--- Day changed Sat Jan 09 2016 00:03 -!- jtimon [~quassel@103.red-80-26-235.adsl.dynamic.ccgg.telefonica.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 00:34 < arubi> anyone at all using segnet? I can't find any nodes to connect to. would appreciate an ipv4\tor host I can connect to. thanks. 00:52 < btcdrak> arubi: sorted in PM 00:52 < arubi> oh, right ^ 01:32 -!- Alopex [~bitcoin@cyber.dealing.ninja] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:33 -!- Alopex [~bitcoin@cyber.dealing.ninja] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 01:42 -!- Guyver2 [~Guyver2@guyver2.xs4all.nl] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 01:53 -!- trippysalmon [rob@2001:984:6466:0:51d:b5ab:ab61:bed8] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 01:54 -!- tripleslash_k [~triplesla@unaffiliated/imsaguy] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 02:02 -!- Alopex [~bitcoin@cyber.dealing.ninja] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:03 -!- Alopex [~bitcoin@cyber.dealing.ninja] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 02:06 -!- jtimon [~quassel@103.red-80-26-235.adsl.dynamic.ccgg.telefonica.net] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 03:34 -!- randy-waterhouse [~kiwigb@opentransactions/dev/randy-waterhouse] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 03:40 -!- Alopex [~bitcoin@cyber.dealing.ninja] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:41 -!- Alopex [~bitcoin@cyber.dealing.ninja] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 03:58 -!- jtimon [~quassel@103.red-80-26-235.adsl.dynamic.ccgg.telefonica.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 04:25 -!- Guyver2 [~Guyver2@guyver2.xs4all.nl] has quit [Quit: :)] 04:26 -!- btccharm [~02@107.150.94.8] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 04:50 -!- murch [~murch@p4FDB776C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 04:52 -!- btccharm [~02@107.150.94.8] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 05:04 -!- murch [~murch@p4FDB776C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 05:13 -!- brg444 [18257df2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.37.125.242] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 06:28 -!- jgarzik [~jgarzik@unaffiliated/jgarzik] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 06:28 -!- Chris_Stewart_5 [~Chris_Ste@173-26-115-141.client.mchsi.com] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 06:31 -!- afk11 [~afk11@unaffiliated/afk11] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 06:42 -!- jgarzik [~jgarzik@unaffiliated/jgarzik] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 06:49 -!- arowser [~quassel@106.120.101.38] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 06:50 -!- arowser [~quassel@106.120.101.38] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 06:50 -!- d_t [~textual@c-98-234-64-218.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 06:50 -!- d_t [~textual@c-98-234-64-218.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Client Quit] 06:58 -!- laurentmt [~Thunderbi@128-79-141-196.hfc.dyn.abo.bbox.fr] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 06:58 -!- laurentmt [~Thunderbi@128-79-141-196.hfc.dyn.abo.bbox.fr] has quit [Client Quit] 07:17 -!- arowser [~quassel@106.120.101.38] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:17 -!- arowser [~quassel@106.120.101.38] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 07:27 -!- afk11 [~afk11@unaffiliated/afk11] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 07:30 < GitHub197> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 3 new commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/9de541a9c95a...93ca5a35b045 07:30 < GitHub197> bitcoin/master 82a0ce0 Suhas Daftuar: Add race-condition debugging tool to mininode 07:30 < GitHub197> bitcoin/master 168915e Suhas Daftuar: Eliminate race condition in sendheaders.py test... 07:30 < GitHub197> bitcoin/master 93ca5a3 Wladimir J. van der Laan: Merge pull request #7308... 07:30 < GitHub163> [bitcoin] laanwj closed pull request #7308: [Tests] Eliminate intermittent failures in sendheaders.py (master...fix-sendheaders) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/7308 07:32 < GitHub56> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 1 new commit to 0.12: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/commit/d513405cb71425dd615e88aca4f6222e08d150a5 07:32 < GitHub56> bitcoin/0.12 d513405 Suhas Daftuar: [Tests] Eliminate intermittent failures in sendheaders.py... 07:34 < GitHub3> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 3 new commits to 0.11: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/5f09cda0bf4c...00aefccb126f 07:34 < GitHub91> [bitcoin] laanwj closed pull request #7259: [0.11] dbwrapper: Detect obfuscation (0.11...MarcoFalke-2015-dbWrapperObfuscation-0.11) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/7259 07:34 < GitHub3> bitcoin/0.11 fa24941 MarcoFalke: [dbwrapper] Detect obfuscation 07:34 < GitHub3> bitcoin/0.11 fa3cb49 MarcoFalke: [init] Fix typo 07:34 < GitHub3> bitcoin/0.11 00aefcc Wladimir J. van der Laan: Merge pull request #7259... 