2016-05-10.log

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kanzuremaaku: that's impossible, you're always putting us to sleep :)07:40
kanzureha ha ha07:40
* kanzure weeps07:40
kanzurehttps://github.com/internetarchive/warcprox07:42
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maakuHeh08:06
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fennscary10:32
fenna vat of hooves and bones and horns, boiled until there's nothing left but goo10:33
xentrac_I think that there's always solid stuff left when you boil bones10:40
mz_o__Yea I think youre right10:42
mz_o__Whats the vat for though?10:42
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Aurelius_Work2What do you think about the smart contracts landscape, kanzure ?11:42
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kanzureAurelius_Work2: lots of strong marketing for what's essentially just programming.... bitcoin scripts have been doing this forever. but don't tell anyone i guess.12:56
maakuAurelius_Work2: hard to say anything until you define 'smart contract'12:56
maaku(it's become a meaningless buzzword)12:56
kanzurei too have become a meaningless buzzword12:56
Aurelius_Work2What about, for example, solidity?12:57
maakuwhat is solidity?12:57
Aurelius_Work2https://ethereum.github.io/solidity/12:58
maakuAurelius_Work2: avoid anything connected to etherium12:58
Aurelius_Work2Not ethereum specifically, but the sort of smart contracts they discuss12:59
maakuAurelius_Work2: if you can find an actual example of a real world useful smart contract from that crowd that isn't an overly complex multisignature, wake me13:01
kanzurethey are willing to say essentially anything. they have some pretty syntax but that's mostly for people who can't tolerate defualt bitcoin scripting through opcodes.13:01
kanzure*default13:01
maakuAurelius_Work2: truly sorry to be snarky. this is my are of expertise and what I work on in my day job.13:07
maakuit is really interesting and there's lots of really cool stuff that can be done13:07
maakulightning network for example is one application of smart contracts with near-term utility (http://lightning.network/)13:08
maakubut much of the hype around smart contracting (DAC, DAO, etc.) is pure BS13:08
Aurelius_Work2maaku : I sort of figured. Thought I'd ask, seen people, well, buzzing13:10
kanzurebuzz buzz13:13
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kanzuremaybe meeting eleitl soon13:35
kanzureplease prepare the hand-off materials13:35
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chris_99http://technology.nasa.gov/latest/public_domain14:15
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kanzuredon't know where i saw this the other day but someone was quoted saying something like "well if technology is so great, then why aren't things more expensive? all technology that has positive use should be much more highly priced because of the efficiencies it creates".14:50
kanzurethis breaks things like stringing together multiple different technologies, because you increase the cost in aggregate of doing anything interesting....14:50
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fenni don't suppose this person has been shopping around for industrial equipment lately17:32
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kanzureunikely. it was mostly talking about home appliances. "if doing laundry quickly is such a timesaver, then these things should cost way more."17:38
c0rw1nthe fuck. "and then, someone else comes along and sells laundry machines for cheaper to capture the market" - how is that not blindingly obvious17:39
kanzureif you sell for cheaper, you have less money to grab the rest of the market :)17:41
c0rw1nyeah but then when the first one can't sell their laundry machines anymore, it bankrupts and the second one can then sell theirs for however expensive they want. until it repeats. "in capitalism, things end up priced at their marginal production costs" : that's the theory17:47
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kanzurehttps://anatomytoyou.com/2016/05/10/section-through-an-octopus-shows-the-mouth-passing-through-the-brain/19:36
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kanzureCT scan of a starfish https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-d0kHTNmkkk19:48
kanzurehttps://anatomytoyou.com/2016/01/20/giraffe-vessels/19:54
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maaku_so amazing that nearly every week there is some new AI project from a major corporation being open sourced21:48
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meeseHas anyone seen the lobster recently?22:58
fennno23:03
fennapparently he's currently active on freenode23:04
fennanyway i am asleep23:04
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