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00:59 < GitHub71> [bitcoin] gladoscc opened pull request #7451: Add link to bitcoin whitepaper (master...master) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/7451
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01:07 < GitHub62> [bitcoin] laanwj closed pull request #7445: rename COPYING to LICENSE (master...master) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/7445
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01:22 < GitHub46> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 2 new commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/a6771fc9734a...31ec14b74ba3
01:22 < GitHub46> bitcoin/master 93fc58c Jorge Timón: Consensus: Remove calls to error() and FormatStateMessage() from some consensus code in main
01:22 < GitHub46> bitcoin/master 31ec14b Wladimir J. van der Laan: Merge #7287: Consensus: Remove calls to error() and FormatStateMessage()...
01:22 < GitHub158> [bitcoin] laanwj closed pull request #7287: Consensus: Remove calls to error() and FormatStateMessage() (master...consensus-decouple-util-0.13.99) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/7287
01:35 < wumpus> Rebroad: what compile error do you get?
01:39 < wumpus> gmaxwell: right, a missing banlist.dat should be harmless. The only non-condiational log message I can find relating to it is "Invalid or missing banlist.dat; recreating\n", which is given when it doesn't exist yet and is being created
01:40 < wumpus> the other banlist.dat related messages all go to category net
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01:44 < gmaxwell> Did we fix it so that it actually got created.
01:47 < GitHub83> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 3 new commits to 0.12: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/cb83beb3759b...e2d9a5858807
01:47 < GitHub51> [bitcoin] laanwj closed pull request #7438: Do not absolutely protect local peers; decide group ties based on time. (0.12...dont_protect_local) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/7438
01:47 < GitHub83> bitcoin/0.12 46dbcd4 Gregory Maxwell: Do not absolutely protect local peers from eviction....
01:47 < GitHub83> bitcoin/0.12 8e09f91 Gregory Maxwell: Decide eviction group ties based on time....
01:47 < GitHub83> bitcoin/0.12 e2d9a58 Wladimir J. van der Laan: Merge #7438: Do not absolutely protect local peers; decide group ties based on time....
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01:48 < wumpus> well my nodes have a banlist.dat and I haven't created it manually so I guess so
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01:51 < wumpus> oh not all of them, I guess only the ones that have banlists
01:52 < wumpus> strange. you knew this was a problem? why isn't there an issue open for it
01:53 < wumpus> 2016-01-13 09:35:05 ERROR: Read: Failed to open file /home/orion/.bitcoin/banlist.dat / 2016-01-13 09:35:05 Invalid or missing banlist.dat; recreating
01:53 < wumpus> appears every time
01:53 < gmaxwell> I thought there was. Sorry, so many things going on.
01:53 < wumpus> no problem, it's hardly critical, but especialy minor things like this should have an issue so that they don't get lost. I'll open one, np
01:53 < gmaxwell> I'm sure its some trivial fix; I'm not prone to whine about things that I think I ought to just go fix.
01:54 < gmaxwell> I think I whined to pieter about it in person and he already knew about it; or something like that.
01:54 < gmaxwell> I'm sorry. I'm not operating very effectively these days.
01:56 < wumpus> no need to fix it yourself, these are the right kind of issues for someone just getting into the code
01:56 < gmaxwell> point.
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03:06 < wumpus> I want to wrap up rc3 soon; any opinions on https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/7431 / Rename permitrbf to replacebyfee and provide minimal string-list forward compatibility  ?
03:10 < gmaxwell> I don't have any objection there. I do think replacebyfee= is better named. Though if it's pluggable policy for luke I wonder why he didn't call it -mempoolreplace 
03:11 < wumpus> good point
03:12 < wumpus> if it's general, why stick to replacing by fee
03:13 < gmaxwell> I want replace by moon.. uses a lunar calandar to select transactions.
03:14 < wumpus> to at least make centuries of superstition about lunar phases concrete
03:28 < petertodd> wumpus: I have no opinion on the names
03:29 < petertodd> wumpus: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ussCHoQttyQ
03:29 < wumpus> petertodd: me neither, but if we're going to change it then it helps if people actually agree on it, so we don't get yet another pull request changing it to yet something else
03:29 < petertodd> wumpus: fine then, -replacebyfee or I kill you all with fire
03:30 < wumpus> lol
03:30 < petertodd> wumpus: -permitrbf is the type of name only bad people, incapable of love, would come up with
03:30 < gmaxwell> fee is just an acronym.  Function Evaluating Everything.