07:43 -!- MarcoFalke [05c7b6cb@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.5.199.182.203] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 07:45 -!- afk11 [~afk11@unaffiliated/afk11] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 07:46 < MarcoFalke> Luke-Jr, even though a merge commit (or rebase) may appear trivial, I don't think we should put the burden on laanwj to go through that. (Not to mention it is hard to verify if any conflicts were solved during the final merge into bitcoin/bitcoin) 07:47 < wumpus> right - I don't do non-trivial merge commits 07:47 < wumpus> (except in some rare cases, but in general you should keep your own work up to date) 07:50 < MarcoFalke> wumpus, 07:50 < MarcoFalke> keypoolrefill is quite expensive, so I think a sleep(1) is enough. Let's make it 1.1 to get another 10 % overhead? 07:54 < wumpus> sure 07:56 < wumpus> I just don't want to introduce false positives. I've had some bad experiences at a previous employer where a bit of extra load on the test bench caused the test results to light up like a christmas tree, because of tightly timed tests, sending people to chase after nothing every time 07:58 < wumpus> using mock time would be ideal, but libevent will ignore that anyway it's a non-starter :) 07:59 < Luke-Jr> MarcoFalke: that's not what I said. :p *when* someone is ready to merge, they just need to ping me and I will do the merge 08:11 < wumpus> Luke-Jr: can you do your thing for #7081 then? 08:12 < Luke-Jr> yep, sec 08:18 * Luke-Jr peers at github 08:19 < Luke-Jr> wumpus: ok done 08:22 < Luke-Jr> wumpus: shall I resubmit for 0.12 also? 08:24 -!- aj_ is now known as aj 08:28 -!- Chris_Stewart_5 [~Chris_Ste@173-26-115-141.client.mchsi.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 08:42 -!- Chris_Stewart_5 [~Chris_Ste@104.156.228.192] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 08:44 -!- jtimon [~quassel@103.red-80-26-235.adsl.dynamic.ccgg.telefonica.net] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 08:45 < MarcoFalke> Luke-Jr, why twice? 08:45 < MarcoFalke> Couldn't you just merge 901b01d674031f9aca717deeb372bafa160a24af? 08:45 < MarcoFalke> It should slide into master and 0.12, regardless 08:45 < Luke-Jr> MarcoFalke: O.o? 08:47 < Luke-Jr> wrong commithash? 08:47 < MarcoFalke> did you copy the `?` 08:49 < Luke-Jr> no 08:53 < Luke-Jr> MarcoFalke: got it thx 09:00 < wumpus> Luke-Jr: I think so - with a merge commiit in it it's harder to rebase/cherry-pick 09:01 < GitHub123> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 3 new commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/93ca5a35b045...dd1304ec216c 09:01 < GitHub123> bitcoin/master 45b8e27 Luke Dashjr: -bytespersigop option to additionally limit sigops in transactions we relay and mine 09:01 < GitHub123> bitcoin/master fdc202f Luke Dashjr: Merge branch bytespersigop 09:01 < GitHub123> bitcoin/master dd1304e Wladimir J. van der Laan: Merge pull request #7081... 09:01 < GitHub185> [bitcoin] laanwj closed pull request #7081: -bytespersigop option to additionally limit sigops in transactions we relay and mine (master...bytespersigop) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/7081 09:03 < Luke-Jr> wumpus: k, https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/7323 09:03 < GitHub115> [bitcoin] luke-jr opened pull request #7323: 0.12: Backport -bytespersigop option (0.12...bytespersigop-0.12.x) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/7323 09:04 < wumpus> I tried to merge fdc202f into 0.12 but that gets a merge conflict in main.cpp 09:05 < wumpus> ok 09:05 < Luke-Jr> yeah, looks like 0.12 picked up the conflicting change as a cherry-pick or something 09:05 < Luke-Jr> btw, ACK/NACK on importing 0.11's test_framework to 0.10 so we can run newer tests against it? 09:05 < btcdrak> luke-jr, wumpus: another difficulty with merging topic branches back into master. Topic branches are just better rebased: it's less hassle all round 09:06 < wumpus> Luke-Jr: I don't care about 0.10 anymore 09:06 < Luke-Jr> btcdrak: disagree; see the links :p 09:06 < wumpus> Luke-Jr: but fine with me, if you want to put the effort in 09:06 < Luke-Jr> wumpus: ok, so I'll just maintain it myself going forward? 09:07 < Luke-Jr> should I move the branch to another repo like I used to, continue to go through PRs, or would it make sense to give me push access just for that branch (not sure if GitHub can enforce)? 