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| kanzure | bloop | 04:40 |
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| eudoxia | hello kanzure | 04:43 |
| eudoxia | you got any inside info on minsky's cryopreservation | 04:43 |
| kanzure | he gave davidad all his data | 04:44 |
| eudoxia | good | 04:45 |
| eudoxia | i guess | 04:45 |
| kanzure | eudoxia: show me things | 04:54 |
| eudoxia | i reached 200 twitter followers, wooho | 04:55 |
| eudoxia | woohoo* | 04:55 |
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| pompolic | what's your twitter | 05:22 |
| eudoxia | pompolic: https://twitter.com/eudxa | 05:24 |
| pompolic | thanks | 05:26 |
| pompolic | oh, i'm already following you | 05:28 |
| eudoxia | oh lmao | 05:29 |
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| archels_ | .title | 08:24 |
| yoleaux | Privilege Escalation (SYSTEM) via Dolby’s DAX2_API Service (Windows 10) – ((( obscure channel ))) | 08:24 |
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| chris_99 | nmz787_i1, i found a 1000fps camera on fleabay only does around 200x200 pixels or something at that res though | 09:16 |
| yoleaux | 00:46Z <nmz787_i> chris_99: I have a DNA sequencing gel electrphoresis power supply (can supply a few kilovolts for running really long sequencing gels)... my thought is that it could be adapted to run microcapillary gels for sequencing, and sequencing has been on my list of things to do for microfluidics | 09:16 |
| chris_99 | ah cool, i have an electrophoresis psu, mine is max 500V | 09:16 |
| chris_99 | though | 09:16 |
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| JayDugger | manga | 10:31 |
| JayDugger | Dammit. Should've gone into the find dialog. Sorry. | 10:32 |
| JayDugger | Never midn. | 10:32 |
| JayDugger | What manga? | 10:32 |
| nmz787_i1 | some japanese comic format | 10:35 |
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| JayDugger | <counts to ten by ones from zero> | 10:36 |
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| kanzure | zeno says you'll never get there | 10:37 |
| JayDugger | i can out-drink a dead Greek, even while holding my temper after an undeserved smart-ass answer. | 10:37 |
| JayDugger | Please tell me more about "(08:24:15 PM) lkjhfr: kanzure: so... do you have a person to draw the manga?" | 10:38 |
| kanzure | hplusroadmap manga-ization | 10:38 |
| kanzure | so far just a fanciful thought, no details exist | 10:39 |
| nmz787_i1 | I boiled a CPU with some motherboard attached (all soldered) in nitric acid last night.. had to change it 4 times to get it all dissolved and leave just the bare die | 10:39 |
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| JayDugger | Oh, thank goodness. I just had the horrible thought it might have been a manga version of that terrible fanfic. | 10:39 |
| kanzure | to my knowledge, eudoxia has yet to start writing hplusroadmap fanfic | 10:40 |
| JayDugger | That would be fine. I meant that other one that's a pastiche of a pastiche of Tom Brown's School Days. | 10:42 |
| JayDugger | Junji Ito or Masamune Shirow, so long as its a fancy. Neither one of them seems to being doing much these days. | 10:42 |
| nmz787_i1 | chris_99: cool, you gonna buy it? not gonna try using your global shutter cam first? | 10:43 |
| chris_99 | nmz787_i1, i don't have the cash alas atm | 10:43 |
| nmz787_i1 | I think I used a good 20 or 30 bux worth of nitric... so I guess decapping work is at least that expensive (not to mention any further investigation) | 10:43 |
| chris_99 | do you have a metallurgical microscope to image it? | 10:44 |
| nmz787_i1 | my buddy said in his experience actually decapping ICs (not including PCB like I had) will only take one pass of boiling nitric | 10:44 |
