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| FourFire | kanzure, what is the maximum Transactions per second of the current implimentation of the bitcoin network, what is the limiting factor, and how far away is a technical increase/fix ? | 01:00 |
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| nmz787 | 6 | 01:16 |
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| nmz787 | howdy irseeyou | 01:17 |
| irseeyou | nmz787: Do much with Chem at all? | 01:17 |
| nmz787 | day to day, not much, but in general studying and goals, yes | 01:18 |
| nmz787 | day to day I program stuff in Python about electrical engineering | 01:18 |
| nmz787 | but at night, I play with making micro and nanofluidics | 01:18 |
| nmz787 | with aim to assemble DNA | 01:19 |
| irseeyou | Can you do a SEM image through glass, or is that not possible? | 01:19 |
| nmz787 | nah, it's all surface | 01:20 |
| irseeyou | I was going to say it would be neat to take an image of nanocopper during catalysis of some sort | 01:20 |
| nmz787 | you pull a vacuum between the emitting electrode and the sample is your opposite electrode.. and you sort of have a not-so-sparky lightning bolt | 01:20 |
| nmz787 | since there is no ionization of gas | 01:20 |
| nmz787 | well there is eSEM | 01:21 |
| nmz787 | which is low-vacuum | 01:21 |
| nmz787 | and they can watch some chemistry happen as long as it doesn't boil off into the beam chamber (much) | 01:21 |
| irseeyou | hmm thats really cool. | 01:21 |
| nmz787 | irseeyou: http://www.2spi.com/item/12130-ab/ | 01:22 |
| nmz787 | .title | 01:22 |
| yoleaux | Wet Cell II Liquid Probe System for SEM/EDS,EPMA and TOF-SIMS : 12130-AB : SPI Supplies | 01:22 |
| irseeyou | Everything fun is so expensive :D | 01:23 |
| nmz787 | when the electron beam hits, they absorb/bounce off/re-emit... and you can get energy-loss spectra... also photons emit because electrons are crashing through orbitals | 01:23 |
| nmz787 | so you can get xray spectra | 01:24 |
| nmz787 | irseeyou: well, engineering it all yourself costs lifetimes | 01:24 |
| nmz787 | but you can definitely pick and choose your battles | 01:25 |
| nmz787 | or get hired by someone who can afford all these nice things ;) | 01:25 |
| nmz787 | the hackerspaces can be very powerful allies | 01:26 |
| irseeyou | I tried to get in at a SEM manf. they wanted a QA guy | 01:26 |
| nmz787 | NION or something? | 01:26 |
| nmz787 | (just based on the IRC joining server name thing, it seems you're in washington) | 01:27 |
| irseeyou | yep yep nion | 01:28 |
| irseeyou | I managed to score a contact at a medical place instead though but that ended just recently | 01:28 |
| irseeyou | contract* | 01:29 |
| nmz787 | are in you college? | 01:30 |
| irseeyou | nmz787: nah | 01:30 |
| nmz787 | was gonna say you should have good resources there | 01:31 |
| irseeyou | I'm pretty much just going to try to start my own business I have some neat ideas of stuff to do with a tormach | 01:31 |
| nmz787 | with science stuff? | 01:32 |
| nmz787 | like building equipment? | 01:32 |
| irseeyou | Micro pumps, water blocks, engines, hydraulic rams, reaction blocks, and custom scientific stuff | 01:32 |
| nmz787 | nice | 01:32 |
| irseeyou | I can sell a lot of the expensive stuff for far cheaper than is available online making it available to hobbyists and researchers | 01:33 |
| nmz787 | are you a chemE already then? | 01:33 |
| irseeyou | Negative | 01:33 |
| nmz787 | ever work with super/sub critical CO2? | 01:33 |
| irseeyou | I have a mix of education MechE/ChemE/and EE | 01:33 |
| irseeyou | I have not..very interesting stuff though | 01:33 |
| nmz787 | yeah for sure | 01:33 |
| irseeyou | I heard its being used to extract pot here lately | 01:33 |
| nmz787 | are you a welder? | 01:33 |
| nmz787 | yeah | 01:34 |
| nmz787 | no butane/petroleum remnant | 01:34 |
