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| JayDugger | Good morning, everyone. | 06:10 |
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| kanzure | what are your demands? | 07:34 |
| kanzure | yashgaroth: btw i found another source of funding for myostatin things. if i forget to mention then you should interogate at will. | 08:02 |
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| FourFire | kanzure, chatting with edmondp, and a couple of others about getting people together to transhumanist related research or advocacy, do you have relevant thoughts about this? | 08:27 |
| FourFire | to do* | 08:28 |
| kanzure | i don't recommend academic research as a long-term hobby in the U.S. because of the glut of workers there. it's really really broken. but perhaps for a little while, perhaps for some training or something, but not for long-term career stuff. | 08:47 |
| FourFire | OK, what do you feel about introducing a bnch of people to DiY Bio? | 08:47 |
| kanzure | you learn more skils in academic labs much more quickly than in diybio. | 08:48 |
| FourFire | Ok. | 08:49 |
| kanzure | if they already have lots of resources then sure diybio is probably fine. but otherwise it takes forever for people to make anything- usually because of their lack of experience, which is usually acquired from .. academic labs. | 08:49 |
| FourFire | so is the net benefit of intridcing people to labs in a nonprofessional setting insufficient to justify the cost? | 08:50 |
| FourFire | introducing* | 08:50 |
| kanzure | no idea. | 08:50 |
| kanzure | in my experience, people in diybio don't get much done mostly because of resource reasons. if you have a bunch of equipment laying around, sure go show them i guess. | 08:51 |
| FourFire | I'm participating in a Diy Bio group at my hackerspace at present, and, right ow discussing increasing the number of people interested in actually oing something about transhumanism | 08:51 |
| kanzure | do you already have those people, or are they hypothetical people? | 08:52 |
| FourFire | Both, I'm going to meet a bunch of new students at the UiO tomorrow | 08:53 |
| FourFire | want to fish for transhumanism interested people, and go from there | 08:53 |
| FourFire | I know edmondp, my housemate, and a couple o people in Germany who are transhmanists, but uncertain about how to cordinate/what to coordinate on. | 08:54 |
| FourFire | I'm chatting with three of the latter right now on mmble | 08:54 |
| kanzure | well if you are asking for generic project ideas, | 08:55 |
| FourFire | also the rest of the DiY Bio people who've returned to more meetings might be interested, but that's ify. | 08:55 |
| kanzure | http://diyhpl.us/wiki/dna/projects/#igem-2014 | 08:55 |
| kanzure | http://diyhpl.us/wiki/genetic-modifications/ | 08:56 |
| FourFire | I'm more asking if you have any ideas for getting people to coordinate and stop being stupid, but projects ideas are nice | 08:56 |
| FourFire | (or do you think I'm wasting my time?) | 08:56 |
| kanzure | essentially you should encourage them to work on achievable short-term projects together in small groups | 08:57 |
| kanzure | and give them a bunch of examples of what those things might be | 08:57 |
| kanzure | biology and hardware projects do not seem to work very well over the web at the moment (because you need to replicate the physical setups for almost every contributor.) | 08:58 |
| FourFire | yeah I get that | 08:58 |
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| FourFire | I've asked edmondp to talk to you about this kanzure | 09:12 |
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| kanzure | Sochiro: howdy | 09:37 |
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| Sochiro | hey kanzure | 09:49 |
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| kanzure | "Miescher believed that proteins were the molecules of heredity" | 12:01 |
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| ybit_ | "on-board medical nanorobotics may eventually perform a variety of biological cellular repair and augmentation functions; smart contract DACs could track activity (including for liability purposes) and use cryptoeconomic principles to coordinate and deliver resources" | 14:02 |
| ybit_ | not sure i want that future :) | 14:02 |
| ybit_ | from https://hack.ether.camp/#/idea/bio-nano-dac | 14:02 |
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| chris_99 | anyone seen this - http://www.opensurgery.net/ | 16:12 |
| chris_99 | i can't seem to find the specs etc. though atm | 16:12 |
| chris_99 | oh i can see a video now, their website is rather confusing | 16:13 |
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| maaku | FourFire maybe some work on open source lab automation? | 17:11 |
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| maaku | If we had a programmable wet lab in a box with the usability of consumer 3d printers, that would go a long way towards making remote collaboration possible | 17:14 |
| CaptHindsight | and avoids the use of dunio, marlin, GRBL and other crap | 17:28 |
| fenn | grbl is fine for pipette automation | 17:38 |
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| nmz787_ | .tell chris_99 I think I ended up using this when I couldn't figure out sigrok, or maybe I only thought I would try to use it: http://inincs.github.io/pyNCS/general/pyosc.html | 23:02 |
| yoleaux | nmz787_: I'll pass your message to chris_99. | 23:02 |
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