2015-11-09.log

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-!- Topic for ##hplusroadmap: biohacking, nootropics, transhumanism, open hardware | sponsored by lobsters everywhere, banned by the Federal Death Administration (5 times) | this channel is LOGGED: http://gnusha.org/logs | http://diyhpl.us/wiki | "ray kurzweil is a pessimist" - george church03:41
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jrayhawkdid we miss anything important03:44
kanzureOH GOD WE MISSED SOMETHING03:44
kanzureall is lost03:45
jrayhawknatasha vita-more could've announced having grown a genetically engineered beard to rival aubrey's03:53
jrayhawkYOU NEVER KNOW03:53
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kanzure.wik PDF/A05:49
yoleaux"PDF/A is an ISO-standardized version of the Portable Document Format (PDF) specialized for the digital preservation of electronic documents." — https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PDF/A05:49
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kanzurehttp://harryrschwartz.com/2015/11/08/cad-paper-reading-group-notes.html07:48
kanzureer i think some of my messages didn't get through very well: "The big priority shouldn’t be code quality, but testing"07:49
kanzurefunny how things get inverted by listeners07:49
kanzuremy actual statement was "should focus on basic code quality and testing, rather than UI, which while important, will always suffer from poor kernel implementation"07:50
kanzure"[kaj sotala] is currently involved in building a new self-development and peer-oriented life coaching community founded on scientifically vetted principles."07:54
kanzurefrom http://biohackersummit.com/2015-event/speakers/07:54
poppingtonicLooks interesting.08:04
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cluckjfinland tho10:08
cluckjso far away10:08
cluckjand very transhumanist10:09
kanzurevarious strange little economic arguments about anti-rent/anti-property https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1053400010:18
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cluckjugh, writing introductions is terrible13:07
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cluckjthey are so self-indulgent13:07
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cluckjI'm sifting through emails from 2009 to figure out what the hell got me into this13:46
cluckj@_@13:47
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cluckjI found the first time kanzure and I spoke with each other tho13:47
cluckjI still have no idea when DIY bio first got on my radar13:50
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chris_99nmz787_i, be thee about?13:51
TMAchris_99: it's "art thou around?" ["be" is subjunctive; even as subjunctive the second person singular is "beest" as in "if thou beest not immortal"; "thee" on the other hand is the oblique case. like me/him/her/us/them/whom/...]13:57
chris_99heh13:58
cluckjthine pedantery!13:58
TMAoh sorry about that, 'tis just my pet peeve speaking13:59
cluckjyour pet peeve is archaic grammar?13:59
TMAaye, archaic grammar, wrongfully applied, makes me itchy to correct the offender14:02
cluckjI wish my pet peeves were so specific14:03
chris_99haha14:03
chris_99TMA, can you read ye olde english then?14:03
TMAmodern grammar, however wrong, does not provoke the same reaction :)14:03
cluckjlets see if eye can test you're will power14:04
chris_99haha14:04
cluckjoh god that's making me a bit nauseous14:05
TMAchris_99: this is just the pre-modern (Shakespeare and several years older writers) the really old English (say Chaucer and older) is beyond my grasp14:05
chris_99gotcha14:06
chris_99i like the thing were at least with english words, you can jumble the letters up in a certain way, they're still readable14:06
TMAcluckj: you have punished yourself :)14:06
chris_99http://www.douglastwitchell.com/scrambled_words.php if anyone is interested14:07
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kanzurecluckj: "Cluck is a anthropology activist who feeds on the hopes and dreams of others to further his own goals of accurate science history. He shouldn't be trusted under any circumstances. Also, in 2015 he successfully defended."14:08
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cluckjhahaha14:13
cluckjyour official note about me in your people file?14:13
kanzure"He is currently located in Subject Habitat Y-73. Feed daily."14:13
kanzureyes.14:13
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cluckjI appreciate the care note14:17
cluckjI do need to be fed, frequently14:17
kanzure"Withhold sugar when uncooperative."14:18
cluckjmy notes are much less interesting14:34
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kanzurecluckj: you need to embellish14:36
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redlegionit being a photoshop plugin, you'd think the ugly fucker holding the blue gear might be a little "improved"15:57
redlegionguess not15:57
redlegionbahaha, sorry, wrong channel15:58
redlegionfour hours of sleep isn't conducive to weechat's pane feature15:59
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nmz787_i.tell chris_99  -- sorry I was about, but didn't check this window...16:17
yoleauxnmz787_i: I'll pass your message to chris_99.16:17