| nmz787 | but that is it's utility in many areas | 01:34 |
| nmz787 | including dry cleaning clothes | 01:34 |
| irseeyou | nmz787: I can stick weld, better at MIG...and I thought about getting a TIG so I can make a pressure swing adsorption system | 01:34 |
| nmz787 | and also critical-point drying of biological specimens for electron microscopy... and for making aerogel | 01:35 |
| irseeyou | I saw Ben's aerogel experiment...thats on my bucket list to make | 01:35 |
| nmz787 | I think stainless is needed/preferred for most vacuum systems | 01:35 |
| nmz787 | because it doesn't oxidize and rust, which adsorbs moisture, which looks like a virtual leak (the moisture takes a while to boil off in vacuum) | 01:35 |
| nmz787 | as in every time you open and close the chamber | 01:36 |
| irseeyou | I have some vacuum stuff but ive hardly used it | 01:36 |
| irseeyou | I wanted to try thermal vapor depostition | 01:36 |
| nmz787 | i'm trying to do some lithography lately using this mini blue laser CNC | 01:37 |
| nmz787 | but am really slow | 01:37 |
| irseeyou | nmz787: chemical or laser lithography stuff? | 01:37 |
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| nmz787 | irseeyou: coating a glass slide with photoresist, activating with a laser CNC | 01:38 |
| irseeyou | oh cool! | 01:38 |
| nmz787 | then you still have to develop it afterward to finalize | 01:38 |
| irseeyou | What kinda size can you get with that? | 01:38 |
| nmz787 | I bet around 100 microns to start, maybe better but probably not much since I don't have a good focusing mechanism | 01:39 |
| nmz787 | the goal is to prove the concept, then move to a bluray writer laser head | 01:39 |
| nmz787 | which should get sub-micron | 01:39 |
| irseeyou | very impressive | 01:40 |
| nmz787 | and with defocus should also be able to achieve larger feature sizes | 01:40 |
| irseeyou | Whats your goal for lithography? | 01:40 |
| nmz787 | to make micro reactors | 01:40 |
| irseeyou | no freakin way | 01:40 |
| nmz787 | so called microfluidics | 01:40 |
| irseeyou | I was reading about micro reactors a few months ago | 01:41 |
| irseeyou | I love how they scale...the potential to ship out something to a 3rd world country to make their own fertizers from thin air is quite neat | 01:41 |
| irseeyou | They scale really good | 01:41 |
| nmz787 | yeah there are all sorts of things you can do | 01:42 |
| nmz787 | especially with advanced materials | 01:42 |
| nmz787 | or really fine engineering/machining | 01:42 |
| nmz787 | I also sometimes have access to a Focused Ion Beam | 01:43 |
| nmz787 | .wik focused ion beam | 01:43 |
| yoleaux | "Focused ion beam, also known as FIB, is a technique used particularly in the semiconductor industry, materials science and increasingly in the biological field for site-specific analysis, deposition, and ablation of materials. A FIB setup is a scientific instrument that resembles a scanning electron microscope (SEM)." — https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Focused_ion_beam | 01:43 |
| irseeyou | nmz787: You're in a university I take it? | 01:43 |
| nmz787 | nah I am a software engineer these days | 01:44 |
| nmz787 | I went to school for biotechnology but leaned more toward technology | 01:44 |
| irseeyou | good area for biotech too | 01:44 |
| irseeyou | lots of companies up here | 01:44 |
| nmz787 | the semiconductor stuff is generally more interesting to me actually | 01:45 |
| nmz787 | just because of, like you said, scaling | 01:45 |
| nmz787 | most biotech people are not that well equipped to talk to such kinds of engineers | 01:46 |
| irseeyou | You know Jeri Ellesworth right? | 01:46 |
| nmz787 | just from online | 01:46 |
| nmz787 | I mean I've seen her stuff | 01:46 |
| irseeyou | yeah you heard her story about designing her first IC at the company? lol she had no idea what she was doing and almost got sued for it | 01:46 |
