2016-08-25.log

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boneBonepoplooking for Billy V. Koen00:56
boneBonepopkanzure: you took ME205, right?01:01
fennquite likely01:03
boneBonepopI've been trying to hunt down some of the ME205 clips from when it used clips of Billy V. Koen01:05
boneBonepopessentially the source materials used to make http://matlabmadness.ytmnd.com/01:05
fennwell good luck with that01:08
fennsix years is a decade in internet dog years01:08
boneBonepopwell http://www.me.utexas.edu/~me205/unit03/index.html is still up, though it requires a password and a lot of the assets are missing01:09
boneBonepopbut I can't find any information on if they ever updated the material or anything so even then it might be pointless01:10
boneBonepopFound this place because some guys were talking about it ~200901:12
fennyeah me and kanzure and genehacker were in ME in various capacities01:12
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fenn"Humanity is not the last rung of the terrestrial creation. Evolution continues and man will be surpassed. It is for each individual to know whether he wants to participate in the advent of this new species.01:47
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mosasaurhttps://expatriate.pl/first-polish-patient-wakes-coma-due-brain-stimulator-implant/04:14
mosasaurI wonder if this could work similarly to tcds https://i.reddit.com/r/tDCS/, but now using ultrasound04:14
mosasaursome time ago I discussed using ultrasound for directly stimulating the cochlea and balance sense organs here04:16
mosasaurwe got districted by using similar ideas for directly imprinting 3D shapes in suitable printer materials IIRC04:17
mosasauralso the general atmosphere was like: "what, you want to stimulate the most sensitive auditory organ with ultrasound ?!"04:18
mosasaurlike shining lasers into the eyes04:19
mosasaurbut, as it turns out, one can 'paint' the inside of the eyes with suitable lasers to project images on the retina04:20
mosasaurso, wouldn't ultrasound, if it works this way, be a useful addition to a home tool set for brain stimulation?04:22
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kanzurei don't remember that webpage. IIRC, i was put into some class about "how to use excel" which i promptly walked out of.06:51
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kanzurehrmph09:01
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kanzure"Can aging be programmed? A critical literature review" http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/acel.12510/abstract09:50
kanzure"The evolution of the aging process has long been a biological riddle, because it is difficult to explain the evolution of a trait that has apparently no benefit to the individual. Over 60 years ago, Medawar realized that the force of natural selection declines with chronological age because of unavoidable environmental risks. This forms the basis of the mainstream view that aging arises as a consequence of a declining selection pressure ...09:50
kanzure... to maintain the physiological functioning of living beings forever. Over recent years, however, a number of articles have appeared that nevertheless propose the existence of specific aging genes; that is, that the aging process is genetically programmed. If this view were correct, it would have serious implications for experiments to understand and postpone aging. Therefore, we studied in detail various specific proposals why aging ...09:50
kanzure... should be programmed. We find that not a single one withstands close scrutiny of its assumptions or simulation results. Nonprogrammed aging theories based on the insight of Medawar (as further developed by Hamilton and Charlesworth) are still the best explanation for the evolution of the aging process. We hope that this analysis helps to clarify the problems associated with the idea of programmed aging."09:50
andytoshiinteresting, i suppose stuff like "old people take their kids' food" is included in these programming theories09:55
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kanzurehttps://blog.lookout.com/blog/2016/08/25/trident-pegasus/10:36
archels_.title https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1ucxoKyiZI10:38
yoleauxFather.IO - Real Life First Person Shooter - YouTube10:38
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JayDuggerGood afternoon.10:45
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kanzurehttp://www.coindesk.com/cryptographer-voldemort-bitcoin-scaling/11:01
JayDuggerYes, and you get a mention in that article.11:01
JayDuggerDid they correctly quote you?11:02
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kanzuresomewhat; the quote about talking about voldemort in speech was actually me quoting andytoshi from a podcast, but they have attributed that to me. it's true that i said the same line, but i was relaying that someone else had made the remark.11:03
andytoshiinteresting that that never hit the front page of coindesk (nothing has since aug 20)11:19
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JayDuggerUm...if you say so, andytoshi. Coindesk.com's web page shows me a 2016-08-25 story as the most recent one with a date, and Mimblewimble is one page down below.11:23
andytoshii do say so11:23
andytoshi'Aug 20, 2016' is the most recent article11:23
kanzurecache problems11:24
__mz_o maybe cached page? thats weird11:24
andytoshioh, i enabled then disabled scripting, and now there are new articles11:24
kanzuretwo hardest problems in computer science: cache invalidation, naming things, and off-by-one errors11:24
andytoshihaha11:24
andytoshipretty sad that a news website can't get its cache shit straight11:24
JayDuggerOkay, I am tired. I had to read that joke twice.11:25
kanzureunfortunately it's not a joke! :(11:25
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JayDuggerWhat's a good example of the naming things problem? Wait, let me search that for myself.11:29
kanzuregood example, yeah. if naming things was easy you would have been able to come up with the name of the thing to look for.11:30