| AdrianG | you boiled it fuming nitric acid..? | 10:45 |
| JayDugger | Or Tsutomu Nihei. | 10:45 |
| nmz787_i1 | chris_99: nah, but my friend has a nice scope with nomarsky interference | 10:45 |
| AdrianG | really | 10:45 |
| AdrianG | are you sure it wasnt just fuming | 10:45 |
| nmz787_i1 | chris_99: and I wanna throw it in the FIB | 10:45 |
| nmz787_i1 | AdrianG: it was on a hot plate | 10:45 |
| chris_99 | oh cool :) | 10:45 |
| AdrianG | nmz787_i1: molarity? | 10:45 |
| nmz787_i1 | AdrianG: my friend said the concentration was likely in the 90s to begin | 10:46 |
| AdrianG | well, i hope you have an exhaust hood | 10:46 |
| chris_99 | what respirator where you using, i keep looking at them, i've been told the filters will let in a small % of nitric in, so supplied air is better, but they're not exactly cheap | 10:47 |
| chris_99 | or hood? | 10:47 |
| AdrianG | chris_99: respirator isnt going to be very helpful because you can get nitrogen oxides in your face | 10:47 |
| nmz787_i1 | yeah no respirator, just in a hood... I didn't check the roof for dead birds afterwards though | 10:47 |
| AdrianG | really really hash on mucosa, and possibly fatal | 10:48 |
| chris_99 | AdrianG, i mean full face mask | 10:48 |
| AdrianG | lung edema and goob bye earth | 10:48 |
| nmz787_i1 | I was actually wondering how it might do against a bad case of infectious pneumonia | 10:48 |
| nmz787_i1 | heh | 10:48 |
| chris_99 | like 3m 6800 | 10:48 |
| AdrianG | chris_99: such stuff is always best in a hood behind a blastproof safety sash | 10:48 |
| nmz787_i1 | I was sick just before thanksgiving with some lung thing, spent an hour spraying bleach cleaning both our bathrooms fully... and definitely burned my smell sensors with bleach... but I got better that day while my girlfriend (who didn't use bleach at all, and not in a closed room) got worse | 10:49 |
| AdrianG | nmz787_i1: just avoid nitric acid fumes if you value your lungs | 10:50 |
| nmz787_i1 | AdrianG: for fun at the end, my buddy shot some isopropanol in the beaker and it was pretty active | 10:50 |
| AdrianG | try some acetone | 10:51 |
| AdrianG | just make sure to count fingers afterwards | 10:51 |
| nmz787_i1 | haha, maybe I'll mention it to my buddy and see what he thinks | 10:51 |
| AdrianG | yeah its best if you stand behind him just in case | 10:52 |
| AdrianG | human body is a really good shock absorbent | 10:52 |
| nmz787_i1 | he taught me a new slogan, aside from the "add acid to water, like you otter".... "add water to acid, your ass will get blasted" | 10:52 |
| nmz787_i1 | haha, yeah I was doing that last night | 10:52 |
| nmz787_i1 | but that was more because I didn't have eye protection and had a nice shirt on | 10:53 |
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| FourFire | Just Watched A.I. (2001) movie was way past my expectations, why haven't I seen it before now? | 12:51 |
| Diablo-D3 | FourFire: it makes me irrationally angry for some reason | 12:53 |
| Diablo-D3 | it also didn't do all that well in the box office | 12:53 |
| chris_99 | heh, i quite liked AI | 12:53 |
| Diablo-D3 | I "liked" it I guess? The ending wants me to drive a fist through someone | 12:53 |
| Diablo-D3 | I think the movie would have been what I wanted if Kubrick himself directed it | 12:54 |
| Diablo-D3 | instead of Spielberg fucking it up | 12:54 |
| chris_99 | kubrick thought Spielberg would do a better job iirc | 12:55 |
| kanzure | waste of time. next... | 12:56 |
| Diablo-D3 | chris_99: kind of | 12:59 |
| Diablo-D3 | kubrick couldnt figure out how to end the film | 12:59 |
| chris_99 | ah | 13:00 |
