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01:15 < hebasto> `python-vm-builder` package is not available in distros after bionic; should we maintain the `--kvm` option for `gitian-build.py` script?
01:17 < hebasto> wumpus: luke-jr: ^
01:18 < wumpus> i personally always use LXC
01:18 < hebasto> me too :)
01:18 < wumpus> so ok with removing it, unless someone got it to work some other way
01:19 < wumpus> i dono't really know why one'd prefer to use KVM, there's no reason to use a low level VM here
01:20 < hebasto> anyway, it is still possible to make kvm-based gitian builds w/o python helper script, right?
01:23 < wumpus> yes
01:39 < wumpus> i think removing it is fine
01:39 < wumpus> it can still be used for old releases, with the build script on that branch
01:39 < wumpus> but not on 22.x which builds with focal
01:43 < hebasto> done in #21140
01:43 < gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/21140 | script: Drop KVM support in gitian-build.py by hebasto · Pull Request #21140 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
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06:51 < luke-jr> hebasto: of course; it didn't even work for bionic either, but it's not too hard to make a VM
06:52 < luke-jr> wumpus: I don't trust LXC to shield me against potentially-malicious third-party binaries
06:52 < hebasto> luke-jr: " don't trust LXC" why?
06:53 < luke-jr> hebasto: it's based on the kernel providing perfect containerisation
06:53 < luke-jr> could just run as a normal user withotu any VE in that case
06:54 < hebasto> iiuc, you do not trust in kernel, right?
06:54 < luke-jr> I don't trust it to be 0day-free, when they're constantly being found ;)
06:54 < hebasto> I see
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08:23 < wumpus> i think the main difference is that i run gitian *itself* in a VM, so don't see the need to run the build in a sub-VM, but yea i guess you can use it like that
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15:26 < luke-jr> wumpus: I used to, but tbh at this point isn't gitian's job 90% just managing the VM start/run/stop? :P
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