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| kanzure | i wonder if japan babymaking would be fixed if parets were guaranteed various kinds of outcomes (e.g. through genetic engineerig) | 05:55 |
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| kanzure | also, i think a bunch of the religious nutjobs can be convinced if you frame it as "genetically editing the fetuses that would otherwise die in the womb" ("save the babies") | 06:06 |
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| archels | we don't need to convince the relgious nutjobs, that's a lost cause anyway | 07:19 |
| archels | we need to convince the middle and upper class, people who have money and want to use this technology first-handed | 07:19 |
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| kanzure | my point was that governments might have a positive interest due to populations that have not been hitting their quotas | 07:22 |
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| kanzure | .title https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wMDrUljhfm4 | 08:06 |
| yoleaux | Cryonic Harvest - YouTube | 08:06 |
| kanzure | (music) | 08:07 |
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| JayDugger | kanzure, do you mean sex selection for "babymaking would be fixed if parets [sic] were guaranteed various kinds of outcomes"? | 08:37 |
| sh | I think Japanese would be more interested in academic ability and mental conformity score things. | 08:44 |
| kanzure | to my knowledge, sex selection is not why industrialized countries have decreasing birth rtes | 08:49 |
| kanzure | *rates | 08:49 |
| TMA | sex selection is "a thing" when there is already a pressure to reduce the birth rate to one child per adult | 09:04 |
| TMA | I have read that the birth rate reduction is a viable total fitness maximization strategy | 09:05 |
| TMA | parents have resources to be utilized -- they can utilize it for creation of their own offspring or they can limit their offspring headcount providing greater resources to the offspring's offspring | 09:08 |
| TMA | [single child able to sustain three grandchildren is strictly better than two children able to sustain one grandchild each] | 09:09 |
| TMA | [incidentally there seems to be a sharp payoff cutoff at three children per person per generation -- having more children reduces the affluence of the grandchildren by such an amount, that it reduces the total number of children in the next two generations] | 09:11 |
| TMA | source: | 09:14 |
| TMA | Louise Barrett; Robin Dunbar; John Lycett -- Evoluční psychologie člověka, 2007, ISBN 978-80-7178-969-7 | 09:14 |
| TMA | original title: Human evolutionary psychology | 09:15 |
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| FourFire | So, I talked to a guy who's working in the two main makerspaces in Oslo, Wants to build proof of concept automated factory system(s) with shopbots, I'll see if I can get him to write about it in detail. | 12:10 |
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| FourFire | Automated meaning to the extent of getting material from storage, moving it onto shopbot bed, aligning it, and the zero axii, doing the entire job, moving the job, and storing it, without the involvement of humans. | 12:55 |
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| FourFire | kanzure, that video you linked isn't up anymore | 13:34 |
| FourFire | possible alternative video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dbEn-WhB_k0 | 13:36 |
| kanzure | most of that automation should probably be done with linuxcnc | 13:46 |
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| streety | reminds me of those robotic systems to burn CDs/DVDs when they were still popular | 15:16 |
| kanzure | robots will always be popular | 15:17 |
| streety | unless we get a skynet like event | 15:18 |
| streety | that would trigger some serious dislike | 15:18 |
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| kanzure | "We recently obtained about a million regular clinical blood test samples linked to age and gender from a Russian independent testing laboratory and trained several deep neural networks to predict age and gender using just ten parameters or an expanded set of 41 parameters. If possible, can you please test it with your data? http://www.aging.ai/ " | 15:32 |
| kanzure | "This is a deep-learned predictor of your age made with a deep neural network trained on hundreds of thousands anonymized human blood tests." | 15:33 |
| kanzure | "Our team’s mission is to extend human longevity, do it in humans with a goal of producing 10 billion quality-adjusted life years (QALY) to Facebook users by 2020" what? | 15:33 |
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| kanzure | streety: to be fair, after a handful of genocides, for some reason the majority of the human population ain't misanthropic | 15:46 |
| kanzure | oh, i guess partial misanthropy might count, nevermind | 15:47 |
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| streety | Perhaps they think Facebook users are the only humans actually worth saving | 16:09 |
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| kanzure | streety: indeed, perhaps they mean "facebook-adjusted life years" | 16:12 |
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| streety | either way, the liberal use of "'s is justified | 16:15 |
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| kanzure | cathal garvey says "livestream tickets are available for tomorrow's https://synbiofuture2016.eventbrite.com/ " | 17:07 |
| kanzure | organizer is shama.chilakwad@sosv.com | 17:08 |
| kanzure | (sos ventures) | 17:09 |
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| pasky | "livestream tickets"? | 17:40 |
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| pasky | "This is a deep-learned predictor of your age made with a deep neural network" vs. "just ten parameters or an expanded set of 41 parameters" => they likely don't know what they are doing | 17:42 |
| kanzure | "livestream tickets" as in "we are douchebags and we are only giving out the livestream link to people who sign up" | 17:46 |
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| cluckj | neat, my dissertation is supposedly up on proquest...to which I do not have access | 18:33 |
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| kanzure | i hope you correctly attributed me as "ruler of the galaxy" or something, heathen | 18:35 |
| cluckj | psh, you wish | 18:37 |
| kanzure | precisely? | 18:37 |
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| cluckj | yes | 18:39 |
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