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| streety | the livestream link for the synbiofuture2016 conference mentioned above is https://www.ucc.ie/en/live/ Cathal just posted it to the DIYbio mailing list | 03:48 |
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| kanzure | "bootleg oil refineries" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4e3_bkKwgQY | 04:08 |
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| kanzure | "Genomics Personalized Health, a new service provider on Science Exchange, will sequence your personal genome for $2500 until March 31st." | 07:08 |
| kanzure | "Genomics Personalized Health sends you an easy-to-use saliva collection kit, also called a “spit kit”, and once it is processed your personal whole genome is made available, exclusively to you, in a secure cloud environment in approximately 6 weeks." | 07:09 |
| cluckj | wow | 07:09 |
| pompolic | "secure cloud evironment" gives me pause | 07:11 |
| kanzure | right... and they don't say what coverage. | 07:11 |
| kanzure | other services offer this for $1k, but if this is 80x coverage then all the better.... | 07:12 |
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| kanzure | http://compellingsciencefiction.com/submit.html | 07:37 |
| kanzure | .title https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11151062 | 07:37 |
| yoleaux | I'm looking for science fiction writers | Hacker News | 07:37 |
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| dpk | ersatz paperbot: doi:10.1515/lexi-2015-0011 and doi:10.1515/lexi-2015-0010 can someone PDF these in my face please? | 08:28 |
| dpk | (http://dx.doi.org/10.1515/lexi-2015-0011 and http://dx.doi.org/10.1515/lexi-2015-0010 in lolurl form) | 08:29 |
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| kanzure | dpk: paperbot is not around at the moment, please leave a message | 08:53 |
| archels | accès interdit, désolé | 08:54 |
| archels | ebenfalls, Zugang verboten | 08:55 |
| kanzure | i wonder if there are any brained species where the connectome is sufficient to get equivalent cognitive ability, even if it turns out that the first few that we investigate that the connectome is not sufficient itself | 08:56 |
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| dpk | archels: yeah, i usually have access to this stuff but in this case no D: | 09:12 |
| dpk | i guess i could go to the university library here in person | 09:12 |
| dpk | (as non student i don't have at-home access to journals) | 09:13 |
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| archels | ah right, no VPN | 09:32 |
| archels | install an RPi0 somewhere next to an ethernet socket ;) | 09:32 |
| dpk | hehe | 09:35 |
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| nmz787_i | or just pay $20 or $25 to join a university as a non-matriculated student so you get library login privs | 10:10 |
| nmz787_i | kanzure: you were summoned to diybio a week or so ago, not sure if you realized | 10:16 |
| kanzure | summoned? | 10:21 |
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| kanzure | "On Bitcoin Security in the Presence of Broken Crypto Primitives" https://eprint.iacr.org/2016/167.pdf | 10:44 |
| kanzure | .title https://xairy.github.io/blog/2016/cve-2016-2384 | 10:45 |
| yoleaux | CVE-2016-2384: arbitrary code execution due to a double-free in the usb-midi linux kernel driver | 10:45 |
| dpk | nmz787_i: can't do that here | 10:49 |
| dpk | but can become a library member free as a Berlin state resident | 10:49 |
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| nmz787_i | dpk: just do it at UMASS boston.. I don't think they check which country you're from | 11:01 |
| kanzure | nmz787_i: where was i summoned? and for what? | 11:02 |
| nmz787_i | i think it was last week | 11:04 |
| kanzure | gah | 11:04 |
| nmz787_i | Cathal wanted your input on git I think | 11:04 |
| kanzure | oh man | 11:05 |
| nmz787_i | 11 days ago "calling BryanBishop... Please stand up...)." | 11:05 |
| nmz787_i | [DIYbio] Status/purpose of biohacklabs.org? | 11:05 |
| kanzure | thank you, i have replied now | 11:08 |
| nmz787_i | np | 11:16 |
| kanzure | i should have mentioned that diyhpluswiki.git has a full copy (converted to git) of all the openwetware.org diybio faq changes | 11:17 |
| kanzure | which is relevant to their git discussion | 11:17 |
