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12:50 <@michaelfolkson> Updated Telegram group for Taproot activation (LOT=true) here: https://t.me/taprootactivation
12:51 < luke-jr> https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2021-February/018498.html
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12:51 < luke-jr> also the refutations to F1-F7 https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2021-February/018500.html
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13:20 < jeremyrubin> michaelfolkson: is there a reason to not use the exisiting tg group?
13:21 < jeremyrubin> just looking at 258 vs 20 members lol
13:21 <@michaelfolkson> I didn't set it up
13:21  * michaelfolkson shrugs
13:21 < jeremyrubin> ah ok
13:22 <@michaelfolkson> I'm guessing too a proportion of the people in that group won't be interested in a LOT=true by default activation implementation
13:22 < jeremyrubin> ah i see
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13:26 < mcm-mike> I like it here better than TG as its not as flashy and colorful (to some extent). Following the mailinglist new proposal just came in (reading it atm).
13:29 < robert_spigler> I don't have telegram.  Should I download? How is the discussion there compared to IRC
13:31 < stortz> haven't seen any discussion on telegram so far
13:32 <@michaelfolkson> It is generally more informed and more technical here robert_spigler
13:32 <@michaelfolkson> But that have been some interesting conversations there too. I've generally been on here but monitoring Telegram too
13:33 < stortz> there was some talk today on the channel
13:33 < stortz> but mostly michael clarifying things
13:34 < robert_spigler> stortz michaelfolkson cool thanks
13:35 < stortz> I've seen a lot of fear regarding chainsplit
13:35 < robert_spigler> luke-jr great ML post
13:35 < stortz> both on telegram and twitter
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13:35 < stortz> people tend of go with LOT=false because they think it has the lowest chance of chainsplit
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13:40 < luke-jr> so we need people to correct that misconception
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13:48 < robert_spigler> yes, definitely
13:53 < mcm-mike> ML is active and good proposals coming in.
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13:57 <@michaelfolkson> IRC channel for the LOT=true by default activation implementation is ##uasf for anyone who missed that earlier
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14:04 < luke-jr> mcm-mike: "miners decide" is not a good proposal
14:08 <@michaelfolkson> There's some communications to do at some point on ##uasf. At least personally I will be fighting very hard the "this is anti-miners or anti-Core" narrative. I have no criticism whatsoever for mining pools or Core during the process
14:09 <@michaelfolkson> My expectation is Taproot activates well before lot is even relevant. This is not 2017
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15:08 <@michaelfolkson> Anonymized transcript of recent Sydney Socratic, the latter part was on Taproot activation which included (anonymized) input from Rusty and AJ amongst others https://diyhpl.us/wiki/transcripts/sydney-bitcoin-meetup/2021-02-23-socratic-seminar/
15:09 <@michaelfolkson> Transcript of podcast with Sjors and Aaron van Wirdum on the LOT parameter https://diyhpl.us/wiki/transcripts/bitcoin-magazine/2021-02-26-taproot-activation-lockinontimeout/
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15:45 < queip> btw it should be in topic what LOT=true is
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15:54 <@michaelfolkson> queip: You mean in the topic of the ##uasf channel?
15:55 < queip> michaelfolkson: here
15:56 < queip> along with link to ##uasf desu :P
15:56 <@michaelfolkson> This channel isn't for the LOT=true default implementation. This channel is for discussion anything activation related
15:57 < queip> michaelfolkson: indeed, so it might want to mention what LOT= exactly is or where to read it
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16:01 -!- michaelfolkson changed the topic of ##taproot-activation to: General discussion on Taproot activation Logs: http://gnusha.org/taproot-activation/ Discussion on the LOT=true implementation belong in ##uasf. Discussion on Taproot itself belong in ##taproot-bip-review.
16:01 <@michaelfolkson> queip: Ok done, thanks
16:06 < queip> neat
16:33 -!- michaelfolkson changed the topic of ##taproot-activation to: General discussion on Taproot activation Logs: http://gnusha.org/taproot-activation/ Discussion on the LOT=true implementation belongs in ##uasf. Discussion on Taproot itself belongs in ##taproot-bip-review.
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16:59 < luke-jr> s/Discussion on/Development of/ ?
16:59 -!- michaelfolkson changed the topic of ##taproot-activation to: General discussion on Taproot activation Logs: http://gnusha.org/taproot-activation/ Development of the LOT=true implementation belongs in ##uasf. Discussion on Taproot itself belongs in ##taproot-bip-review.
17:00 <@michaelfolkson> luke-jr: Done
17:03 <@michaelfolkson> queip: Answering your question from ##uasf No we don't know what Core will do. There are no open PRs in Core with specific parameters thus far
17:06 < queip> can description of that LOT is/does be in some /topic then? if you want to get massive support from community then start linking the info also on irc :)
17:11 <@michaelfolkson> The most recent estimated startheight I saw was July 23rd, there is time
17:12 <@michaelfolkson> And a lot of the community isn't on IRC. But sure I'll add a link to a doc once we have one
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