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06:44 < dr-orlovsky> This PR adds Display/FromStr for PSBTs (using Bech64) and has all requested changes addressed: https://github.com/rust-bitcoin/rust-bitcoin/pull/557
06:46 < dr-orlovsky> Writing about it here since GitHub by mistake says "Requested changes must be addressed to merge this pull request." which is not the case (it just needs re-ACKs + apoelstra review after I have addressed all previous concerns)
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09:15 < ariard> darosior: a naive implementation would be when you get confirmation of the transaction, so not upper bound
09:16 < darosior> ouch
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09:26 < BlueMatt> darosior: what do you mean "ouch"? its a pretty fee-optimal stragegy, you just have to have confidence you aren't being censored
09:27 < BlueMatt> iirc petertodd does this for his timestamping service, to great success.
09:32 < darosior> Yes, interesting. Don't know it seemed kind of dangerous to me but, yes, thinking it through that's what you'd be doing even with a fee estimator i guess
09:34 < darosior> i was also overlooking the 'slowly' part..
09:39 < ariard> you have to consider the non-pleasing alternative of completely losing the stake, game-theory threatening to burn everything is better
09:39 < ariard> and in fact we already do this for RL backend, fee-bump will increase by 25% from last attempt if feerate hasn't changed
09:49 < darosior> Interesting, didn't start choosing numbers for Revault yet. Any reason for 25% ? How do you vary it wrt to new fee estimation after a new block is connected ?
09:50 < BlueMatt> I believe we do min(25%, fresh fee esimate). Sadly lightning has tight timing requirements.
09:50 < BlueMatt> if you didnt have those timing requirements, you could be much less agressive
09:50 < ariard> well we could relax time-to-go-onchain, like break channel earlier
09:51 < ariard> darosior: we have fee-bumpinig timer expressed in block units, when timelocks expire in 3 blocks, fee-bump at each connection
09:52 < ariard> tbh rn it's just a bunch o not-really backed heuristics...
09:53 < darosior> Yeah, thanks anyways will reach out again once i have actually thought about that for real :)
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11:41 < BlueMatt> ariard: can you quick-ack https://github.com/rust-bitcoin/rust-lightning/pull/818 ? its trivial and i want to hit merge :)
11:41 < BlueMatt> also https://github.com/rust-bitcoin/rust-lightning/pull/816
11:42 < BlueMatt> maybe also https://github.com/rust-bitcoin/rust-lightning/pull/819
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15:15 < ariard> BlueMatt: just re-ack mpp, thanks for the comment
15:15 < ariard> reviewing 818
15:27 < ariard> oky the pr triplet sgtm gotta review #808 tmrw, upcoming dlc meeting :p
15:50 < BlueMatt> ariard: thanks! I'll clean up the mpp followup for review today or tomorrow. gonna go merge some stuff :)
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