| Diablo-D3 | neither could spielberg, apparently | 13:00 |
| Diablo-D3 | since he used kubrick's ending | 13:00 |
| Diablo-D3 | and its the ending that damns that movie for me | 13:00 |
| FourFire | Diablo-D3, irrationally angry? | 13:00 |
| Diablo-D3 | FourFire: yes, because its not a bad movie, it really isnt | 13:01 |
| kanzure | this is boring. | 13:01 |
| FourFire | what terribad implications for the human race did you happen to dislike? | 13:01 |
| Diablo-D3 | FourFire: the ending is too short. | 13:01 |
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| Diablo-D3 | like, literally, it finally gets to the interesting part | 13:01 |
| Diablo-D3 | and then the movie ends | 13:01 |
| FourFire | I agree with kanzure, now response from biviva so far, i presume i was too direct and won't get a response | 13:01 |
| FourFire | I have given up on Installing nvidia drivers and not breaking everything so I'm doing a fresh install on my simuylation machine and have ordered an AMD GPU | 13:02 |
| Diablo-D3 | Like, if you want to know how that sort of ending SHOULD work | 13:02 |
| Diablo-D3 | go read the manga named Hotel | 13:02 |
| FourFire | Diablo-D3, ancestor sims, i get it. | 13:02 |
| Diablo-D3 | http://www.mangareader.net/hotel/1 | 13:02 |
| FourFire | Diablo-D3, no time. | 13:03 |
| cpopell6 | oh, Boichi | 13:03 |
| cpopell6 | SKR was an interesting with a weird ending | 13:03 |
| cpopell6 | *an interesting series | 13:03 |
| Diablo-D3 | FourFire: its very short. | 13:11 |
| Diablo-D3 | In fact, just completed reading it again. | 13:11 |
| FourFire | Ok | 13:11 |
| FourFire | > I ignore recommendations about new TV shows and books, preferring not even to learn the premises, thus dodging the temptation entirely. | 13:11 |
| FourFire | from Socr8es, of MIRI on avoiding Akrasia | 13:12 |
| Diablo-D3 | http://arstechnica.com/science/2016/01/why-the-calorie-is-broken/ | 13:19 |
| Diablo-D3 | yay | 13:19 |
| Diablo-D3 | more mainstream stuff is picking up CICO is broken | 13:19 |
| nmz787_i1 | isn't starving a sure-fire way to lose weight? | 13:25 |
| nmz787_i1 | I know it is impractical to send people to starvation treatment for a month or something (people want to keep working, which requires energy for brain power, and starving/fasting is mentally hard/painful) | 13:26 |
| nmz787_i1 | and also physically painful | 13:26 |
| Diablo-D3 | nmz787_i1: you're seriously asking that? | 13:30 |
| Diablo-D3 | starvation doesn't cause long term wait loss | 13:30 |
| Diablo-D3 | in fact, it causes the body to clam up even harder, so a fat person will starve _even faster_ | 13:30 |
| Diablo-D3 | our bodies are fucking retarded sometimes | 13:30 |
| nmz787_i1 | Diablo-D3: isn't the whole point of fat so you don't starve? | 13:34 |
| nmz787_i1 | (to death) | 13:34 |
| nmz787_i1 | or one main point of it at least | 13:34 |
| AdrianG | kanzure: what does the appointment of paul chou to cftc advisory committee really mean? | 13:35 |
| AdrianG | do you have anything to share? | 13:35 |
| Diablo-D3 | nmz787_i1: exactly! | 13:39 |
| Diablo-D3 | nmz787_i1: but its also worried about you freezing to death in the bitter cold | 13:39 |
| cpopell6 | http://examine.com/faq/how-do-i-stay-out-of-starvation-mode/ | 13:39 |
| Diablo-D3 | and since lack of food usually happens during the winter.... | 13:39 |
| Diablo-D3 | thanks evolutionbama | 13:39 |
| cpopell6 | My reflex is to go see what Examine says, though there is a minute chance they're off here | 13:40 |
| nmz787_i1 | Diablo-D3: so turn up the heat in the house the month you're set to lose weight by fasting? | 13:42 |
| Diablo-D3 | nmz787_i1: nope, because your body has no mechanism to say "oh wait, we're not cold, why are we hoarding fat like a mcdonalds fry cooker" | 13:43 |
