2008-08-11.log:21:41 < fenn> artificial womb needs an artificial heart, glandular system, kidneys, etc etc
2008-08-11.log:21:41 < kanzure> artificial womb is just a tank sort of
2008-08-11.log:21:44 < bkero> Autonomous sacs of organs for an artificial womb. :P
2008-08-11.log:22:06 < fenn> hey kanzure we could lobby conservative anti-abortionists to develop artificial wombs, the rationale being that unwilling mothers wouldnt have to kill their fetuses
2008-08-11.log:22:10 < fenn> raised in an artificial womb
2008-08-19.log:07:37 < bkero> kanzure: Have you successfully made an artificial womb yet?  If not, why?
2008-08-19.log:07:43 < bkero> kanzure: Have you tried your hand at artificial wombs yet?
2008-09-12.log:10:14 < kanzure> in feasible terms this goes back to the notes on artificial wombs, dna synthesizers and other various projects to try to "enclose the supply chain" 
2008-11-11.log:12:10 < kanzure_> EricWheelman_: If I had my way with stem cells, I'd be interested in pursuing some artificial womb work and tissue engineering. Professionals have been able to do this under highly constrained conditions, it's just a matter of being able to put some of the pieces together, figure out the right formulas for womb liquids, etc.
2008-11-11.log:12:17 < kanzure_> There are some uses of artificial wombs, such as automated cloning over a longer lifetime than women live or productively reproduce. It's not meant to be a replacement for women, or to keep them from pain or silly things like that (that's what anesthetics are for).
2008-11-11.log:21:45 < kanzure_> xp_prg: Yeah, look at my bookmarks on artificial wombs.
2008-11-11.log:21:46 < kanzure_> Kuwabara's research in Japan did some artificial wombs.
2008-11-23.log:05:33 < kanzure> Still working on that whole, uh, artificial womb thing.
2009-03-09.log:23:57  * kanzure hides his artificial womb under his bed.
2009-08-08.log:17:51 < kanzure> search also for "artificial womb" and "artificial uterus"
2009-08-08.log:17:55 < kanzure> however there are not many people working on artificial wombs or verifying formulae for wombs
2012-02-20.log:14:53 < _sol_> er likew a artificial womb
2012-03-01.log:12:50 < Stee|> (I'm not pro-abortion, I'm pro-putting fetuses into artificial wombs)
2014-06-28.log:11:51 < mokstar> artificial wombs would protected, because they wouldn't be running around outside, breathing the air, touching things, and consuming food
2014-06-28.log:11:52 < mokstar> one about japanese robot dolls, who have artificial wombs installed
2014-06-28.log:11:53 < mokstar> they use the artificial wombs too, but only out of convenience rather than necessity
2014-11-28.log:12:47 < kanzure> to make an artificial womb that works you really really need to study existing wombs and pregnancies
2015-05-19.log:08:57 < wrldpc> There’s also the artificial womb option as well ..
2015-05-30.log:16:47  * fenn mumbles something about artificial wombs
2015-07-19.log:13:35 < fenn> to say nothing of artificial wombs
2017-08-16.log:21:18 < mrdata> did they use an artificial womb as well?
2017-08-16.log:21:21 < fenn> artificial wombs are even more so
2017-08-22.log:21:36 < maaku> (artificial womb + dna synthesis + synthetic biology)
2018-01-21.log:17:41 < maaku> but in general i think there's A LOT we don't know about the gestation process which could help, and having artificial wombs would help control that environmental factor
2018-01-21.log:17:42 < maaku> you joked about gay babies, but with an artificial womb it really would be a setting you'd configure ... once we figure out how it all works
2018-01-21.log:17:51 < JayDugger> maaku, "you joked about gay babies, but with an artificial womb it really would be a setting you'd configure ... once we figure out how it all works"
2018-03-09.log:11:59 < kanzure> i've figured out how to make artificial wombs work
2018-03-09.log:12:32 < kanzure> you can also upsell this as a product (even without the artificial womb) where you have 50-100 potential progeny and you simply select the most healthy at the end anyway.
2018-03-09.log:12:32 < kanzure> (e.g. with surrogacy, which doesn't use an artificial womb of course)
2018-03-09.log:14:16 < TMA> kanzure: While I can easily imagine the utility of artificial wombs for producing test subjects, I have to point out that the world does not need any new means to produce more specimens of homo sapiens sapiens, there are already more than enough traditionally-produced to cause problems.
