--- Log opened Thu Jul 08 00:00:00 2021
00:56 < fanquake> dongcarl: having a look through the docs. Also running some Guix builds from scratch using different installs / options
04:38 < fanquake> --no-substitutes build failed 🥲
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08:15 < darosior> Do others had issues with GnuTLS building Guix against Guile 3.0? "The Guile bindings of GnuTLS are missing" -> looks like i'll have to build GnuTLS too..
08:16 < darosior> (Testing #21711 here)
08:16 < gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/21711 | guix: Add full installation and usage documentation by dongcarl · Pull Request #21711 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
09:19 < dongcarl> darosior: Hi hi
09:19 < dongcarl> Which distro are you on?
09:20 < darosior> dongcarl: Debian sid, now fixed by building stabe GnuTLS :)
09:20 < darosior> stable*
09:21 < dongcarl> darosior: Wow... Living dangerously XP
09:31 < darosior> Sorry testing not sid.. 
09:33 < sipa> debian testing, that's like ubuntu stable?
10:45 < dongcarl> XD
13:30 < darosior> hehe
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15:51 < luke-jr> dongcarl: looks like they all require root still?
15:56 < dongcarl> luke-jr: You can run it inside a VM
15:59 < luke-jr> dongcarl: assuming it gets root on the VM ;)
15:59 < luke-jr> gitian only gives access to the ubuntu user within the VM :/
16:00 < dongcarl> luke-jr: Even when constructing the VM?
16:01 < luke-jr> constructing the VM is done manually at this point
16:03 < dongcarl> luke-jr: Not 100% sure what you mean
16:04 < luke-jr> dongcarl: qemu uses a read-only VM base image as a template each run; to make that VM image, you have to manually install the OS and setup configuration stuff
16:05 < luke-jr> older gitian had a debootstrap-based vmbuilder program, but that's been broken for a while
16:05  * luke-jr currently trying to see if the official Guix qemu image can be useful
16:06 < dongcarl> If you run the Guix Qemu Image, you can skip all of the setup steps
16:07 < dongcarl> ping achow101 who (IIRC) working on a Docker-based Gitian solution
16:07 < luke-jr> my hope is to make a gitian .yml that just works for current gitian builders
16:13 < dongcarl> luke-jr: I think the challenge there is that Linux namespaces (how guix-daemon constrains its build containers) requires root, or at least proot.
16:13 < dongcarl> A bioinformatics researcher did a guide a while back on running in proot: https://github.com/pjotrp/guix-notes/blob/master/GUIX-NO-ROOT.org
16:15 < luke-jr> yeah, that's a big part of why I avoid LXC in general :/
16:15 < dongcarl> Yeah might be easier to get the QEMU-path working
16:16 < luke-jr> bleh, looks like the VM image still isn't self-consistent
16:16 < luke-jr> it immediately wants to change versions of pkgs :/
16:17 < dongcarl> luke-jr: Oh? What do you mean by "immediately wants to change versions of pkgs"
16:18 < luke-jr> it doesn't come with a SSH server, so I have to do some guix system reconfigure thing. no matter what config I try (/run/current-system/… incl) it wants to download different packages and switch to using them
16:19 < achow101> luke-jr: I'm ~halfway to a gitian descriptor for doing the guix build
16:19 < luke-jr> achow101: oh, nice
16:20 < luke-jr> achow101: what VM base are you using?
16:20 < dongcarl> luke-jr: We can come up with a system.scm (that does have SSH) and build a qcow using `guix system vm`
16:20 < achow101> luke-jr: ubuntu and installing the guix package
16:21 < luke-jr> dongcarl: fwiw, packages are xkbcomp xrandr xlockmore libxrender libxrandr slock glibc glibc-2.31-static curl and git-minimal
16:22 < luke-jr> dongcarl: building an entirely new VM image has a different trust profile than using official releases :x
16:22 < luke-jr> achow101: without root? :o
16:22 < luke-jr> how
16:25 < achow101> the vm builder has root I think?
16:26 < achow101> make-base-vm installs packages
16:26 < luke-jr> make-base-vm does, but gitian builds don't
16:26 < luke-jr> unless perhaps by hijacking sudo or something
16:27 < achow101> gbuild does, rather
16:28 < luke-jr> achow101: anyway, when you've got something to test, feel free to ping me to look it over / review / test
16:55 < achow101> luke-jr: https://github.com/achow101/bitcoin/blob/guix-in-gitian/contrib/gitian-descriptors/gitian-guix.yml is what I have so far, if you want to try it
16:55 < achow101> you may need to add --allow-sudo to your gbuild command
16:56 < achow101> I'm currently testing it in a docker environment but will try to test in lxc and kvm once it finishes
16:58 < achow101> you might also need https://github.com/achow101/gitian-builder/tree/install-sudo applied to gitian-builder
17:04 < achow101> bleh, I forgot vmbuilder is abandonware
17:19 < luke-jr> ah, using hirsute might alleviate some of the pain
17:19 < luke-jr> though it's going to go EOL sooner
17:20  * luke-jr starts hirsute dl
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