| kanzure | but also ironic because that diybio faq used to live on the hplusroadmap wiki (long before diyhpl.us/wiki) | 11:18 |
| nmz787_i | diybio is all over the place | 11:19 |
| nmz787_i | I guess that's what happens with no central governance, and no ratified plan of consensus | 11:20 |
| kanzure | diybio.org itself claims that mac and jason are in charge........ | 11:20 |
| pasky | who needs central governance? | 11:49 |
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| archels | http://f1web.ijs.si/~zitko/conference.ngsces.org/2015/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/Prochaska_NGSCES2015_poster.pdf | 12:35 |
| archels | MBEs are pretty steampunk | 12:35 |
| chris_99 | haha | 12:37 |
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| nmz787_i | beampunk will be the next steampunk, after molecular/particle beams become "old" | 13:20 |
| nmz787_i | .g start year steam revolution | 13:20 |
| yoleaux | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Industrial_Revolution | 13:20 |
| nmz787_i | .wik Industrial Revolution | 13:20 |
| yoleaux | "The Industrial Revolution was the transition to new manufacturing processes in the period from about 1760 to sometime between 1820 and 1840." — https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Industrial_Revolution | 13:20 |
| nmz787_i | so figure steampunk wasn't a thing til... um, 2000s? | 13:21 |
| nmz787_i | so ~240 years after the first non-water particle beam (firehose) we can celebrate with beampunk | 13:21 |
| chris_99 | heh | 13:22 |
| archels | beampunk haha | 13:22 |
| nmz787_i | I guess tubies (if that's a word for people who prefer tubes over transistors) are sort of beampunkers | 13:23 |
| nmz787_i | lightning is the original beampunk | 13:24 |
| chris_99 | haha | 13:25 |
| Filosofem | I am leaning toward tubes | 13:25 |
| Filosofem | problem? :D | 13:25 |
| Filosofem | It just sound more natural to me | 13:25 |
| chris_99 | have you heard of electrolasers nmz787_i? something like that would be fun to make | 13:25 |
| nmz787_i | Filosofem: you're so beampunk | 13:25 |
| nmz787_i | chris_99: nope | 13:26 |
| chris_99 | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrolaser | 13:26 |
| chris_99 | laser + electricity = profit | 13:26 |
| Aurelius_Work | chris_99 : I know someone who worked on those for the military | 13:27 |
| pompolic | make the internet a series of tubes | 13:27 |
| chris_99 | Aurelius_Work, cool, i wonder how powerful the laser needs to be | 13:28 |
| nmz787_i | "Because a laser-induced plasma channel relies on ionization, gas must exist between the electrolaser weapon and its target." | 13:28 |
| nmz787_i | I wonder if you had a tunable laser, or a few different lasers... if you could create the plasma channel from space... then use another color laser to induce photoelectric effect to get your current source | 13:29 |
| chris_99 | so it won't work in space :'( unless we provide the gas | 13:29 |
| nmz787_i | that way you only need gas at the target | 13:29 |
| chris_99 | ' create the plasma channel from space' what do you mean by that? | 13:29 |
| nmz787_i | shine a laser from mars to earth, at the atmosphere a column of plasma will be created... but now you need a current source to shock your target | 13:30 |
| nmz787_i | so use the photoelectric effect using a laser tunedto knowck off electrons | 13:30 |
| nmz787_i | since photons need no gas to travel | 13:31 |
| chris_99 | ohhh haha | 13:31 |
| chris_99 | you should writing to a funding body explaining how you want to install a giant death ray on mars | 13:32 |
| nmz787_i | "he laser beam is self-focusing due to the high laser intensity of 50 gigawatts, which changes the speed of light in air" | 13:33 |
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| chris_99 | have you heard of digitally tunable capacitors, they seem really nifty, i was linked to a cool paper which uses them for RF - http://www.arrl.org/files/file/QEX_Next_Issue/2016/January_February_2016/Chuma_QEX_1_16.pdf | 13:39 |
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| nmz787_i | chris_99: do you mean varactors? | 14:24 |
| nmz787_i | chris_99: if so, I've heard of them | 14:24 |
| chris_99 | nah, the varactor is diode based i believe, this is a chip which uses FETs to sum a number of weighted capacitors | 14:25 |