09:07 < sipa> wumpus: i think that should be announced then 09:07 < Luke-Jr> sipa: well, I'll continue to be maintaining it for now either way 09:07 < wumpus> sipa: well if Luke-Jr wants to pick it up that's great 09:08 < sipa> wumpus: i do think we need some clearly visible policy about which versions the bitcoin core project maintains and will issue bug fix releases for 09:08 < wumpus> I just don't have the time to maintain lots of back versions 09:08 < sipa> whether that's decided on an ad-hoc basis 09:08 < wumpus> but if someone else wants to do that that's great 09:09 < wumpus> well in the case of a critical problem I'm sure we can roll a 0.10 release 09:09 < Luke-Jr> sipa: can go on a website somewhere maybe? a table with supported/unsupported versions? 09:09 < sipa> wumpus: don't get me wrong, i completely agree with not backporting in perpetuity, but i think it is not obvious to the world 09:10 < wumpus> but the focus has always been last release + the previous major release, so right now that'ts 0.12 and 0.11 09:10 < wumpus> (well, almost) 09:11 < wumpus> except in the case of critical security issues 09:11 < sipa> ok, what about "After 0.X's branching, 0.X-1 will receive all bug fixes, and 0.X-2 only critical bug fixes" 09:11 < wumpus> makes sense to me 09:11 < wumpus> except if someone wants to put more work into it like Luke-Jr 09:11 < wumpus> but that's all I'm willing to do, yes 09:12 < Luke-Jr> makes sense to phrase what sipa said as a "commitment" 09:12 < Luke-Jr> anything beyond that is not guaranteed 09:12 < sipa> well it's not just about you, but about we as a team commit to doing :) 09:12 < cfields> wumpus: just heard back from Travis. They'll be enabling caching for their new infrastructure later this month. That gets us Trusty, docker, and caching. 09:12 < sipa> cfields: nice 09:12 < wumpus> sipa: I know, but I can only speak for myself 09:12 < Luke-Jr> cfields: that requires us to switch to the container-based stuff though, right? 09:13 < wumpus> cfields: nice! 09:13 < cfields> Luke-Jr: nope, sudo enabled too. So our current config should just work (tm) 09:13 < Luke-Jr> sipa: one thing missing in that is with regard to softforks/hardforks 09:13 < Luke-Jr> cfields: oh, nice 09:13 < cfields> so, I think it makes sense to hold out for that, rather than hacking around too much for now 09:13 < sipa> Luke-Jr: well there is a statement around that now on the website 09:13 < wumpus> cfields: sure 09:14 < sipa> Luke-Jr: but it's not clearly tied to releases 09:14 < wumpus> cfields: good to hear it's 'later this month' 09:14 < wumpus> cfields: makes no sense to hurry more than that 09:14 < Luke-Jr> sipa: once 0.12 is released, even 0.11.x won't likely get sufficient testing, so maybe it's better not to tie it to releases 09:15 < Luke-Jr> vague commitment + current status of each branch, seems perhaps ideal? 09:16 < MarcoFalke> You mean as a table on the website? 09:16 < Luke-Jr> right 09:16 < MarcoFalke> makes sense 09:16 < wumpus> yes makes sense 09:17 < GitHub143> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 2 new commits to 0.12: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/d513405cb714...a344880e6ae3 09:17 < GitHub143> bitcoin/0.12 5b144b7 Luke Dashjr: Merge branch bytespersigop 09:17 < GitHub143> bitcoin/0.12 a344880 Wladimir J. van der Laan: Merge pull request #7323... 09:17 < GitHub48> [bitcoin] laanwj closed pull request #7323: 0.12: Backport -bytespersigop option (0.12...bytespersigop-0.12.x) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/7323 09:17 < btcdrak> sipa: wumpus: we should have a maintenance cycle listed somewhere then people know when EOL comes. 09:21 < MarcoFalke> And hardcode the EOL into the software? 09:21 < MarcoFalke> So a notification could pop up 09:25 < Luke-Jr> MarcoFalke: well, EOLing a specific release vs branch is another thing 09:26 < Luke-Jr> an automatic internal alert might not be a bad idea, but we need to be careful not to *force* upgrades too 09:26 < Luke-Jr> and ideally, it'd be best if people didn't all upgrade at the same time 09:27 < Luke-Jr> specific releases tend to be EOL'd unpredictably anyway 09:27 < Luke-Jr> ie, "when there is a notable thing to fix" 09:28 < wumpus> hardcoding it into the software that goes too far IMO 09:28 < wumpus> people are free to upgrade or not upgrade 09:28 < MarcoFalke> They may not be aware their sofware is outdated? 09:28 < wumpus> but having EOL status on the website is a great idea 09:29 < Luke-Jr> MarcoFalke: then they can check.. 09:29 < Luke-Jr> MarcoFalke: their software won't know it's outdated either 09:30 < Luke-Jr> still, it might be good to put a time limit for "hardfork required by now" stuff .. like 2036 :p 09:37 < Luke-Jr> someone with push access want to: git tag branch-0.12 3cd836c1d855b92e7c73ab31979f471c4f8dad68 # ? :P 09:41 < GitHub10> [bitcoin] luke-jr opened pull request #7324: doc/bips: Document BIP 125 support (master...bips_rbf) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/7324 09:59 -!