2016-09-06.log

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JayDuggerHuh.06:11
JayDuggerThanks, ybit.06:16
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gnushahttps://secure.diyhpl.us/cgit/diyhpluswiki/commit/?id=5168f63a Bryan Bishop: add a reference for balloon hashing >> http://diyhpl.us/diyhpluswiki/transcripts/2016-july-bitcoin-developers-miners-meeting/dan-boneh/07:02
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kanzuremusic https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHoGFB6tsXI&t=25m50s07:36
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ybitmaking note of http://gittup.org/tup/10:08
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ybitkanzure: thanks for the music11:55
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gnushahttps://secure.diyhpl.us/cgit/diyhpluswiki/commit/?id=a5777707 Bryan Bishop: fix typo about weir pairings >> http://diyhpl.us/diyhpluswiki/transcripts/simons-institute/pairing-cryptography/14:09
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chris_99interesting they're apparently going to actually test the EM Drive in space soon14:18
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abetusk.title http://www.digitopoly.org/2016/08/31/ten-open-questions-for-the-techno-optimist/14:50
yoleauxDigitopoly | Ten Open Questions for the Techno-Optimist14:50
fennchris_99: does it merit such a test?15:11
chris_99if it turns out it does actually work sure15:16
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kanzuren55 is still around. now that vinay gupta is quitting ethereum, maybe he'll go hang out with them.16:18
kanzurebut they are doing gridbeam things16:18
kanzurestalk: elkinsdiy16:22
kanzurehttp://www.elkinsdiy.com/micro-survival-gear/16:23
kanzurehttp://www.elkinsdiy.com/mobile-shelters/micro-airstream-bike-camper/16:25
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kanzurehttp://luis.labfab.cc/16:36
kanzureabove is avida developer plus someone doing open-source hardware microfluidics things16:38
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ybithttp://www.crypto.com/blog/celltapping/ .title16:47
ybit.title16:47
yoleauxMatt Blaze: How Law Enforcement Tracks Cellular Phones16:47
ybit#random16:47
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kanzurehttp://adamilab.msu.edu/publications/16:52
kanzure"Does self-replication imply evolvability?" http://adamilab.msu.edu/wp-content/uploads/Labaretal2015.pdf16:53
kanzure"Information-theoretic considerations concerning the origin of life" http://adamilab.msu.edu/wp-content/uploads/Adami2015b.pdf16:54
kanzure"The evolution of logic circuits for the purpose of protein contact map prediction" https://peerj.com/preprints/2197/16:55
kanzure"Evolvability tradeoffs in emergent digital replicators" http://arxiv.org/abs/1511.0795916:55
kanzure"Different evolutionary paths to complexity for small and large populations of digital organisms" https://arxiv.org/abs/1604.0629916:56
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kanzure"Evolved virtual creatures at content: Increasing behavioral and morphological complexity" http://apps.cs.utexas.edu/tech_reports/reports/tr/TR-2185.pdf17:24
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kanzure"The obvious downside of such a design approach is that most simulations in TIERRA end due to premature convergence (Adami and Brown 1994) – i.e. the system reaches stable states with ease, but it does so without developing much adaptation and diversity. Most stable states are blunt cases of stalling due to full memory occupation."17:33
kanzureabove is from "Issues in modeling open-ended evolution"17:37
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kanzurebunch of papers on "open-ended evolution" http://www.tim-taylor.com/oee2/17:43
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kanzurehttp://www.tim-taylor.com/oee1/17:47
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kanzurenot sure what to do about those complexity ceilings in evolutionary simulators17:57
kanzuremaybe co-evolution of simulator and organisms17:57
kanzurefrom what i can tell there's often a limit on novel phenotypes and biodiversity17:58
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kanzurensh: there needs to be an information theoretic measurement of potential for complexity18:14
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ybithttp://www.tim-taylor.com/oee2/abstracts/stepney-oee2-submission-revised.pdf21:36
ybit"The longer answer, however, is that they probably cannot21:36
ybitexhibit OE, i.e. the continual production of open-ended21:36
ybitevents. The reason is that the code, conforming to the fixed21:36
ybitmodel, cannot directly exploit the (scientifically modelled)21:36
ybitinnovations and emergents. I"21:36
ybitif the game of life is turing complete, then surely this isn't true?21:37
ybithttp://algorithmicbotany.org/papers/21:40
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fennybit: this paul elkins guy must have been reading my mind23:17
fennoops that was kanzure's link, nm23:18
fennsee also "oru kayak" for the needlessly expensive version of the coroplast kayak23:19
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