:24 |
| andytoshi | that is probably really pricey | 22:27 |
| andytoshi | tho i think, everywhere in central austin is gonna be pricey .. east of 35 might be something | 22:28 |
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