| Diablo-D3 | nmz787_i1: so for the average person, you cant drop below 1500 calories | 13:44 |
| Diablo-D3 | else your body doesnt work right | 13:44 |
| nmz787_i1 | Diablo-D3: but not working right for a month could be worth it to reduce to a less-obese weight, if that's seriously harming you physically or mentally | 13:44 |
| Diablo-D3 | cpopell6: oh my fucking god, that just did a full window GIMME YOUR EMAIL BITCH, complete with a subtle sex sells | 13:44 |
| nmz787_i1 | your body definitely has heat sensors... and I bet you can trick it into thinking you're eating by taking some MSG or something | 13:45 |
| cpopell6 | oh, just close the sales pitch | 13:45 |
| Diablo-D3 | nmz787_i1: not working right as in you wont lose weight | 13:45 |
| kanzure | AdrianG: :-) what's really weird is that you are the only one who has asked. | 13:45 |
| nmz787_i1 | Diablo-D3: so you're saying you'd just die? | 13:45 |
| Diablo-D3 | nmz787_i1: well, it gets even more fun | 13:45 |
| Diablo-D3 | yes, you'd just die | 13:45 |
| nmz787_i1 | I don't think this is true | 13:45 |
| Diablo-D3 | you'd literally starve to death and die | 13:45 |
| Diablo-D3 | your body is that stupid | 13:45 |
| Diablo-D3 | or worse | 13:45 |
| Diablo-D3 | WORSE | 13:45 |
| Diablo-D3 | it'll start eating your muscle | 13:45 |
| nmz787_i1 | I've only fasted for like a week max at a time | 13:45 |
| AdrianG | kanzure: it sounds like good news, but unsure of substance. | 13:45 |
| nmz787_i1 | but I def remember to have lost weight | 13:46 |
| Diablo-D3 | nice fucking fat supply, and it eats your muscle instead | 13:46 |
| nmz787_i1 | I was also a 14 year old or something | 13:46 |
| nmz787_i1 | and who knows, maybe it was mental placebo that I lost weight | 13:46 |
| Diablo-D3 | nmz787_i1: now, here comes the fun | 13:46 |
| Diablo-D3 | you know what contains the proper markers for your body to think you're eating? | 13:46 |
| Diablo-D3 | fat. | 13:46 |
| Diablo-D3 | you know what the human body can do? eat a high fat medium protein no carb diet | 13:47 |
| cpopell6 | http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2495396/pdf/postmedj00315-0056.pdf successful therapeutic fast of 382 days | 13:47 |
| cpopell6 | for weight loss | 13:47 |
| Diablo-D3 | and lose weight while eating 5000 calories a day. | 13:47 |
| cpopell6 | *attended by doctors with supplements and such | 13:47 |
| Diablo-D3 | cpopell6: nmz787_i1 is saying eat 0 calories. | 13:47 |
| kanzure | AdrianG: they want to learn more and counter some of the non-bitcoin hype. | 13:47 |
| AdrianG | cftc wants to counter non-bitcon hype? | 13:48 |
| AdrianG | really? | 13:48 |
| cpopell6 | yes, this guy took in BDH, vitamin c, yeast, calorie-free fluids, and potassium | 13:48 |
| kanzure | AdrianG: cftc wants to get good knowledge. | 13:48 |
| nmz787_i1 | Diablo-D3: not necessarily, i'm saying seriously mostly stop eating, i'd guess cutout at least 90-95% calories | 13:48 |
| nmz787_i1 | but yeah I was thinking the same study http://zidbits.com/2013/06/how-long-can-you-live-off-the-fat-in-your-body/ | 13:48 |
| Diablo-D3 | and Im saying the number of calories going in has nothing to do with how much weight you lose | 13:49 |
| Diablo-D3 | seeing as _I have personally done this_ | 13:49 |
| kanzure | AdrianG: hard to get good knowledge in some parts of the current fintech climate. | 13:49 |
| Diablo-D3 | 5000 calories a day, lost weight so fast I had to discontinue it and eat my emergency carbs | 13:49 |
| AdrianG | kanzure: ive been quite disturbed by toronto stock exchange appointing di iorio as their digital officer. and i just realized cftc asked paul chou to serve on their committee. | 13:49 |