JayDuggerThank you for the compliment, but that really hadn't occurred to me. I did search for "computer science naming things error," which did a good enough job of naming the problem to return useful hits. Pure luck it worked, I suppose.11:33
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JayDuggerYour explanation makes sense now.11:33
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maakufenn: Interesting. thank you12:25
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maakulibrary doesn't carry it. annoying.12:36
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kanzuresaurik: you were featured in today's #bitcoin-core-dev meeting :)12:49
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nsh.tw https://twitter.com/OpenTrons_/status/76852358493962649713:38
yoleauxone-fifth of all papers about genes contain typos due to an Excel default setting that converts gene names to dates. http://www.slate.com/blogs/future_tense/2016/08/24/excel_created_major_typos_in_20_percent_of_scientific_papers_on_genes.html (@OpenTrons_)13:38
nshscience!13:38
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archels_https://github.com/gilbo/cork/issues/2614:12
boneBonepop"WARNING: Unfortunately, there are a number of known problems with Cork. I have zero time to work on the library since I'm currently busy working on a thesis. (March 2016) If you would like to pay me large sums of money to improve this library, maybe we should talk. Otherwise, I'm really quite sorry to say I don't have time." kek14:22
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saurikkanzure: I imagine for something annoying and characteristic, as opposed to something interesting or useful?14:45
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maakuyour ios code signing stuff got ported to work for osx binaries, which bitcoin core will use as part of its release process15:07
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kanzuresaurik: (see above)16:10
kanzuresaurik: bitcoin core has some strong release process requirements- like distributed deterministic builds plus everyone signs and everyone veifies the hashes and the signatures16:13
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saurikmaaku: my ios codesigning stuff has always worked with osx binaries16:28
saurik(there is no difference between ios codesigning and osx codesigning)16:28
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maakuI'm just the messenger16:31
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saurikmaaku: so, I just spent a bunch of time making certain I didn't miss anything via IRC, and I've also checked e-mail. were they intending to tell me anything? I am kind of in shock that of all projects, bitcoin, another open source project, is now continuing the pattern of "we found something mysterious that we fixed that we don't bother mentioning directly to upstream"16:54
maakusaurik: I don't know? I've literally told you everything I know. Here's the meeting minutes : http://www.erisian.com.au/meetbot/bitcoin-core-dev/2016/bitcoin-core-dev.2016-08-25-19.02.html16:57
maakuhttps://github.com/theuni/osx-codesign/commits/master16:57
saurikOMFG I hate this generation of open source people16:58
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saurikmaaku: regardless, thanks for telling me :/17:00
maakusorry :(17:01
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kanzuresaurik: i pinged you because you're upstream, bitcoin core doesn't have any actual official organization that should be pinging you, it's just a bunch of people hanging out on irc doing stuff. so i pinged about it.18:53
kanzureirc seems like a reasonable way to inform upstream :)18:55
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saurikkanzure: "hey, I guess you didn't notice, but earlier this year apple introduced some new sha256 extensions to CodeDirectory that should probably be integrated into ldid; and when we tried to sign an osx binary bundle, ldid didn't work, as the resource rules probably need to be different. I can (and will) start working on patches for these, but maybe you have some direction and no matter what I thought you should know"19:34
saurikkanzure: vs. "ldid didn't work, so we published a public fork on github. we changed the name of the project, as our patch to fix these two bugs makes the project very different: now it is osx-codesign instead of ldid. let's have meetings about it, and maybe someone will mumble something at saurik at some point that we are using his code"19:35
saurikkanzure: (to be clear, I'm really glad you and maaku let me know something was happening. I'm just unhappy that the state of the world is no longer "let's coordinate with the person whose code, because talking to people and working together is fun and that way the tool can be better for everyone" instead of "ugh, it didn't work, I'll halfass a patch and publish the result, as the goal is somehow just that the code is open in theory")19:49
saurikperson whose code -> person (or people) whose code we are using19:49
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gene_hacker2016 NIAC symposium presentations: http://livestream.com/viewnow/NIAC201620:47
kanzurewhich ones should i type up20:48
gene_hackerPhilip lubin's talk is interesting20:55
kanzure"plasmonic force propulsion"?20:59
kanzure"Tensegrity Approaches to In-Space Construction of a 1g Growable Habitat"21:00
kanzure"Gadgets, Widgets, and Contraptions: Technology Needs for Astrobiology"21:00
kanzure"Reconstituting Asteroids into Mechanical Automata"21:01
kanzure"Venus Interior Probe Using In-situ Power and Propulsion (VIP-INSPR)"21:01
kanzure"Advancing Torpor Inducing Transfer Habitats for Human Stasis to Mars;"21:01
kanzureoh i was reading it wrong. it is "Directed Energy for Interstellar Study".21:03
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ybitcan't recall if i've shared it, so i'm sharing again because the chart is worth it: http://kevinmahoney.co.uk/articles/tests-vs-types/21:24
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