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| kanzure | https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/pull/374 | 10:55 |
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| sandeepkr_ | any suggestions on some DIY experiments i can do with coal.I have a DAQ, i can program and design circuit to study properties. | 12:35 |
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| heath | https://vimeo.com/135473713 | 13:18 |
| heath | .title | 13:18 |
| yoleaux | Pathogen-Extracting Sepsis Therapy on Vimeo | 13:18 |
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| kanzure | .title https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11533435 | 13:35 |
| yoleaux | FreeCAD 0.16 release notes | Hacker News | 13:35 |
| kanzure | http://freecadweb.org/wiki/index.php?title=Release_notes_0.16 | 13:35 |
| kanzure | .title https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11531448 | 13:36 |
| yoleaux | The history of peer review, and how it was troubled from the start | Hacker News | 13:36 |
| kanzure | http://www.nature.com/news/peer-review-troubled-from-the-start-1.19763 | 13:36 |
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| kanzure | https://github.com/symbiolab/bio-labware/blob/master/000_bio-labware_overview.md | 13:55 |
| heath | https://palmeral.github.io/min/ | 15:12 |
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| nmz787_i | sup | 15:21 |
| catern | heath: that browser appears to be written by a fan of debian, so it can't be that bad | 15:33 |
| pasky | heath: interesting, but still not what I'm waiting for (a browser that just drops the distinction between bookmarks and tabs and finds the right blend of both)... maybe it's in the right direction though | 15:33 |
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| xentrac_ | pasky: that's interesting | 16:09 |
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| xentrac_ | someone wrote a browser entirely in CSS and JavaScript? forgive me if I assume they're lying through their teeth here | 16:10 |
| xentrac_ | I mean ejs is the only ahead-of-time JS compiler I know of, and it's not yet ready for production use, and I don't think anyone has even come close to writing an ACID-testable browser engine in JS (even if they *did* have a compiler for it) | 16:11 |
| pasky | I use tabs as bookmarks as bookmarks didn't evolve at all since someone invented them in 1992; but the downside is that my browser takes a lot of memory and is slow and game over without vertical tabs :( | 16:12 |
| xentrac_ | you probably would benefit from being able to tag your tabs too | 16:13 |
| pasky | xentrac_: it's as much in CSS and JavaScript as Firefox is in XUL (if they still call it that) | 16:13 |
| xentrac_ | hmm, I don't think Firefox is in XUL | 16:13 |
| pasky | xentrac_: probably not; I'd never bother; I'd benefit from them autoclustering and fast fulltext search | 16:13 |
| xentrac_ | I mean none of it is | 16:13 |
| kanzure | yes i expect my tabs to get cached and stored as bookmarks, some sort of fall-off algorithm or backoff algorithm | 16:13 |
| xentrac_ | Seamonkey used XUL | 16:14 |
| kanzure | and everything i browse should also be cached in a local caching proxy | 16:14 |
| pasky | well my firefox uses something called xulrunner, or used to | 16:14 |
| xentrac_ | yeah, but basically it avoids using XUL for anything IIRC | 16:14 |
| kanzure | pasky: i have been using a tag-based bookmark manager for a while now, https://github.com/davidlazar/jotmuch | 16:14 |
| xentrac_ | even though it runs under xulrunner | 16:14 |
| kanzure | pasky: and my one modification to xmonad was the ability to bring windows up based on tags (or was it just a single keyword?) i applied. but not quite integrated with bookmarks... | 16:15 |
| pasky | interesting... but so much bother | 16:15 |
| pasky | if some page is interesting and i want to come back to it later (to heck for updates or just continue reading), *i won't close the tab* | 16:16 |
| pasky | and i won't use bookmarks gizmo that requires a iota more activity from me than that, i'm afraid :) | 16:16 |
| xentrac_ | pasky: I've always found it useful to write notes about things | 16:17 |
| pasky | for me that always turns to a big project that suddenly is hugely expensive to keep up and i give up :) | 16:18 |
| kanzure | pasky: command line tagged bookmarking tool is not significant effort. about the same as "open shell, call vim". e.g. i use "jot bookmark url tag1 tag2 tag3". | 16:19 |
| xentrac_ | pasky: yeah, here's an example bookmark of mine, in a text file that I keep open in Emacs | 16:19 |
| xentrac_ | http://jeff-vogel.blogspot.com.ar/2016/04/how-i-deal-with-harassment-abuse-and.html?m=1 How to deal with #public-shaming and online #harassment and abuse. | 16:20 |
