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| fenn | the stanford neurogrid group is definitely going for more of a "simulate neurons in silicon" approach | 00:04 |
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| fenn | whereas i'm talking about "do artificial neural networks close to the metal" | 00:04 |
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| fenn | i dont remember anyone mentioning "movidius myriad 2 vision processing unit" now available as a 2W USB stick called "fathom", for doing mobile neural network tasks: http://www.tomshardware.com/news/movidius-fathom-neural-compute-stick,31694.html | 01:10 |
| fenn | 1.2 watt | 01:11 |
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| fenn | eh, not available yet | 01:15 |
| fenn | only if you ask them really nicely | 01:27 |
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| kanzure | is that like "ask for price" | 06:06 |
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| kanzure | https://breakingmalware.com/injection-techniques/atombombing-brand-new-code-injection-for-windows/ | 06:22 |
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| wrldpc1 | ping | 08:14 |
| wrldpc1 | attempting to track down BS 8611 from the British Standards Institute. | 08:14 |
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| wrldpc1 | .link http://www.bsigroup.com/en-GB/about-bsi/media-centre/press-releases/2016/april/-Standard--highlighting-the-ethical-hazards-of-robots-is-published/ | 08:15 |
| wrldpc1 | hmm | 08:15 |
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| ybit_ | .title https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agcRwGDKulw | 09:58 |
| yoleaux | The Death Star Architect Speaks Out - YouTube | 09:59 |
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| kanzure | http://wiki.c2.com/?CargoCultProgramming | 10:22 |
| kanzure | "reviewer declares you did not construct your bamboo radar antenna to the correct shape" sounds like a real antenna problem to me | 10:22 |
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| kanzure | weird, this page doesn't actually include the cargo cult stories. | 10:24 |
| * kanzure tries https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cargo_cult_programming | 10:24 | |
| kanzure | "apparent solution (compare shotgun debugging, deep magic).[1]" | 10:25 |
| kanzure | deepest magic | 10:25 |
| kanzure | "The Jargon File makes a distinction[5] between deep magic, which refers to code based on esoteric theoretical knowledge, and black magic, which refers to code based on techniques that appear to work but which lack a theoretical explanation. It also defines heavy wizardry, which refers to code based on obscure or undocumented intricacies of particular hardware or software." | 10:26 |
| kanzure | synthetic human genome project (hgp-write) draft timeline http://engineeringbiologycenter.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/GP-Write_WhitePaper.pdf | 10:52 |
| kanzure | huh there is a lot of content in there. hrm. | 10:55 |
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| kanzure | tweeter thread https://twitter.com/kanzure/status/792789514313953284 | 12:09 |
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| kanzure | "An average of 11%-13.4% of cell-free DNA in maternal blood is of fetal origin, although this varies widely amongst patients.[3" | 12:17 |
| kanzure | "cffDNA diminishes quickly after the birth of the baby, so that it is no longer detectable in the maternal blood approximately 2 hours after birth.[6]" | 12:18 |
| kanzure | "cffDNA is significantly smaller than the maternal DNA in the bloodstream, with fragments approximately 200bp in size" | 12:18 |
| kanzure | well that's useful. | 12:18 |
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| kanzure | so they say they want a 1,000x reduction in dna synthesis cost, but 1,000x reduction only gets you from $40 million/bacterial genome to ... $40k/genome. that's still absurdly high. needs to be $0.01/genome or less. | 12:23 |
| kanzure | at least a handful of other technologies have had 7 order of magnitude improvements so according to kurzweilian thinking, .... heh. | 12:24 |
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| fenn | did ward cunningham do this stupid javasscript thing just to frustrate web scrapers? | 14:41 |
| fenn | he was complaining about always being on the edge of his data cap, and network traffic was slow | 14:41 |
| fenn | they dropped the "human" from genome project? | 14:44 |
| fenn | but we've already written genomes | 14:44 |
| fenn | just not a human genome | 14:44 |
| kanzure | sbp was complaining about this today | 14:45 |
| kanzure | 10:25 <+sbp> looks like here: var database = 'http://c2.com/wiki/remodel/pages/' | 14:45 |
| kanzure | 10:26 <+sbp> and then a Google Analytics link right at the bottom just to cap it all off | 14:45 |
| kanzure | 10:26 <+sbp> that's the cherry on the dog shit (ah, right!) right there | 14:46 |
| kanzure | 10:27 <+kanzure> swhackians have 2700 words for dogshit and they al start with w3 | 14:46 |
| kanzure | 10:27 <+sbp> perhaps I can file an issue against https://github.com/WardCunningham/remodeling | 14:46 |
| kanzure | 10:28 <+sbp> "entire redesign is dog shit. please fix" | 14:46 |
| kanzure | 10:29 <+dpk> wiki.c2.com has been much verschlimmbessert in the last few weeks by the addition of JAVASCRIPT | 14:46 |
| kanzure | 10:29 <+sbp> here's the explanation: "So why close? It gives me room to work. The continuous scraping bumps up against my web throttling making all other web services useless. Even shell is painfully slow." — http://c2.com/wiki/closed.html | 14:46 |
| kanzure | 10:29 <+sbp> bots were hitting it too hard it appears | 14:46 |
| kanzure | 10:29 <+sbp> 2016, the year bots ruined what was left of the web | 14:46 |
| kanzure | 10:30 <+sbp> but, I mean, he could have just written a better server side application | 14:46 |
| kanzure | 10:30 <+dpk> yeah, i think it was a perl CGI script | 14:46 |
| kanzure | 10:30 <+dpk> so just run it under OpenBSD's slowcgi | 14:46 |
| kanzure | 10:30 <+dpk> solv't | 14:46 |
| kanzure | 10:31 <+sbp> also the pages could have been baked instead of fried | 14:46 |
| kanzure | and: | 14:47 |
| kanzure | 10:34 <+dpk> Cunningham has been on the JavaScript train for a while | 14:47 |
| kanzure | 10:34 <+sbp> it's like seeing people you admired on the TV in the 1990s who were absolute stars tweet about what their dog just barfed up | 14:47 |
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| adlai | (6) address the ethical, legal and social issues that arise from the project | 15:41 |
| kanzure | can we move on now | 15:45 |
| kanzure | oops | 15:45 |
| * kanzure marks the checkbox | 15:45 | |
| kanzure | *now* we can move on | 15:45 |
| kanzure | re: dropping "human", no, it's still called "hgp-write" | 15:46 |
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| adlai | but hgp-write is just a part of gp-write | 16:02 |
| adlai | (according to end of page 9) | 16:02 |
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| kanzure | some mumblings about asyncio in python 3.5/3.6 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12829759 | 16:39 |
| kanzure | ( http://lucumr.pocoo.org/2016/10/30/i-dont-understand-asyncio/ ) | 16:39 |
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| superkuh | Cunningham deleted my issue about the lack of accessibility without JS. | 20:54 |
| superkuh | But he did fix the implementation bug that was the first part of my issue. | 20:54 |
| superkuh | So now it at least works in FF <43. | 20:55 |
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| fenn | "The natives, having seen white people arriving on ships loaded with Cargo, interpreted this as ghosts returning at the end of time with gifts for the living, initiating a new beginning, and a new existential reality. This was their ancient prophetic vision of the end time. Consequently, they believed all the usual rules of society were obsolete. They put on their best clothes, slaughtered their | 23:20 |
| fenn | pigs, engaged in orgiastic behavior, and just generally sat around the fire, drinking Kava, awaiting the end of the End or the new Beginning." | 23:20 |
| fenn | certainly casts a new light on cargo cult mentality | 23:20 |
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