--- Day changed Sat Nov 14 2015 00:34 < sipa> gmaxwell: i don't understand; ECDH is a group operation, Jacobi is a field property 00:38 < gmaxwell> sipa: my momentairily stupid belief was that if multiply by n map swapped the jacobi sign on the original point, that it would also be swapping the sign on the point on the isomorphic curve. 00:39 < sipa> you would 00:40 < sipa> because flipping the jacobi sign is just negation 00:40 < sipa> which does carry over the group 00:40 < gmaxwell> And if so, if our input were P.x and jacobi-sign, then we could end up with nP.x, new jacobi sign. 00:40 < sipa> oh, no, that won't work 00:41 < gmaxwell> Right. it doesn't but I thought for a moment that it did. :) 00:41 < sipa> as point multiplication involves more than just group multiplication 00:42 < gmaxwell> I was thinking that it works for a dumb reason, I tried with P and -P and found that multiply by n ... obviously, did the same thing to their y jacobi. :) 02:17 -!- btcdrak_ [uid115429@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-feqmqxzmdxuavzvt] has joined #secp256k1 02:20 -!- midnightmagic_ [~midnightm@unaffiliated/midnightmagic] has joined #secp256k1 02:20 -!- sipa_ [~pw@2a02:348:86:3011::1] has joined #secp256k1 02:20 -!- btcdrak [uid115429@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-imyuodkxuzcjbsnp] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 02:20 -!- midnightmagic [~midnightm@unaffiliated/midnightmagic] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 02:20 -!- sipa [~pw@unaffiliated/sipa1024] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 02:20 -!- btcdrak_ is now known as btcdrak 02:43 -!- midnightmagic_ is now known as midnightmagic 03:26 -!- jtimon [~quassel@74.29.134.37.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined #secp256k1 07:26 -!- You're now known as kanzure 08:30 -!- sipa_ is now known as sipa 12:40 -!- nullbyte [~NSA@cpe-66-68-54-206.austin.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: leaving] 13:42 -!- andytoshi [~andytoshi@wpsoftware.net] has quit [Changing host] 13:42 -!- andytoshi [~andytoshi@unaffiliated/andytoshi] has joined #secp256k1 18:35 -!- jtimon [~quassel@74.29.134.37.dynamic.jazztel.es] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:45 -!- lecusemble [~lecusembl@104.233.76.133] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 20:46 -!- lecusemble [~lecusembl@f9beb4d9.violates.me] has joined #secp256k1