| pasky | kanzure: it sounds sane, but in my case my tabs would probably start queuing up for jotting :) | 16:20 |
| pasky | another downside is that it doesn't keep state | 16:20 |
| xentrac_ | so I can use ^R to search in my notes | 16:20 |
| pasky | like where am i scrolled in that long document, or in what chapter of finnegan's wake ;) i ended up | 16:21 |
| xentrac_ | some things I actually take the time to summarize, which helps me understand them | 16:21 |
| xentrac_ | http://www.economist.com/news/business/21696941-solar-power-reshaping-energy-production-developing-world-follow-sun?fsrc=scn/tw/te/pe/ed/followthesun Jordan is installing a 5 km² 160MW #photovoltaic #solar plant outside Ma’an; Jordan imports 96% of its #energy as fossil fuels, amounting to 10% of its GDP. China, since 2015 the biggest producer of solar energy, subsidizes PV plants, now producing 3% of its electricity; it’s expected to | 16:21 |
| xentrac_ | that bookmark is actually 1.2K | 16:21 |
| kanzure | gross, xentrac reads the news | 16:21 |
| xentrac_ | oh hey, kanzure, I just noticed I have you on my calendar | 16:22 |
| pasky | xentrac_: I think I just use google to come back to pages i need to come back to for information | 16:22 |
| xentrac_ | three months ago you claimed I was a terrible person because I didn't know enough about Bitcoin | 16:22 |
| kanzure | pasky: that's a failing strategy | 16:22 |
| kanzure | xentrac_: i am pretty sure that summary is false, surely i would have given you a far more specific reason | 16:23 |
| xentrac_ | you didn't really give any reason | 16:23 |
| xentrac_ | but it was part of a conversation about Bitcoin and what the resolution of the block size tempest in a teapot was going to be | 16:23 |
| kanzure | god damn it you fucking lied to me | 16:24 |
| kanzure | 12:44 < kanzure> your accusations of censorship are not based on physical reality and you are a terrible person | 16:24 |
| xentrac_ | and I was saying that I didn't know enough about the situation to know what was going on | 16:24 |
| xentrac_ | do you still think I'm a terrible person? I decided it wasn't worth talking to you for a while under those circumstances | 16:24 |
| kanzure | "you didn't really give any reason" | 16:24 |
| pasky | oh I remember that message! | 16:24 |
| kanzure | yeah it was a few seconds ago | 16:25 |
| xentrac_ | I mean i can give you another three months if you still think that | 16:25 |
| pasky | but - it wasn't a joke? | 16:25 |
| xentrac_ | I could totally be wrong about the censorship stuff obviously | 16:25 |
| kanzure | you are definitely wrong about the censorship stuff, i also showed you how you were wrong (i also showed you physical evidence) | 16:25 |
| xentrac_ | it seemed to me that your evidence supported the accusations of censorship, since it consisted of explanations of why such censorship would be justifiable | 16:27 |
| kanzure | i forgot that censorship is one of those magic accusations that transcends physical reality and evidence and reason | 16:27 |
| xentrac_ | which, who knows, maybe it is | 16:27 |
| xentrac_ | it's all very inside baseball to me | 16:27 |
| kanzure | literally to this day you can still do a search like "site:reddit.com/r/bitcoin xt" and find that it's totally not censored. | 16:27 |
| xentrac_ | I did at the time, and what I saw looked like the remnants after extensive censorship, but I don't really care enough about the subject to repeat the experiment | 16:28 |
| xentrac_ | I mean if I did care enough about it then I would probably know what was going on and not be pleading ignorance | 16:28 |
| xentrac_ | so I didn't fucking lie to you | 16:28 |
| kanzure | you weren't pleading ignorance you were pleading censorship | 16:28 |
| kanzure | you definitely lied to me- you told me i didn't give you a reason. i just checked the logs and found that i had. | 16:29 |
| xentrac_ | you didn't give a reason in what you just pasted above | 16:29 |
| kanzure | *shrug* there were earlier lines from that log | 16:29 |
| kanzure | you were there. | 16:29 |
| kanzure | being a terrible person isn't the end of the world, think of it as a new challenge to overcome or something, i don't know | 16:30 |
| xentrac_ | anyway, basically I don't really care about the Bitcoin XT stuff because I figure it will resolve itself one way or another without my involvement, and I don't have any special insight to bring to bear --- rather the contrary | 16:30 |
| xentrac_ | oh, so you still think I'm a terrible person, then? | 16:30 |
| kanzure | you don't care yet you still raise the flag of censorship; something ain't adding up there. yes that's completely terrible. | 16:31 |
