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02:24 <@michaelfolkson> luke-jr: I think we have to give ST a chance. And perhaps you'll disagree but I'm seeing a lot more consensus around ST than the LOT parameter. Some people will try to cause chaos but we have to try to not be influenced by them
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02:27 <@michaelfolkson> Some people seem to be playing games which is unfortunate.
02:28 <@michaelfolkson> If ST fails we are back in the situation pre-ST where UASF should release a BIP 8(1 year, LOT=true). But it is too early to call ST a failure imo
02:38 <@michaelfolkson> nothingmuch jeremyrubin mol: Can you ACK/NACK this please? https://gist.github.com/michaelfolkson/92899f27f1ab30aa2ebee82314f8fe7f
02:39 <@michaelfolkson> maaku: It sounds like it will be a NACK (which is fine) but can you also ACK/NACK this please? https://gist.github.com/michaelfolkson/92899f27f1ab30aa2ebee82314f8fe7f
02:42 <@michaelfolkson> nothingmuch: You didn't support the UASF pre-ST and now you are discussing UASF during a ST deployment. Luke has already said attempting a UASF during ST would be crazy.
02:43 <@michaelfolkson> It just seems like you are trying to sow chaos at the moment. Please ACK/NACK ST so we can actually understand where you stand
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04:05 < maaku> michaelfolkson: I don't think I should ACK/NACK anything. I don't use bitcoin, I don't develop bitcoin (anymore), I don't hold bitcoin.
04:06 <@michaelfolkson> maaku: Ok fair enough. Thanks for getting back to me though
04:06 < maaku> I'm in this channel because how this activation plays out will contain valuable lessons for future community governance in projects I am involved with
04:06 <@michaelfolkson> Gotcha, understood
04:08 < maaku> I've tried not to say much in here because of that. But where I have said something it's because I thought I had something useful to add because of my experience having been through this before. I have no intentions beyond that.
04:08 < maaku> Cheers.
04:08 <@michaelfolkson> Appreciate the detail, obviously everyone is free to participate or lurk as much as they want
04:27 <@michaelfolkson> In terms of a UASF during a ST deployment, Luke and I have both said it would be crazy to attempt. If anyone supports doing a UASF during a ST deployment this is the right channel to raise it in.
04:29 <@michaelfolkson> In terms of "protecting a ST deployment from a UASF" to whatever extent you can do that (I would say you can't) that is a topic for ##taproot-activation and not here. ST is being discussed for Core (and not UASF) in ##taproot-activation
04:30 <@michaelfolkson> For more context on this "doing a UASF during a ST deployment" I've responded on the mailing list: https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2021-March/018599.html
04:31 <@michaelfolkson> This channel is for UASF. ST is being discussed for Core
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