| cpopell6 | Diablo-D3 : were you keeping a log? | 13:49 |
| Diablo-D3 | cpopell6: define log | 13:50 |
| nmz787_i1 | Diablo-D3: were you eating laxative at the same time? | 13:50 |
| Diablo-D3 | nmz787_i1: nope. | 13:50 |
| cpopell6 | Diablo-D3 : were you tracking calories in by recording it in a journal, preferably online? | 13:50 |
| Diablo-D3 | cpopell6: online, no. | 13:50 |
| Diablo-D3 | cpopell6: but I was "keeping a journal" because I was eating all the same thing | 13:50 |
| Diablo-D3 | cpopell6: an exact amount of bacon. | 13:51 |
| Diablo-D3 | bacon has the magical property of being very calorically dense and, with a good brand, pretty close in the fat to meat ratio | 13:51 |
| cpopell6 | you were eating 116 slices of bacon a day? | 13:51 |
| Diablo-D3 | 2 pounds of bacon every day. | 13:51 |
| Diablo-D3 | you cant say slice, everyone has different thicknesses of slices | 13:51 |
| cpopell6 | 2 pounds before or after cooking | 13:52 |
| Diablo-D3 | before | 13:52 |
| Diablo-D3 | fun fact: most of the shrinkage in bacon, unless you outright obliterate it, is water | 13:52 |
| AdrianG | kanzure: hopefully CFTC will help legitimize bitcoin as an actual asset. | 13:52 |
| cpopell6 | Diablo-D3 : so you were eating (approximation, here) around 30 slices of bacon a day? | 13:53 |
| kanzure | AdrianG: way ahead of you. | 13:53 |
| cpopell6 | that's 2 lbs uncooked | 13:53 |
| Diablo-D3 | cpopell6: I prefer thick cut, so less. | 13:53 |
| AdrianG | kanzure: ? | 13:53 |
| Diablo-D3 | but yeah, somewhere in that ballpark | 13:53 |
| Diablo-D3 | cpopell6: pound packages, ate two a day | 13:53 |
| AdrianG | kanzure: in what sense? | 13:53 |
| kanzure | AdrianG: pm | 13:53 |
| Diablo-D3 | I have a huge goddamned broiler pan, three fourth of a package fit on it | 13:53 |
| cpopell6 | Diablo-D3 : do you know the brand? | 13:53 |
| Diablo-D3 | cpopell6: this time? one of the local store brands | 13:54 |
| Diablo-D3 | I calculated calories via the nutritional panel on it, but all of them were pretty close (yes, I stood in the store with the calculator app open, FOR SCIENCE!) | 13:54 |
| cpopell6 | nutritional profiles are post-cooking though | 13:54 |
| Diablo-D3 | cpopell6: the thing is, this was a practice run for the actual attempt | 13:55 |
| Diablo-D3 | cpopell6: it was meant to be for an entire month | 13:55 |
| Diablo-D3 | I couldn't make it ten days | 13:55 |
| cpopell6 | let's come to an agreement on the nutritional profile of uncooked bacon per weight | 13:55 |
| cpopell6 | http://nutritiondata.self.com/facts/pork-products/2208/2 do you find this page reasonable? | 13:55 |
| Diablo-D3 | cpopell6: well, if the nutritional profile is of cooked, it doesn't quite matter | 13:56 |
| cpopell6 | this is uncooked | 13:56 |
| Diablo-D3 | the panel said x calories, x g fat, x g protein per serving, approximately x servings per package | 13:56 |
| Diablo-D3 | the math came out to a tiny smidgen over 5000 | 13:56 |
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| cpopell6 | no matter how I'm doing the math I'm not getting 5k calories for 2lbs of bacon | 13:56 |
| Diablo-D3 | weird. | 13:56 |
| cpopell6 | *uncooked | 13:56 |
| cpopell6 | 5k calories for 2lbs of cooked bacon? | 13:56 |
| cpopell6 | closer to 10k | 13:57 |
| cpopell6 | sorry, no, that's 5k | 13:57 |
| cpopell6 | for 2lbs of post-cooking | 13:57 |
| cpopell6 | 1kg of bacon is about 5400 calories, cooked | 13:57 |
| Diablo-D3 | cpopell6: see heres the problem | 13:57 |
| cpopell6 | uncooked it's about 1500 calories | 13:57 |
| Diablo-D3 | I weighed what the extruded oil was | 13:57 |
| cpopell6 | 1500-2000 | 13:57 |
| Diablo-D3 | and the cooked bacon | 13:57 |