| chris_99 | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Variable_capacitor#Digitally_tuned_capacitor it's the SOI one | 14:26 |
| kanzure | .title https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11154237 | 14:50 |
| yoleaux | Break Up the Insulin Racket | Hacker News | 14:50 |
| kanzure | "There are so many people on both insulin and government health insurance that it's probably in the taxpayers' interest to build an insulin factory to supply the low-end." | 14:50 |
| kanzure | wont be beampunk it will be webpunk | 14:53 |
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| delinquentme | do we have anyone whos willing to do free work in molecular dynamics simulations? | 15:51 |
| kanzure | fourfire | 15:52 |
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| Jawmare | delinquentme, Gaussian? | 15:55 |
| delinquentme | Jawmare:im not aware of what kinds there are :D | 15:56 |
| Jawmare | delinquentme, like what kind of calculation do you want to do? | 15:57 |
| delinquentme | simple question: at what diameter difference in carbon nanotubes do they become loose enough to thrust one in / out of another | 15:57 |
| Jawmare | ok nanotubes | 15:57 |
| Jawmare | I don't know much about that :/ | 15:58 |
| delinquentme | then theres also this cool little process I've recently found out about which allows end-to-end joining of CNTs | 15:58 |
| delinquentme | http://www.nature.com/nnano/journal/v3/n1/abs/nnano.2007.406.html | 15:58 |
| delinquentme | "Here we demonstrate that a Joule heating process, and associated electro-migration effects," | 15:59 |
| delinquentme | so this starts to allow us to make longer and longer CNTs ... assuming that we can cut and re-anneal each end multiple times until we get the junction we want | 16:00 |
| Jawmare | I don't know anything about nanostuff lol | 16:00 |
| delinquentme | couple this with the fact that we've grown 550mm 'atomically perfect' CNts | 16:00 |
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| streety | looking at that 'break up the insulin racket' article does anyone know what the patents mentioned are? Insulin isn't exactly new, hard to think it's production would be protected by patents at this point | 16:38 |
| Jawmare | streety, producing something and producing something thats suitable for human consumption is different | 16:47 |
| streety | that's not generally a patent issue though | 16:48 |
| Jawmare | also, making insulin is not patented | 16:49 |
| Jawmare | The method of making insulin is | 16:49 |
| streety | It looks like the issue is more one of communication. There are cheaper forms of insulin out there but the 'better' forms are being prescribed with patients unaware that the cheaper forms exist | 16:50 |
| streety | actually it seems like it may be the slight improvements that are patented | 16:50 |
| streety | the method could also be patented but how difficult would it actually be to work around? Especially when you could double your manufacturing costs and still sell it cheaper | 16:51 |
| Jawmare | pharma cutting research budget breh | 16:52 |
| Jawmare | also selling it cheaper?1 | 16:52 |
| Jawmare | ?! | 16:52 |
| Jawmare | cheaper is not a word on their dictionary | 16:52 |
| Jawmare | do you see gsk making generic drugs? | 16:53 |
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| streety | Probably why the headline for the article calls it the insulin racket | 17:01 |
| Jawmare | I dunno why people expecting company in the healthcare sector to be altruistic? | 17:04 |
| Jawmare | There is nothing wrong with a racket | 17:04 |
| Jawmare | profit drives innovation | 17:06 |
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| delinquentme | http://www2.lbl.gov/Science-Articles/Archive/nanobearings.html | 17:06 |
| delinquentme | "In a paper which appeared in the July 28, 2000 issue of the journal Science, Cumings and Zettl described how they were able to carefully remove the capped end of a MWNT and extrude from it a smaller nanotube "much like the telescoping of a mariner's traditional spyglass."" | 17:06 |
| delinquentme | bingo. | 17:06 |
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| kanzure | what was the hippocampus size polymorphism? | 18:35 |
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