- PRab_ [~chatzilla@68.34.102.231] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 43.0.3/20151223140742]] 10:22 -!- belcher [~user@unaffiliated/belcher] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 10:24 < afk11> Anyone running segnet that I can connect up to? and a pool/faucet? 10:29 < sipa> afk11: we're going to reset the chain soon (1-2 days, i expect), and then invite more people to connect 10:34 -!- MarcoFalke [05c7b6cb@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.5.199.182.203] has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 10:36 -!- Thireus [~Thireus@vps-92.197.170.217.stwvps.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 10:39 -!- PaulCapestany [~PaulCapes@204.28.124.82] has quit [Quit: .] 10:41 -!- PaulCapestany [~PaulCapes@204.28.124.82] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 10:43 < moli> sipa: hi, can segwit be tested in windows? 10:48 < sipa> moli: i guess we can do test builds for windows 10:49 < moli> sipa: that would be great, thank you 10:55 -!- d_t [~textual@c-98-234-64-218.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 11:06 -!- JackH [~Jack@host-80-43-143-228.as13285.net] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 11:22 -!- afk11 [~afk11@unaffiliated/afk11] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 11:24 -!- belcher [~user@unaffiliated/belcher] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:32 -!- afk11 [~afk11@unaffiliated/afk11] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 11:36 -!- SmiteMeSmith [~SmiteMeSm@WLLDON1606W-LP140-01-2925330739.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 12:06 -!- AtashiCon [arnavion@unaffiliated/arnavion] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:06 -!- AtashiCon [arnavion@unaffiliated/arnavion] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 12:23 -!- laurentmt [~Thunderbi@128-79-141-196.hfc.dyn.abo.bbox.fr] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 12:41 < afk11> sipa: had to step out, but thanks for that. 12:47 -!- laurentmt [~Thunderbi@128-79-141-196.hfc.dyn.abo.bbox.fr] has quit [Quit: laurentmt] 12:56 -!- orbiting [~orbiting@71-19-183-102.dedicated.allstream.net] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 13:21 -!- randy-waterhouse [~kiwigb@opentransactions/dev/randy-waterhouse] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 13:22 -!- shiinko [~shiinko@151.80.78.204] has left #bitcoin-core-dev ["AndroIRC - Android IRC Client ( http://www.androirc.com )"] 13:31 -!- Arnavion [arnavion@unaffiliated/arnavion] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:32 -!- Arnavion [arnavion@unaffiliated/arnavion] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 13:39 -!- trippysalmon [rob@2001:984:6466:0:51d:b5ab:ab61:bed8] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 13:42 -!- paveljanik [~paveljani@unaffiliated/paveljanik] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:18 -!- brg444 [18257df2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.37.125.242] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:22 -!- d_t [~textual@c-98-234-64-218.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. 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They could be soft-forked serially in v5, but perhaps different script flags? 17:39 < btcdrak> afk11: that'll get resolved at merge. 17:41 < afk11> btcdrak: do we know if there'll be two soft forks? TBD? 17:41 < btcdrak> afk11: TDB. I personally see no reason not to combine them as one. 17:49 -!- d_t [~textual@c-24-4-96-213.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 18:19 -!- AtashiCon [arnavion@unaffiliated/arnavion] has quit [Disconnected by services] 18:19 -!- Arnavion3 [arnavion@unaffiliated/arnavion] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 18:19 -!- Arnavion3 is now known as AtashiCon 18:20 -!- d_t [~textual@c-24-4-96-213.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. 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As the order has now changed we do, indeed, no longer need this check." 19:01 < Luke-Jr> sipa: so you can confirm the order in 0.10 is safe for that? 19:04 < sipa> Luke-Jr: i need to look, thanks for reminding me of that 19:08 -!- Ylbam [uid99779@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-hbmxghgcknsejwnt] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 19:23 -!- belcher [~user@unaffiliated/belcher] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:00 -!- adam3us [~Adium@195.138.228.8] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 20:06 -!- xiangfu [~xiangfu@123.125.212.71] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 20:09 -!- brg444 [415ce066@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.92.224.102] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 20:14 -!- d_t [~textual@c-98-234-64-218.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. 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