03:32 < wumpus> -replacebyfreedom
03:33 < gmaxwell> petertodd: ^ you're an idiot for not calling it that to begin with.
03:33 < gmaxwell> or replacementfreedom
03:33 < petertodd> gmaxwell: hey, not too late to release my own Bitcoin Freedom Edition fork
03:34 < petertodd> or Bitcoin Objectivism... free in every box of Ayn Bran!
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04:21 < gmaxwell> wumpus: is there anything else needed for the next RC?
04:22 < MarcoFalke> I think travis is failing due to missing doc
04:22 < MarcoFalke> one sec...
04:23 < wumpus> MarcoFalke: strange, I can't fin this in the output at least
04:23 < MarcoFalke> gmaxwell, I assume you need to add the arg to the blacklist in check-doc.py as well
04:24 < gmaxwell> oh interesting.
04:24 < MarcoFalke> I am using regex to collect all args, so there are some false positives
04:25 < wumpus> I think we should revert the argument checking for now - it's not apparent in the travis output at all
04:25 < MarcoFalke> The command "if [ "$RUN_TESTS" = "true" ]; then contrib/devtools/check-doc.py; fi" exited with 1.
04:25 < gmaxwell> I can try just pushing the check-doc update that suggested.
04:25 < MarcoFalke> wumpus, ^
04:25 < wumpus> this will confuse lots of people
04:25 < gmaxwell> I do as you command. Just tell me what to do.
04:25 < wumpus> gmaxwell: sure, but this is just not clear, we don't want tests where people have to guess what they have to change
04:26 < gmaxwell> oh you mean the test. 
04:27 < MarcoFalke> gmaxwell, vim  contrib/devtools/check-doc.py , Then add it in the line where 'benchmark' is.
04:27 < wumpus> MarcoFalke: it needs a more clear message
04:28 < wumpus> people don't expect the tests to fail because of this
04:28 < wumpus> certainly not on all platforms
04:29 < MarcoFalke> wumpus, This is with all travis checks? You need to grep for the exit status in the output to find out what failed
04:29 < wumpus> for other failures, say while building or running the RPC tests there will be an actual error message
04:29 < wumpus> I've never had to "grep for an exit status"
04:30 < wumpus> also I think it'd make sense to do this check first
04:31 < wumpus> so people don't have to wait for all the other, more time-consuming tests, before failing on something silly like this
04:31 < MarcoFalke> it is first
04:31 < MarcoFalke> Right after make distdir
04:32 < wumpus> then why does e.g. "32-bit+dash" only fail after 19 minutes?
04:32 < wumpus> and the others after 11?
04:32 < wumpus> this could fail after less than one
04:33 < wumpus> to be clear I'm talking about: https://travis-ci.org/bitcoin/bitcoin/builds/106013074
04:33 < MarcoFalke> got this
04:33 < MarcoFalke> will pull a fix after lunch
04:33 < wumpus> thanks
04:34 < gmaxwell> MarcoFalke: I knw how to update it. But I wasn't sure if wumpus wanted me to. I just did, at least it'll see if travis passes.
04:34 < wumpus> gmaxwell: sure, that still makes sense
04:34 < wumpus> gmaxwell: my complaints about the test system are pretty much orthogonal :)
04:36 < gmaxwell> lol my comment karama in /r/btc is 16 now, will probably go negative tonight.
04:38 < wumpus> that should be worth a medal 
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04:43 < wumpus> gmaxwell: re: rc3, #7439 is pretty much all, apart from some minor things like the -forcebyfee naming
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04:44 < gmaxwell> -freedomfee
04:45 < aj> typical of a blockstreamer, negative freedom and fees...
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04:45 < gmaxwell> he was kidding!
04:45 < aj> (it's true! i was!)
04:46 <@wumpus> yes, I realized in time :)
04:46 < gmaxwell> hahah
04:47 < gmaxwell> Sometimes you just have to laugh, ... something is needed to blow the tears off the keyboard.