| Diablo-D3 | the weight only changed about 15% | 13:58 |
| Diablo-D3 | and there was very little extruded oil | 13:58 |
| Diablo-D3 | it almost wasnt worth measuring at all | 13:58 |
| Diablo-D3 | cpopell6: now heres the other thing | 13:59 |
| Diablo-D3 | lets say, sure, 5000 calories in 2 pounds cooked | 13:59 |
| Diablo-D3 | okay, sure | 13:59 |
| Diablo-D3 | thats 2438 calories per pound, 187.1g (or 287% DV) of fat, 7768 mg (323%) of sodium, and 170.1g (340%) of protein | 14:00 |
| Diablo-D3 | thats according to google, the numbers on the package were similar | 14:00 |
| Diablo-D3 | I was eating almost 600% of my DV of fat, over 600% of my sodium, and almost 700% of my protien | 14:01 |
| cpopell6 | that's like 10 lbs of uncooked | 14:01 |
| Diablo-D3 | cpopell6: no, thats what google quotes for 1lb cooked | 14:01 |
| Diablo-D3 | bacon does not shrink 10x. | 14:01 |
| Diablo-D3 | google has numbers for 1 pound uncooked as well | 14:03 |
| cpopell6 | it has about a 66% reduction in mass | 14:03 |
| Diablo-D3 | its about 1900 calories | 14:03 |
| Diablo-D3 | which is about 25% reduction. | 14:03 |
| cpopell6 | http://blog.doingsciencetostuff.com/2014/05/18/bacon-shrinkage/ | 14:03 |
| Diablo-D3 | and whoever did the cooked numbers was fucking obliterating their bacon | 14:03 |
| Diablo-D3 | I prefer my bacon just starting to get crispy | 14:04 |
| Diablo-D3 | not rock hard bullshit | 14:04 |
| Diablo-D3 | so given that, cpopell6 | 14:05 |
| Diablo-D3 | since we cant agree on numbers | 14:05 |
| Diablo-D3 | I was still eating ~4000 calories a day | 14:05 |
| Diablo-D3 | since thats the number of calories in 2 pounds of uncooked | 14:05 |
| Diablo-D3 | which in no way, according to simple CICO theory can lead to a loss of a pound of weight per day. | 14:06 |
| Diablo-D3 | it didnt start all that much, it accelerated the longer I did it | 14:06 |
| Diablo-D3 | on the tenth day I actually ate 3 pounds of bacon, and was still hungry | 14:07 |
| Diablo-D3 | so I aborted the experiment and digged into my emergency carbs | 14:07 |
| Diablo-D3 | cpopell6: I just want to lose the last of the pounds | 14:13 |
| Diablo-D3 | science is science and all, but I need to know if what Im doing produces the results I want first | 14:13 |
| jrayhawk | cpopell6: that yearlong therapeutic fast thing is interesting; thanks for that | 14:23 |
| Diablo-D3 | cpopell6: gaining back the weight is easy | 14:23 |
| Diablo-D3 | so if I can manage to make this work sanely, its easy to do the science | 14:24 |
| jrayhawk | Diablo-D3: Just to warn you, gaining back the gut biome turns out to be a pain in the ass. | 14:24 |
| Diablo-D3 | jrayhawk: I think you may have just punned | 14:24 |
| Diablo-D3 | and my gut biome is already changed | 14:25 |
| jrayhawk | As in the damage done in six months of zero-carbing may take more than six months to sort itself out. | 14:25 |
| Diablo-D3 | anything that relied on grains and refined sugars has largely died off | 14:25 |
| Diablo-D3 | jrayhawk: ahh that, no | 14:25 |
| Diablo-D3 | I wasnt looking at doing it for 6 months | 14:25 |
| Diablo-D3 | just a month | 14:25 |
| Diablo-D3 | 6 months I'd look like a goddamned skeleton | 14:26 |
| Diablo-D3 | jrayhawk: see, Im 6 foot tall | 14:26 |
| Diablo-D3 | I used to weigh 340 | 14:26 |
| jrayhawk | Anabolic signalling isn't that hard to input. | 14:27 |
| Diablo-D3 | strict paleo over a year I became 215, and then by the end of the second year I hit 184 | 14:27 |
| jrayhawk | 15 minutes of resistance training per week is plenty for most people. | 14:27 |
| cluckj | ketosis is neat | 14:28 |
| Diablo-D3 | Ive increased weight since then due to increased muscle mass (took up weight lifting) | 14:28 |
