2016-08-15.log

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kanzure.tw https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/76521097762537062409:19
yoleaux186Mb archive of apparent NSA malware released: https://mega.nz/#!zEAU1AQL!oWJ63n-D6lCuCQ4AY0Cv_405hX8kn7MEsa1iLH5UjKU password=theequationgroup More info: http://github.com/theshadowbrokers/EQGRP-AUCTION/ (@wikileaks)09:19
kanzurei was reading through those files the other day and was not able to come to a conclusion as to whether i think it's equation group's work09:19
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kanzure(tomorrow i think) http://www.sens.org/outreach/rejuvenation-biotechnology-conference-2016/live-stream10:23
kanzurehttp://www.sens.org/outreach/rejuvenation-biotechnology-conference-2016/event-program-speakers10:23
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kanzure"Give everyone access to AI. If everyone already has access, then there will be no big jackpot to steal. If everyone else has access to AI, too, then taking one over wouldn't buy you any power. This is a paradigm shift from what you guys are suggesting, and would require that much of this is gone about in a different way. At first it looks like this would exacerbate security problems - won't people use them for bad purposes? Of course. ...11:09
kanzure... But if EVERYONE has access, that won't be any scarier than a situation in which a gunman wants to take over, and everyone else has a gun. You can't take over a room group of equally armed people. Imagine taking out a gun in a room full of people with guns. You'll end up getting shot - you won't be taking over. One AI can't take over a world full of AI. Distributing the power everywhere would prevent many security problems ranging ...11:09
kanzure... from deterring criminals from committing crimes (and limiting the damage criminals can do) to checking and balancing big powers to prevent tyranny to preventing the corruption of good people that may otherwise happen if they're given too much power"11:09
kanzure(a cute sentiment, but their argument is usually "well the other AI is better at doing AI things, so therefore it doesn't matter and we must stop everyone before any AI at all")11:09
kanzurehttp://lesswrong.com/r/discussion/lw/dq9/work_on_security_instead_of_friendliness/11:09
kanzurehttp://extropians.weidai.com/extropians.3Q97/4356.html11:10
kanzurere: https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/4xnhgj/sometimes_i_wonder_if_all_these_hard_fork_posts/d6hfogr11:10
kanzurehttp://lesswrong.com/lw/2b7/hacking_the_cev_for_fun_and_profit/11:11
kanzure22:25 < kanzure> jrayhawk: that wei dai would fuck up the "we're totally not trying to take over the world" party line is evidence that perhaps your party line is too complex for even wei dai to comprehend and regurgitate.11:11
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kanzure"hmm this crypto stuff might interfere with my allegience to friendliness" - what went through wei dai's head while he was having a stroke of unimaginable proportions11:57
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mz_o_"One AI can't take over a world full of AI"12:43
mz_o_Thats becaause a world full of AI can take over the world12:43
mz_o_However the thought of distributed AI is really interesting12:44
mz_o_kanzure: I agree that it would deter criminals, but do you think it would be effective?12:46
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kanzuremz_o_: i don't share their goals. not interested.13:05
kanzurerejuvenation biotech conference actual streaming link (for tomorrow in about 23 hours) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=56YExhTuKgw13:19
kanzure"lightning network deep dive" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_szGaaPPFk13:40
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maakumz_o_: distributed AI is something I'm on/off working on15:02
maakuI don't see how making AI distributed helps 'friendliness' in any way15:02
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maakuhttps://www.quora.com/session/Fran%C3%A7ois-Chollet/115:22
maakuAMA with author of Keras15:23
kanzure"approximately how much do people suck at writing code in this industry?"15:23
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gnushahttps://secure.diyhpl.us/cgit/diyhpluswiki/commit/?id=93520109 Michael Grube: test' >> 16:04
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dupermaaku: is there much overlap between distributed AI and swarm intelligence?16:33
maakuyes16:33
duperwasn't sure because of the lack of physical proximity16:33
dupermaaku: what else what would be considered distributed AI besides personal assistants?16:34
dupere.g. Cortana, Siri, etc.16:34
maakuthe architecture that I've envisioned is probably best described as collaborative AI, where each node spends some time sharing problems and solutions with others16:35
dupermaaku: there's an open source project for drone software that takes over other drones with wireless hacking and such16:35
maakubut that language is a bit anthropomorphized -- swarm intelligence might be more accurate16:35
maakuduper: I don't mean distributed AI in the distributed cognition sense16:36
duperhttp://samy.pl/skyjack16:37
duperah, my only AI experience is from PDP++ of "Computational Explorations in Cognitive Neuroscience"16:39
duperwell, at least with a strict definition of AI16:40
duperdoes anyone here own ChaiBio's new dual-channel/real-time OpenPCR units?16:41
kanzurei thought they were pearl biotech inc16:45
kanzureor was that the transilluminator only.. hrm.16:45
kanzuremaaku: proposal time?16:48
duperkanzure, nope.. it's ChaiBio that sells the new ones, but Tito Jankowski from Pearl did help create the original OpenPCR before ChaiBio came into the picture17:18
duperAnother cool site is the-odin.com .. they're selling affordable DIY CRISPR kits17:19
kanzurehaha they got rid of tito. awesome.17:19
kanzurevindication.jpg17:20
duperkanzure: i don't know if that's how it played out, heh.17:20
kanzurewhat other hardware are you looking at?17:22
duperkanzure: nothing really.. I already have the original OpenPCR.. just wanted an opinion on the dual-channel qPCR cuz I thinking about buying it17:31
duperunless there's something else out there in the same price range that does qPCR17:32
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kanzurefenn: vinay gupta has left ethereum foundation because of the hard-forks and has gone back to hexayurt things https://www.reddit.com/r/BurningMan/comments/4xqqt6/hexayurt_guy_ama_i_invented_the_hexayurt_anything/d6hsa8t18:42
kanzure( https://hexayurt-capital.typeform.com/to/lV91Mv )18:43
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kanzurehrm21:05
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nmz787_duper: any interest in making your own equipment?23:18
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