04:47 < aj> i've never thought of ops as concealed-carry before though
04:47 < gmaxwell> Perhaps others who share my sense of humor will also laugh at this:  https://www.reddit.com/r/Buttcoin/comments/43kyev/greg_maxwell_accidentally_tells_the_truth/czjhpkz?context=4
04:47 <@wumpus> hahahah me neither
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04:57 < MarcoFalke> travis is green. Looking forward to let gitian heat my room a bit.
04:59 <@wumpus> nice
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05:11 < GitHub88> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 3 new commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/31ec14b74ba3...58a8574400c6
05:11 < GitHub88> bitcoin/master 325c725 Gregory Maxwell: Add whitelistforcerelay to control forced relaying....
05:11 < GitHub88> bitcoin/master 89d113e Gregory Maxwell: Blacklist -whitelistalwaysrelay; replaced by -whitelistrelay.
05:11 < GitHub88> bitcoin/master 58a8574 Wladimir J. van der Laan: Merge #7439: Add whitelistforcerelay to control forced relaying. [#7099 redux]...
05:11 < GitHub115> [bitcoin] laanwj closed pull request #7439: Add whitelistforcerelay to control forced relaying. [#7099 redux] (master...control_relay_force) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/7439
05:12  * gmaxwell waits for the conspiracy theories.
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05:15 < aj> gmaxwell: while wumpus still has his @ drawn? no way man
05:16 < GitHub182> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 1 new commit to 0.12: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/commit/86755bc85a869e7da4c9112604db5132e6dc6823
05:16 < GitHub182> bitcoin/0.12 86755bc Gregory Maxwell: Add whitelistforcerelay to control forced relaying. [#7099 redux]...
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05:23 < wumpus> http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2016-January/000191.html    "Malleus Mikehearnificarum." WTF haha
05:24  * wumpus will be serious from now on, otherwise this channel shall be retagged buttcoin-core-dev
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06:10 < GitHub132> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 2 new commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/58a8574400c6...196ad6913ff5
06:10 < GitHub132> bitcoin/master 6795851 gladoscc: Add link to whitepaper
06:10 < GitHub132> bitcoin/master 196ad69 Wladimir J. van der Laan: Merge #7451: Add link to bitcoin whitepaper...
06:10 < GitHub147> [bitcoin] laanwj closed pull request #7451: Add link to bitcoin whitepaper (master...master) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/7451
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06:33 < GitHub102> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke opened pull request #7453: [0.13] Missing patches from 0.12 (master...Mf1601-013Forwardports) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/7453
06:34 < MarcoFalke> wumpus, actually two pulls missed master. ^
06:35 < wumpus> HUH
06:36 < wumpus> wait, one of those is #7082
06:37 < wumpus> but don't know about "Get rid of inaccurate ScriptSigArgsExpected"
06:39 < wumpus> the other one is #7387
06:40 < wumpus> which has no master counterpart, good catch
06:42 < MarcoFalke> Would it make sense to merge  #7438 into master as well? (To make the #7082-diff smaller?)
06:44 < wumpus> depends on how different the 0.12 and master solution are, the 0.12 one is supposed to be a much simplified version that can go in quickly, in master we don't have so much of a hurry
06:45 < wumpus> but this is exactly why I prefer things to be in master first, this makes sure a major version upgrade is never a reversion
06:46 < wumpus> the only time I deviate from that is right before releases, for last minute changes
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07:24 < Rebroad> quick question.. does bitcoin core check block headers when it receives the headers AND when it receives the block?
07:24 < helo> surely
07:24 < Rebroad> and does the checking of the header take much time? if so, can it skip doing it upon receiving the block since it already did it when it received the header?
07:24 < instagibbs> I believe so since headers can be received out of order.
07:25 < instagibbs> you have to check it meets the correct PoW target once it's in the correct order
07:25 < helo> it can't all of the block (the merkle root) until it receives the block
07:25 < instagibbs> ^ that too
07:25 < helo> all of the block *header
07:25 < Rebroad> helo, yes, it would still need to check the merkle, but it wouldn't need to check the header again, right?
07:25 < helo> it could verify it matched the header it had retrieved instead
07:26 < instagibbs> you'd probably have to read the code to figure it out. The block validation timeline is a bit fuzzy for me. There are various stages.