| Diablo-D3 | but I still have like, about 15 pounds ish left | 14:28 |
| Diablo-D3 | that needs to go away | 14:28 |
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| Diablo-D3 | jrayhawk: I mean, worse case is | 14:36 |
| Diablo-D3 | Iif I can only do it ten days at a time | 14:36 |
| Diablo-D3 | I do ten days on ten days off or something | 14:37 |
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| nmz787_i1 | kanzure: if I want to store (diff) patches... from a long running program that will generate many patches... what is an efficient way to store them? I was thinking CSV would be easy because I could just append new data to the file... but then I see the patches have newlines in them and who knows what else, possibly quotes | 14:45 |
| jrayhawk | Well, with the biome issue, you only really notice problems afterward. | 14:45 |
| nmz787_i1 | I /could/ create a directory for the patches, and write out 1000s of patch files | 14:46 |
| nmz787_i1 | but that seems rather ugly | 14:46 |
| nmz787_i1 | I also considered JSON, but then I'd have to keep a copy of the dict in memory (with a timestamp for the key I) and write out the whole dict at once, every time I wanted to update (which was everytime I create a diff/patch) | 14:47 |
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| TMA | nmz787_i1: that sounds like a typical workload for a database -- having a set of data and changing it piecewise | 15:04 |
| nmz787_i1 | TMA: hmm, SQlite? | 15:18 |
| kanzure | nmz787_i1: `git diff` can generate patches. or `git patch` i think. | 15:23 |
| streety | I think SQLite should work fine | 15:24 |
| nmz787_i1 | kanzure: I have the patches/diffs... using https://code.google.com/p/google-diff-match-patch/ | 15:31 |
| TMA | nmz787_i1: I have no strong feelings about any one database engine in particular. from what you have said, pretty much any database might be suitable -- the difference is mainly in the minutiae [performance, scalability, reliability, ORM ease, compatibility with your language of choice, price, size limitation...] | 15:31 |
| nmz787_i1 | TMA: I think for now, I will just save individual patch files in a special directory for them all... if there are 10,000 files after a run, well that's a good reason to change over then... but for now it seems implementing a db is for later improvements (even if maybe tomorrow, after I get the rest working) | 15:35 |
| TMA | nmz787_i1: also, you can get a long way not spitting the files into one directory but to several (think of the cache on-disk organization -- typically the file name is a hash, say "12345678..." and it is stored in 1/2/12345678... -- that reduces the number of files in the directory to a manageable amount) | 15:40 |
| TMA | also, I could use some improvements to my syntax. | 15:41 |
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| maaku | Ugggh notary and witnesses got "weirded out" by alcor paperwork at the last minute. Now I need to draw up new docs and redo it | 16:48 |
| maaku | Anyone know a cryonics friendly notary in the sf bay area? | 16:49 |
| kanzure | maaku: i know tons of people in the area, i could start you with christine peterson, ralph merkle, robert freitas, singularityu, pick your poison... | 16:51 |
| kanzure | also there's probably an actual cryonics group | 16:52 |
| maaku | Are any of them notaries? | 16:52 |
| maaku | They can probably provide a recommendation though | 16:53 |
| AdrianG | the notary refused to sign your alcor paperwork? | 16:58 |
| AdrianG | i've never heard of notaries refusals like that. | 17:02 |
| streety | I'm curious to know what the issue was. Did they not think you understood the documents? | 17:06 |