2018-03-14.log:20:01 < fenn> what's the difference between an artificial womb and an artificial egg?
2018-12-03.log:19:23 < fenn> since the fetus is a drug and the woman is the patient to whom the drug is being given, that means you can bring a fetus to term in an artificial womb without any legal troubles
2022-05-11.log:16:10 < saxo> I learned yesterday there are four different teams making serious attempts to form artificial womb startups. // Very cool times! (@mattkrisiloff)
2022-06-02.log:04:09 < kanzure> here is a short story about artificial wombs from someone (seems a little boring to me, but i don't think it's trying to be non-boring?) https://docs.google.com/document/d/10qaBFOWYVJPVWMq9rMJ3wFX3hDns7-_XHnlouj1S5so/edit
2023-01-05.log:15:22 < kanzure> yea but the artificial womb stuff would go a lot better if someone had any kind of external egg that developed an animal
2023-02-08.log:18:57 < kanzure> ex vivo human uterus seems to be the most likely path for artificial wombs
2023-02-08.log:19:00 < kanzure> yeah i was trying to think about artificial wombs and i forgot why everyone wants them
2023-02-08.log:19:01 < kanzure> the best i can think of to support artificial wombs is relieving the suffering of women who would suffer under pregnancy
2023-02-08.log:19:01 < kanzure> is there another major motivation for artificial wombs?
2023-02-08.log:19:02 < kanzure> and artificial wombs would presumably be more on-demand available
2023-02-08.log:19:11 < fenn> breast ridesharing was routinely a thing through history, and would be needed for artificial womb babies
2023-02-08.log:19:14 < kanzure> a lot of the artificial womb work and sci-fi seems to stop at artificial placentas or something, instead of just taking an entire human uterus
2023-02-08.log:19:20 < fenn> oh, gay couples might want an artificial womb
2023-02-08.log:19:23 < fenn> what's your point? pro-life advocates will use artificial wombs to bring otherwise unviable fetuses to term?
2023-02-08.log:19:34 < kanzure> anyway, for artificial wombs, you need the embryo to implant and grow the umbilical cord and such
2023-08-09.log:10:45 < hprmbridge> alonzoc> Well kanzure is on their way to make a GMO army using artificial wombs it seems after first killing off human fertility...
2023-08-09.log:10:45 < muurkha> yeah, both artificial wombs and multiple pregnancies are plausible interventions
2023-08-24.log:16:10 < fenn> would anti-abortion groups fund artificial womb technology?
2023-08-24.log:16:28 < hprmbridge> kanzure> start lobbying now for artificial womb raised humanoids to be designated human
2023-08-29.log:15:08 < hprmbridge> kanzure> FDA calling for rulemaking on artificial wombs https://www.fda.gov/advisory-committees/advisory-committee-calendar/pediatric-advisory-committee-meeting-announcement-09192023 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37308675
2023-08-29.log:15:30 < hprmbridge> kanzure> looks like they are still focusing on artificial wombs for extremely premature fetuses, and not for whole fetal lidecycle development
2023-08-29.log:15:40 < fenn> the problem with fully external artificial wombs is you have to do *everything* meaning a large array of machinery with different blood filtering functions, and where are you going to get that blood from anyway
2023-08-29.log:16:01 < hprmbridge> kanzure> I think artificial wombs are going to be somewhat easy. although I see lots of bizarre tech choices being discussed like late term transfer to an artificial womb, and synthetic placentas or whatever...
2023-09-16.log:10:57 < hprmbridge> Eli> lamb in an artificial womb: https://media.nature.com/lw767/magazine-assets/d41586-023-02901-1/d41586-023-02901-1_26040880.gif?as=webp
2023-10-31.log:13:46 < fenn> should i make more pictures of artificial womb systems? a strategy of angry mob desensitization through repeated exposure?
2024-01-01.log:16:58 <+gnusha> https://secure.diyhpl.us/cgit/diyhpluswiki/commit/?id=13c7e5f8 Bryan Bishop: add artificial wombs >> http://diyhpl.us/diyhpluswiki/hplusroadmap/