| xentrac_ | I was saying that one of the reasons that I didn't have very good information about what was going on was that there were credible accusations of censorship pointed at the places I would usually go for information | 16:32 |
| xentrac_ | which makes them untrustworthy, even though the accusations are somewhat uncertain | 16:32 |
| xentrac_ | which means I would have to care a lot to become more informed | 16:32 |
| kanzure | it also paints your selection of information sources as extremely questionable | 16:33 |
| xentrac_ | anyway, so I'll give you another three months | 16:33 |
| xentrac_ | thanks for the feedback! | 16:33 |
| kanzure | i recommend not reading the news either. | 16:33 |
| kanzure | causes brain damage of a few kinds | 16:33 |
| xentrac_ | pasky: what wasn't a joke? no, I'm pretty sure he was serious | 16:34 |
| xentrac_ | it would be better to have scroll position and frame state and stuff like that also saved in my bookmarks file | 16:34 |
| xentrac_ | but I think the most valuable thing is actually sharing your annotations with other people, which is a lot of what people do on things like Fecebutt and Twatter | 16:35 |
| xentrac_ | full-text search is pretty great but right now my biggest problem with Google is that it's clogged with spam except when it returns a Wikipedia result | 16:36 |
| xentrac_ | which is nice when it happens, but Wikipedia is kind of shallow most of the time | 16:37 |
| xentrac_ | btw, related to fabrication technology, I found a bunch of useful information about electroplating and electroforming with copper and copper alloys (including both zinc brasses and tin bronzes) in uh | 16:38 |
| xentrac_ | the ASM Specialty Handbook "Copper and Copper Alloys" | 16:39 |
| xentrac_ | its primary source is a book by Reinhold from 1971 called the Electroplating Engineering Handbook | 16:43 |
| xentrac_ | which doesn't seem to be in libgen | 16:43 |
| xentrac_ | the interesting part to me was that it's apparently eminently practical to electroplate/electrodeposit copper at a thickness of 50 nanometers per second | 16:48 |
| xentrac_ | which might be a reasonable way of doing nanoscale 3-D printing in metal | 16:49 |
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| Jenda`_ | pasky: My classmate was shocked that I have 40 tabs open and asked how much memory it takes. Only 730 MB with JavaScript turned off. | 17:27 |
| Jenda`_ | pasky: Have you tried having bookmarks toolbar instead of tabs? | 17:27 |
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| kanzure | bookmarks toolbar ain't the same. takes too long to load anything. | 18:25 |
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| nmz787 | anyone here use flatcam? | 18:59 |
| kanzure | "Ironically, it was Boris Derjaguin's participation in the polywater debacle that caused many to dismiss him when he claimed to have synthesized diamond by chemical vapor deposition, at pressures far below the thermodynamic stability region for diamond. In fact, he was right and diamond synthesis by CVD is routine today. We probably lost about a decade of progress in diamond CVD because of Derjaguin's having been tarred with polywater, ... | 19:00 |
| kanzure | ... as it were." | 19:00 |
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| kanzure | "Abstract rule neurons in the endbrain support intelligent behaviour in corvid songbirds" http://www.nature.com/ncomms/2013/131128/ncomms3878/full/ncomms3878.html | 19:38 |
| kanzure | "Despite the lack of a layered neocortex and fundamental differences in endbrain organization in birds compared with mammals, intelligent species evolved from both vertebrate classes. Among birds, corvids show exceptional cognitive flexibility. Here we explore the neuronal foundation of corvid cognition by recording single-unit activity from an association area known as the nidopallium caudolaterale (NCL) while carrion crows make ... | 19:38 |
| kanzure | ... flexible rule-guided decisions, a hallmark of executive control functions. The most prevalent activity in NCL represents the behavioural rules, while abstracting over sample images and sensory modalities of the rule cues. Rule coding is weaker in error trials, thus predicting the crows’ behavioural decisions. This suggests that the abstraction of general principles may be an important function of the NCL, mirroring the function of ... | 19:38 |
| kanzure | ... primate prefrontal cortex. These findings emphasize that intelligence in vertebrates does not necessarily rely on a neocortex but can be realized in endbrain circuitries that developed independently via convergent evolution." | 19:39 |
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