--- Day changed Sat Mar 03 2018 00:09 -!- indutny [~indutny@167.99.4.134] has quit [Quit: ZNC - https://znc.in] 00:10 -!- indutny [~indutny@2604:a880:400:d1::336:c001] has joined #secp256k1 00:10 -!- indutny [~indutny@2604:a880:400:d1::336:c001] has quit [Client Quit] 00:10 -!- indutny [~indutny@2604:a880:400:d1::336:c001] has joined #secp256k1 02:33 -!- Taek42 [~quassel@2001:41d0:1:472e::] has joined #secp256k1 02:35 -!- sipa_ [~pw@2001:19f0:ac01:2fb:5400:ff:fe5b:c3ff] has joined #secp256k1 02:36 -!- [b__b] [~b__b]@ec2-54-85-45-223.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 02:37 -!- Taek [~quassel@2001:41d0:1:472e::] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:37 -!- sipa [~pw@2001:19f0:ac01:2fb:5400:ff:fe5b:c3ff] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 02:38 -!- [b__b] [~b__b]@ec2-54-85-45-223.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has joined #secp256k1 03:27 -!- jtimon [~quassel@41.31.134.37.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined #secp256k1 04:23 -!- jtimon [~quassel@41.31.134.37.dynamic.jazztel.es] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 05:56 -!- jtimon [~quassel@41.31.134.37.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined #secp256k1 06:11 -!- arubi [~ese168@gateway/tor-sasl/ese168] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:12 -!- arubi [~ese168@gateway/tor-sasl/ese168] has joined #secp256k1 06:24 -!- arubi [~ese168@gateway/tor-sasl/ese168] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 06:26 -!- arubi [~ese168@gateway/tor-sasl/ese168] has joined #secp256k1 07:07 < Taek42> If I understand it right, + and * makes more sense in the general case for schnorr signatures. If you are using * and ^ that implies that '*' is the repeated application of some other operation 07:07 -!- Taek42 is now known as Taek 07:07 < Taek> and while that's true for integer rings, and perhaps for EC too, it may not be true for other groups and applications of Schnorr 07:13 < sipa_> there is no such implication :) 07:13 < sipa_> in some places * is just used for the group operation, without any + 07:14 < sipa_> or you mean that there should be? 07:26 < Taek> if I'm trying to make assumptions based on what I know from algebra, if I see * and ^ I'm going to assume there's a base '+' operation and that repeated '+' gets '*' and repeated '*' gets '^' 07:27 < Taek> but I think in the case of schnorr, that's a bad assumption and not what the notation is implying 08:10 -!- arubi [~ese168@gateway/tor-sasl/ese168] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 08:11 -!- arubi [~ese168@gateway/tor-sasl/ese168] has joined #secp256k1 12:06 -!- jtimon [~quassel@41.31.134.37.dynamic.jazztel.es] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 12:37 -!- indutny [~indutny@2604:a880:400:d1::336:c001] has quit [Quit: ZNC - https://znc.in] 12:59 -!- indutny [~indutny@2604:a880:400:d1::336:c001] has joined #secp256k1 13:01 -!- indutny [~indutny@2604:a880:400:d1::336:c001] has quit [Client Quit] 13:01 -!- indutny [~indutny@167.99.4.134] has joined #secp256k1 13:01 -!- indutny [~indutny@167.99.4.134] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:02 -!- indutny [~indutny@2604:a880:400:d1::336:c001] has joined #secp256k1 13:02 -!- indutny [~indutny@2604:a880:400:d1::336:c001] has quit [Client Quit] 13:09 -!- indutny [~indutny@167.99.4.134] has joined #secp256k1 13:09 -!- indutny [~indutny@167.99.4.134] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:09 -!- indutny [~indutny@2604:a880:400:d1::336:c001] has joined #secp256k1 13:14 -!- nickler [~nickler@185.12.46.130] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 13:32 -!- indutny [~indutny@2604:a880:400:d1::336:c001] has quit [Quit: ZNC - https://znc.in] 13:32 -!- indutny [~indutny@2604:a880:400:d1::336:c001] has joined #secp256k1 13:34 -!- indutny [~indutny@2604:a880:400:d1::336:c001] has quit [Client Quit] 13:35 -!- indutny [~indutny@2604:a880:400:d1::336:c001] has joined #secp256k1 14:15 -!- jtimon [~quassel@41.31.134.37.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined #secp256k1 16:00 -!- weez17 [~isaac@unaffiliated/weez17] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:00 -!- weez17 [~isaac@unaffiliated/weez17] has joined #secp256k1 23:04 -!- arubi [~ese168@gateway/tor-sasl/ese168] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 23:11 -!- arubi [~ese168@gateway/tor-sasl/ese168] has joined #secp256k1