| nmz787 | is that the one she went on to do a kickstarter for? | 01:47 |
| irseeyou | Well...she had every idea of what she was doing...just no experience | 01:47 |
| nmz787 | or was that way before that ? | 01:47 |
| irseeyou | nmz787: No she made this gaming thing...and commited to have the IC fab'd and hoped and prayed it would work lol | 01:47 |
| irseeyou | she tells the story in one of her vids its really funny and inspiring | 01:48 |
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| nmz787 | oh, idk, not familiar with that | 01:49 |
| nmz787 | I remember her kickstarter, and her etching something with HydroFluoric acid in her house | 01:49 |
| irseeyou | What are your 2016 goals for what you're up to? | 01:49 |
| irseeyou | Working on any IC's or something? | 01:49 |
| nmz787 | hmm | 01:50 |
| nmz787 | well | 01:50 |
| nmz787 | I haven't really thought of chunking it out like that | 01:50 |
| nmz787 | but now that you mention it | 01:50 |
| nmz787 | I guess I want to actually make a microfluidic device this year, some how, that does at least something stupid | 01:50 |
| irseeyou | If you think I can be of any help let me know. I'm pretty good at CAD/Autodesk Inventor. I can whip you up schematics or something if it helps. | 01:51 |
| irseeyou | I'd love to take part in a microreactor | 01:52 |
| nmz787 | would you like to work on that hackaday project I linked to? | 01:53 |
| nmz787 | I could send you a board at least, and maybe some chips | 01:53 |
| nmz787 | the files are done in kicad | 01:53 |
| irseeyou | What in particular is there you need done for that guy? | 01:53 |
| nmz787 | just debugged electrically I think, I messed up a footprint for an LDO (dumb mistake) and then realized that part is obsolete | 01:54 |
| nmz787 | I never wrote the ADC part of the firmware | 01:54 |
| irseeyou | I don't think I'd be much help on that to be honest | 01:54 |
| nmz787 | I only ask since you mentioned spectrometers before | 01:55 |
| nmz787 | have you ever played with BRLCAD? | 01:55 |
| irseeyou | Never heard of it /google | 01:55 |
| irseeyou | hmm i've never had good luck with the open source cad stuff | 01:56 |
| nmz787 | well it was mainly developed by the military | 01:56 |
| nmz787 | so it is bullet-tested, you might say | 01:56 |
| nmz787 | this is what I've found to be my most comfortable way of interacting with the tool https://github.com/nmz787/python-brlcad-tcl/tree/master/examples | 01:57 |
| irseeyou | nmz787: https://i.imgur.com/GRCdHjr.png - Roots pump I built | 01:57 |
| nmz787 | specifically this one is a pretty decent example https://github.com/nmz787/python-brlcad-tcl/blob/master/examples/motor_28BYJ_48__example.py | 01:57 |
| nmz787 | output here https://github.com/nmz787/python-brlcad-tcl/blob/master/examples/output/motor_28BYJ_48__example.stl | 01:58 |
| nmz787 | (one form of its output) | 01:58 |
| nmz787 | irseeyou: pump looks nice | 01:59 |
| nmz787 | now do you think you can build it? | 02:00 |
| irseeyou | nmz787: as in machine it? | 02:00 |
| nmz787 | yeah | 02:00 |
| nmz787 | is it a fluid or gas or vacuum pump? | 02:00 |
| irseeyou | yeah goes straight to G-Code | 02:00 |
| irseeyou | that one will just be a fluid pump | 02:00 |
| nmz787 | how about tolerances? | 02:01 |
| irseeyou | Tormach is good to 0.0005" IIRC | 02:01 |
| nmz787 | huh, sounds pretty good | 02:02 |
| nmz787 | let me know when you're running jobs ;) | 02:02 |
| nmz787 | all these little things need supported by larger things usually | 02:03 |
| irseeyou | It's going to be a while before I can get a tormach in, but I hope to have one this year | 02:03 |
| nmz787 | well I need to go sleep now | 02:03 |
| irseeyou | Have a good one. I'll catch you on here again sometime. | 02:04 |