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nmz787_i.py print 'it works again'17:14
yoleaux<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html;charset=utf-8"><title>404 Not Found</title></head><body text=#000000 bgcolor=#ffffff><h1>Error: Not Found</h1><h2>The requested URL <code>/py/print%20&#39;it%20works%20again&#39;</code> was not found on this server.</h2><h2></h2></body></html>17:14
nmz787_iguess not17:15
nmz787_iwas thinking of coming up with a string that would act as a grep-the-logs function17:15
nmz787_ihttp://news.sciencemag.org/scientific-community/2015/11/wanna-bet-gambling-could-reveal-which-scientific-studies-are-worth17:28
nmz787_i.title17:28
yoleauxWanna bet? Gambling could reveal which scientific studies are worth their salt | Science/AAAS | News17:28
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kanzure.title https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RguZ0_nmSPw17:56
yoleauxGregory Maxwell-DevCore Draper University 2015 - YouTube17:56
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cluckjkanzure, holy shit; you posted the marcus wohlsen story to /. that got me interested in DIYbio18:14
kanzureyeah i get around i guess18:14
cluckjthat was back in 200818:15
cluckjthat's kinda crazy, I've never looked back at that post until just now18:17
kanzurewe probably met each other in slashdot comments too, that tends to happen to people that know me18:17
cluckjI'm strictly a lurker there18:18
kanzurehttp://slashdot.org/~the_kanzure18:18
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cluckjthe internet is a pretty small place I guess18:21
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kanzurei just make it seem that way18:22
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abetuskhttps://www.facebook.com/GrindhouseWetware/posts/92985984376397018:35
kanzure.title18:37
yoleauxWe're proud to formally introduce... - Grindhouse Wetware | Facebook18:37
kanzurewell?18:37
abetusk"We're proud to formally introduce Northstar Version 1, a magnet activated, LED-equipped silicone device from Grindhouse Wetware, implanted today "18:38
kanzurethync also released a thing today. didn't look though.18:38
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Aurelius_Homewhat the fuck use is it? is it just an LED?18:47
kanzurehah18:57
Aurelius_HomeI mean shit18:57
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kanzuresnarf didn't realize i was mentioned by name on http://brlcad.org/wiki/User:Phoenix/GSoc2013/Reports20:15
kanzuresent reply to "cad club" person and cc'd for safekeeping to https://groups.google.com/d/msg/openmanufacturing/SwBZlOPIA2E/K4srEQIbAAAJ20:16
kanzure"I've used solvespace to make some complex parametric shapes and talked with the main developer a bit. It is not going to be able to do the fillets between compound surfaces from that developer.  He is also looking for a CAD engine for that purpose.  So, I think it is left to verbnurbs or brlcad."20:41
kanzurewelp okay then....20:42
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abetuskWhat little I've used of CGAL, I've hated it21:16
kanzurei too was not impressed when i looked21:17
kanzurea lot of it seemed to be "offload to gpu" and "various poor tessellation algorithms for intersection"21:17
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abetuskI was using it for boolean operations on 2d geometry.  I found the library itself pretty opaque and template heavy.  I might have been using it 'wrong' (in the sense of asking for too much precision or exact arithematic?) but switching to clipperlib made it about 400x faster21:19
abetuskI think it's focus is on correctness more than anything else21:19
kanzureopenscad at some point was exclusively using cgal21:19
kanzureso maybe that's still the case21:19
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abetuskdoes brlcad use some unerlying 3d library for it's boolean operations (or whatever else)?21:23
kanzureyes, brlcad implements its own cad primitives21:23
kanzurethere are also python bindings to some of this, python-brlcad or nmz787's version of python-brlcad that i can never remember the name of.. the one that generates tcl..21:24
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nmz787_iabetusk: kanzure:  https://github.com/nmz787/python-brlcad-tcl/22:34
nmz787_ii actually need to push some work to that22:34
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fenn"no one’s tackled the problem of URL lengthening… until now! Kilobytely is a free, stateless service that will transform a short, regular address into a grotesque and inscrutable leviathan of a URL." :D22:57
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fenn"my plan is to make something like xpather (from firefox) that allows a user to select elements on a page and figure out the xpath to retrieve the data. This can be dumped into a standard scraper definition file format or something, and then uzbl only has to pop up whenever some idiot changes a web page."23:05
fennhey that sounds pretty similar to my ontological assimilator idea (which was chronologically later so i guess kanzure gets props for having the idea first)23:06
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