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01:39 < laanwj> it might be less of an issue now secp256k1 is supported by GPG ?
01:40 < laanwj> i don't really now, i don't think it's a good idea to completely hand-roll our own signing t ool
01:41 < laanwj> getting things just right is harder than you'd initially expect, as well as too much scope creep
01:42 < laanwj> same output for sipa's command: c3e5fe3bd09423ad4ac1ba8f2dbcb80ed2e4c38e9fdce58fcc6723ab7f2554dd  -
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13:34 < cfields> $ sha256sum $(find -type f | LANG=C sort) | sha256sum
13:34 < cfields> c3e5fe3bd09423ad4ac1ba8f2dbcb80ed2e4c38e9fdce58fcc6723ab7f2554dd  -
13:34 < cfields> :)
13:35 < sipa> \o/
13:35 < sipa> either we have matching build output, or we found a SHA256 collision
13:35 < sipa> both are cause for celebration
13:42 < cfields> heh
13:43 < cfields> so to add sigs, just do gpg detached sigs for all the SHA256SUMS files? Or something special needed?
13:43 < sipa> guix-attest will do it for you
13:43 < sipa> but i think that's pretty much it
13:44 < cfields> oh, there it is. I figured something like that should exist, heh.
13:44 < cfields> thanks
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15:37 < emzy> I can't download Xcode_12.1.xip I used my Apple Account but it seems I need to pay $99 to download it. The page says: "The Apple ID you signed in with does not have permission to view this page"
15:37 < emzy> I'm using the link from here: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/blob/master/contrib/macdeploy/README.md
15:38 < emzy> In the past I was able to download the .xip files.
15:43 < emzy> Ok it works if I search for it on the Apple dev. site. I get the same link. But the deep link from github is not working.
15:47 < cfields> emzy: yeah, I think it checks your referrer.
15:47 < cfields> Could probably make it work with some cURL magic.
15:48 < emzy> It's not easy. You have to login to your Apple account also with second factor...
15:49 < cfields> Right, you'd have to login and get your magic cookie and c/p to curl. Really only useful if you've got a dev machine without a web browser.
15:50 < cfields> also, I might take another look at switching us to the command line tools instead of full Xcode. Last I checked it also included the SDK. And it's not like 30gigs extracted.
15:53 < emzy> I downloading it on my notebook and scp it to my guix machine. But you only need to do that once. I think no need to optimize it. Maybe only mention you need to search for the SDK in the page.
15:53 < emzy> s/in/on/
15:54 < cfields> Well the SDK gets bumped every year or two. And Xcode seems to double in size at about the same rate, heh.
16:12 < sipa> Gates' Law: software speed halves every 18 months
16:13 < sipa> probably has an analogue here too
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16:28 < emzy> sipa: Gates' Law sounds right LOL. Is it related to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wirth%27s_law
16:32 < emzy> Oh wow it is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andy_and_Bill%27s_law
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19:49 < fanquake> Now that we have an actual tag for performing Guix test builds, I've closed all other PRs on the Guix sigs repo, that were just building older commits.
19:49 < fanquake> Ideally everyone that's interested in building can rebuild now with the new tag. 3 builds there so far.
20:04 < cfields> will pr mine tomorrow, need to move my keys over first.
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