| nmz787 | yeah, stick around... lots of people in here with usually something good to contribute | 02:04 |
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| archels_ | .title http://murgen.echopen.org/ | 04:11 |
| yoleaux | the Murgen project – A small electronic fork from echOpen | 04:11 |
| archels_ | kanzure: ^ | 04:11 |
| chris_99 | there doesn't seem to be any info on what transducer they're using etc.? | 04:14 |
| archels_ | yeah, wasn't aware there were other open hardware efforts underway to get this done though | 04:16 |
| archels_ | don't think these came up before here, anyway | 04:16 |
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| chris_99 | there is quite a lot of stuff on what it's forked from though - http://echopen.org/index.php?title=Category:Transducer | 04:18 |
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| streety | did you see the article on super resolution ultrasound? | 05:08 |
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| chris_99 | https://github.com/echopen/hardware/tree/master/electronics/murgen%201.0%20beta has some more info too. The microchip IC they're using looks really interesting - HV7360 | 05:10 |
| chris_99 | what's that streety? | 05:10 |
| streety | http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v527/n7579/full/nature16066.html | 05:12 |
| streety | using microbubbles to image at a resolution higher than the ultrasound wavelength | 05:13 |
| chris_99 | interesting! | 05:13 |
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| atomical | | | 06:22 |
| atomical | oh he left | 06:22 |
| atomical | FUUUU | 06:22 |
| atomical | i had something unimportant to say to him | 06:22 |
| archels_ | .tell atomical greetings | 06:22 |
| yoleaux | archels_: I'll pass your message to atomical. | 06:22 |
| archels_ | now say something | 06:22 |
| atomical | hi | 06:22 |
| yoleaux | 14:22Z <archels_> atomical: greetings | 06:22 |
| atomical | .tell |node hey, what's up? | 06:23 |
| yoleaux | atomical: I'll pass your message to |node. | 06:23 |
| atomical | .tell kanzure hi | 06:23 |
| yoleaux | atomical: I'll pass your message to kanzure. | 06:23 |
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| kanzure | FourFire: https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2015-December/011865.html | 06:40 |
| yoleaux | 14:23Z <atomical> kanzure: hi | 06:40 |
| kanzure | bot abuse is a felony | 06:42 |
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| kanzure | aaaaaaaaaaaa | 07:11 |
| JayDugger | Evocative, if vague. | 07:12 |
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| atomical | kanzure: are you willing to amend the charge to a petty offense? | 07:29 |
| atomical | i just had that happen with a speeding ticket | 07:29 |
| kanzure | is this bribery? | 07:29 |
| atomical | just the way the world works | 07:31 |
| atomical | |node: hey buddy | 07:32 |
| |node | hi | 07:33 |
| yoleaux | 14:23Z <atomical> |node: hey, what's up? | 07:33 |
| kanzure | http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/physics/astrophysics/Starivore%20extraterrestrials%20-%20Interacting%20binary%20stars%20as%20macroscopic%20metabolic%20systems%20-%20Clement%20Vidal.pdf | 07:35 |
| kanzure | http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/space/Image%20restoration%20from%20a%20sequence%20of%20random%20masks.pdf | 07:35 |
| kanzure | http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/space/Orbiting%20rainbows%20-%20optical%20manipulation%20of%20aerosols%20and%20the%20beginnings%20of%20future%20space%20construction%20-%20NASA.pdf | 07:35 |
| kanzure | http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/neuro/Soft%20materials%20in%20neuroengineering%20for%20hard%20problems%20in%20neuroscience%20-%202015.pdf | 07:36 |