| maaku | streety: they did not understand the documents | 17:08 |
| maaku | and therefore, could not be sure that I could | 17:08 |
| maaku | but actually the notary was quite rude and seemed to object to the idea of it | 17:09 |
| maaku | it was my bank actually | 17:10 |
| maaku | former bank | 17:10 |
| streety | Sounds like you found a bad notary, not understanding I can get but disagreeing with and using a lack of understanding as an excuse to block doesn't seem to be appropriate to me | 17:11 |
| streety | was it your former bank this morning? | 17:11 |
| maaku | nope | 17:13 |
| maaku | it was a pretty rude and judgemental experience, so i'll be moving my business elsewhere | 17:13 |
| AdrianG | the only situation when a notary refuses to sign would be if they'd think you are not mentally capable | 17:15 |
| AdrianG | basically, they thought you were nuts. | 17:15 |
| AdrianG | bank notaries are of the worst kind, you should've just gone to a lawyer. | 17:16 |
| streety | or could not confirm your identity or themselves stood to benefit financially | 17:17 |
| AdrianG | im assuming he had his IDs on him, and maaku isnt notaries' spouse or whatever | 17:18 |
| AdrianG | usually, common law notaries are not required to ensure you understand the document, maybe that local jurisdiction differs in that aspect. | 17:19 |
| streety | oh in this case I think your summary is spot on. | 17:19 |
| AdrianG | perhaps the notary can also assert it was his understanding maaku was being scammed. | 17:20 |
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| AdrianG | i never seen alcors paperwork, but the fastest way to get this notarized, if it's that weird, would be to deal with a lawyer who has a good amount of experience with mental health law. | 17:21 |
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| nmz787_i | got my degree today in the mail | 18:08 |
| cluckj | congrats | 18:09 |
| cluckj | they can't take it away from you now | 18:09 |
| lkjhfr | nmz787_i: have you checked out that link already? | 18:12 |
| nmz787_i | what is the mRNA analogue of the proteome? | 18:12 |
| nmz787_i | lkjhfr: haven't checked the logs | 18:12 |
| nmz787_i | lkjhfr: which link? | 18:13 |
| lkjhfr | http://www.electrofuels.org/ | 18:14 |
| nmz787_i | cluckj: thanks | 18:14 |
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| nmz787_i | oh, I have had it open since I last opened it | 18:14 |
| nmz787_i | so there's this from 2 hours ago: http://hackaday.com/2016/01/26/stop-driving-laser-cutters-with-3d-printer-software/ | 18:15 |
| nmz787_i | points to https://github.com/openhardwarecoza/LaserWeb | 18:15 |
| nmz787_i | .title | 18:15 |
| yoleaux | GitHub - openhardwarecoza/LaserWeb: Node.js based, Windows/Linux/Mac/Raspberry Pi/Vagrant supported, host software for Lasercutters/Engravers running Marlin/Smoothieware/Grbl/LasaurGrbl with integrated parametric Gcode generators, Raster support, as well as Raster and Vector Engraving. SVG and DXF supported for cutting, PNG, BMP, JPEG support for raster engraving. | 18:15 |
| lkjhfr | nmz787_i: i have no idea what is this thing you're asking about but wikipedia suggests either transcriptome or exome | 18:15 |
| nmz787_i | transcriptome is it | 18:16 |
| nmz787_i | kanzure: re "It is suspected that persister Borrelia burrows deeply into nerve tissue" Nathan McCorkle <nmz787@gmail.com>6:22 PM (0 minutes ago)to diybioI wonder is C. elegans would work.. it has nerves... ? | 18:23 |
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| kanzure | well celegans has neurons | 19:21 |
| kanzure | i am not sure if this qualifies as nerves | 19:22 |
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