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07:05 < nick_freeman> hi guys!
07:07 < nick_freeman> in utreexo a light client could buy its inclusion proofs from a bridge node by adding an output for the bridge to its TX such that the bridge has an incentive to add the missing inclusion proofs and broadcast the TX
07:09 < nick_freeman> is that right? 
07:10 < nick_freeman> the issue is that a fair price for the inclusion proofs is probably too low to justify a onchain UTXO
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09:00 < adiabat_> nick_freeman: maybe in theory but I don't think paying for proofs is practical
09:00 < adiabat_> there's paying for your own proofs for your own UTXOs for everyone else to verify, which could make sense
09:01 < adiabat_> but then there's all the people who don't use utreexo at all and maybe never will, and they don't have proofs or care about them, so will never pay
09:01 < adiabat_> and if you're running a utreexo node, you need proofs for all *those* transaction inputs
09:02 < adiabat_> and there's way more of those, and they're anonymous and nobody's paying
09:03 < adiabat_> I guess it's technically a soft fork if you say: "all new transactions need utreexo proofs" and then maybe you could outsource / pay for your proofs
09:04 < adiabat_> but a new soft fork in bitcoin which makes bitcoin transactions cost more..?  Good luck getting that in...
09:05 < adiabat_> so our focus is making the proofs smaller / faster / cheaper, so it's easy to run a bridge node on a regular computer
09:05 < adiabat_> it's relies a little bit on altriusm but same as current archive nodes serving old blocks, and there seem to be plenty of those
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