| kanzure | http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/neuro/Millisecond-timescale,%20genetically%20targeted%20optical%20control%20of%20neural%20activity%20-%20Boyden.pdf | 07:36 |
| kanzure | http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/neuro/DNA%20methylation%20in%20memory%20formation%20-%20emerging%20insights%20-%202015.pdf | 07:36 |
| kanzure | http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/neuro/Designing%20scalable%20biological%20interfaces%20-%20Marblestone.pdf | 07:36 |
| kanzure | ^things that have been on my mind | 07:36 |
| JayDugger | RIT. Makes sense. | 07:39 |
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| nmz787_i1 | JayDugger: what about Rochester Institute of Technology (RIT)? | 12:30 |
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| drethelin | how's the biotech guys | 14:03 |
| kanzure | apparently human bodies require food and i am going to get lunch so there's that | 14:06 |
| archels_ | just drink your Soylent and continue working | 14:08 |
| drethelin | just put soylent in an IV and save even more time | 14:09 |
| kanzure | you mean i'm not supposed to put anabolic steroid injections through my forehead veins? | 14:12 |
| Diablo-D3 | wait | 14:17 |
| Diablo-D3 | what | 14:17 |
| kanzure | hacker steroids | 14:20 |
| juri_ | meth. just use meth. | 14:21 |
| AdrianG | meth. | 14:26 |
| AdrianG | +1 | 14:26 |
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| cpopell6 | I know someone who did meth when he was without adderall for a few months | 14:58 |
| Diablo-D3 | honestly | 14:59 |
| Diablo-D3 | Im not even sure if that was a bad idea | 14:59 |
| cpopell6 | well, he's pretty educated on biochemistry as far as fitness and such goes | 15:00 |
| cpopell6 | and self experiments a shit ton | 15:00 |
| AdrianG | was it gwern | 15:00 |
| cpopell6 | no | 15:00 |
| cpopell6 | https://www.reddit.com/r/steroids/comments/3zm37j/an_answer_to_could_methcokeetc_be_used_as_a/ and https://www.reddit.com/r/steroids/comments/3zm37j/an_answer_to_could_methcokeetc_be_used_as_a/, he mentions transhumanism in the second bit | 15:01 |
| Diablo-D3 | you know | 15:02 |
| Diablo-D3 | I was going to say, oh, hey, theres an r/steroids | 15:02 |
| Diablo-D3 | but its reddit | 15:02 |
| Diablo-D3 | theres an /r/everything | 15:02 |
| Diablo-D3 | literally and figuratively | 15:03 |
| cpopell6 | there's a bunch of private steroid forums where they do, as far as I can tell, citizen science | 15:03 |
| cpopell6 | I don't do roids so I've never been invited | 15:03 |
| Diablo-D3 | I dunno | 15:04 |
| Diablo-D3 | Im considering it | 15:04 |
| cpopell6 | tbh kanzure would probably get along with this guy | 15:04 |
| Diablo-D3 | its like "oh your dick might shrink" | 15:04 |
| Diablo-D3 | my dicks big enough that that maaay be a point in my favor. | 15:05 |
| cpopell6 | said person is experimenting with hormones, I think, for dick growth | 15:05 |
| cpopell6 | also | 15:07 |
| cpopell6 | https://www.reddit.com/r/researchchemicals/comments/3iin1n/4fa_made_me_ask_my_fiancee_to_shit_on_my_chest/ | 15:07 |
| abetusk | top shelf conversation folks | 15:08 |
| cpopell6 | I mean, he's discussing self experimentation with research chemicals. He just happens to be a hedonist. | 15:08 |
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| heath | haven't watched it yet https://vimeo.com/145702525 Super Science Friends - Episode 1: The Phantom Premise | 16:14 |
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| kanzure | where did parahsailin go? | 20:23 |
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| justanotheruser | maybe they're meeting up with tronaldrump | 21:30 |
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| kanzure | but this one wasn't imaginary | 22:48 |
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| fenn | sucked into the google machine | 22:52 |
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