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09:57 < adiabat> Hey normally the weekly call is at 9:30 am EDT but this week how about 3 hours later, at 12:30PM EDT
09:58 < adiabat> That's harder for people in KST but I think kcalvinalvin you're doing exams and stuff this week so not really working on this much?
10:00 < ja> oooh, i will definitely join in then :)
10:00 < adiabat> Aaron wants to join and he's on US pacific time so that fits better... and it's still OK for europe, and mayyybe KST could still work as it's like 1:30 am
10:00 < adiabat> ok cool
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10:07 < aaronc2347> hi
10:08 < aaronc2347> test
10:08 < ja> i read you aaron
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10:28 < kcalvinalvin> adiabat Yeah I'm not doing much at the moment. My focus will be back on Utreexo starting this Saturday.
10:28 < kcalvinalvin> Yeah you guys could go ahead with that. Might hop on if I'm not asleep
10:30 < adiabat> kcalvinalvin: no no problem, exams and stuff
10:30 < adiabat> I also haven't been doing as much, there are like, DCI meetings and things
10:31 < adiabat> aaronc2347: welcome to IRC!  The communications protocol of the 80s... today.
10:31 < kcalvinalvin> Was planning to say this at the call tomorrow but since I might not be on, I guess I could just say it here.
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10:31 < kcalvinalvin> The same guy that runs mempool.space might be up for running a bridgenode once we're ready to go
10:32 < adiabat> fun, yeah I don't think there will be a shortage but great
10:32 < kcalvinalvin> Haven't really filled him on the details since I don't know it yet either :)
10:32 < adiabat> it's not any harder than running an archive node now, which is... not hard
10:32 < adiabat> although I guess it's huge?
10:32 < adiabat> hmm should test that
10:33 < kcalvinalvin> Wouldn't it be a hassle bandwidth wise?
10:33 < adiabat> full genproofs size for mainnet
10:33 < adiabat> bandwidth is only an issue if everyone's downloading from you
10:33 < kcalvinalvin> Assuming a bunch of people just start to play around with little nodes
10:33 < adiabat> yeah could get annoying maybe
10:33 < adiabat> I have a bitcoin mainnet node that's archive and has been running forever
10:34 < adiabat> it's about 1 TB a month
10:34 < adiabat> (all upload, like 100GB month down)
10:35 < adiabat> I bet with erlay the download would get cut in half
10:35 < kcalvinalvin> Eh maybe we would spin up some AWS lightsail nodes if it *really* starts to become a problem
10:35 < kcalvinalvin> Or maybe that's not a problem but a really good thing :)
10:35 < adiabat> doesn't AWS charge insane upload fees?
10:35 < kcalvinalvin> oh right.. :/
10:36 < adiabat> I have MIT servers... one of which is dead but
10:36 < adiabat> I think soon I'll be able to go back there and fix it
10:36 < adiabat> like in the next few weeks
10:36 < adiabat> I guess we need to distinguish better...
10:36 < kcalvinalvin> Well, I can spin up a server here (my ISP doesn't have a bandwidth cap) and seems like a Japan server is doable so...
10:36 < adiabat> there's the proof archive, and then the bridge itself
10:37 < adiabat> the archive is pretty big, actually we haven't measured it have we?
10:37 < adiabat> maybe 500GB?
10:37 < kcalvinalvin> Not for full mainnet no
10:37 < kcalvinalvin> Prob around that much
10:37 < adiabat> well 300GB for regular blocks
10:37 < adiabat> and then an extra 200 or something
10:38 < adiabat> there are wasy to reduce that, potentially by a lot
10:38 < adiabat> but yeah an "archive" utreexo node will be big
10:38 < kcalvinalvin> oh boy the sync speeds on hdds would be terrible :/ Maybe this is a good time to benchmark those as well
10:38 < adiabat> a "bridge-only" is just the forest, which is 4GB or so
10:39 < adiabat> wait, why would sync on HDD be bad?
10:39 < kcalvinalvin> For a full bridgenode with all the proofs
10:39 < adiabat> I don't think it'll be that bad
10:39 < adiabat> but yeah we haven't tested it
10:39 < adiabat> I bet you can do full mainnet genproofs on an HDD in under a day
10:40 < adiabat> hm.  actually I don't know. heh
10:40 < adiabat> but genproofs doesn't really *do* anything, like it doesn't know what anything is, there's no signature checking etc
10:40 < adiabat> so it shouldn't be too slow.
10:41 < kcalvinalvin> Ah right. Yeah but we should definitely start benchmarking
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