07:26 < Rebroad> helo, yes... although would that save CPU doing it that way?
07:26 < wumpus> I don't think it will save CPU/time, verifying the header is neglible compared to the rest of block verification
07:27 < Rebroad> helo, and anyway, surely the hash of the block would be enough to be sure it was the same header, wouldn't it?
07:30 < helo> the header is the only part that is hashed afaik.
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07:38 < wumpus> helo: right; all the transactions are hashed in a merkle tree, the result is put in the header, then the header is hashed. THe block as a whole is never hashed.
07:39 < GitHub4> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke opened pull request #7455: [travis] Exit early when check-doc.py fails (master...Mf1601-travisCheckDoc) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/7455
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07:52 < sdaftuar> instagibbs: while blocks can be received out of order, headers are not (we make sure we have the header for hashPrev when accepting a new block header)
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07:52 < instagibbs> derp, DoS risk, right
07:52 < instagibbs> I only know the ConnectBlock code intimately 
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08:49 < MarcoFalke> wumpus, > if [a command] returns an exit code of 1, the following command [...] is still run, but the build will result in a failure. (cited from the travis doc)
08:50 < MarcoFalke> I don't think we can exit early
08:51 < MarcoFalke> At least right now, we are not doing an early exit
08:51 < MarcoFalke> Let's say `make` fails. Travis will still run the rpc test suite
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09:13 < wumpus> MarcoFalke: right, you need to explicitly exit, unless you use 'set -e' to terminate the script on every failed command
09:18 < MarcoFalke> Good enough for our current .travis.yml ...
09:19 < helo> "set -e" has some side effects
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09:21 < wumpus> helo: side effects?
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09:24 < helo> you probably are aware, but just wanted to mention... e.g. you can't check the value of $? with "set -e"
09:30 < wumpus> that's, imo, the main effect, not a side effect :) any non-zero return value will terminate your script so you'll never get to the $? check unless it was 0 
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09:36 < Tasoshi> "[T]his channel shall be retagged buttcoin-core-dev". Lol, I can imagine people taking that out of context
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09:42 < wumpus> well that channel is still empty so apparently no one did
09:48 < Tasoshi> Some people do wonder whether the prevalent thought here is that bitcoin does not work though...
09:50 < wumpus> if it didn't work, why would people bother to keep working on it... anyhow, off topic
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09:56 < Tasoshi> because they have their own ideas of how to "fix it"
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10:57 < Luke-Jr> any objections to redoing https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/7431#issuecomment-177924839 with -mempoolreplace=1 or =fee ?
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11:05 < OxADADA> btcdrak: sounds good
11:06 < OxADADA> -ignore- ^^^
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11:15 < jtimon> #7287 has been merged! Please review #7310 (#7311 and #7091 are libconsensus related too)
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11:30 < Luke-Jr> wumpus: mempoolreplacement change done
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11:34 < AngryInca> Hello!
11:35 < AngryInca> Can anyone tell me, do you have to checkout a specific branch from https://github.com/bitcoinclassic/bitcoinclassic.git to be running bitcoin classic? Or will just https://github.com/bitcoinclassic/bitcoinclassic.git, cd bitcoinclassic, ./autogen.sh && ./configure && make && make install work?
11:40 < paveljanik> OMG
11:40 < instagibbs> You seem to be looking at the wrong repo, try https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin
11:41 < AngryInca> hah, lol, well, thats embarrassing!  No offence.  I'm just looking around different builds.
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12:05 < gmaxwell> k, brought my laptop to current 0.12 and rpc is no longer binding to IPv4. I'm not sure when I last tested 0.12 branch on this host.
12:06 < gmaxwell> 2016-02-01 20:00:39 Binding RPC on address ::1 port 8332
12:06 < gmaxwell> 2016-02-01 20:00:39 Binding RPC on address 127.0.0.1 port 8332
12:06 < gmaxwell> 2016-02-01 20:00:39 libevent: getaddrinfo: address family for nodename not supported
12:06 < gmaxwell> 2016-02-01 20:00:39 Binding RPC on address 127.0.0.1 port 8332 failed.
12:06 < gmaxwell> any idea what might have broken this?
12:07 < OxADADA> is another process running on that port?
12:10 < gmaxwell> No.
12:12 < helo> dns failed, apparently?
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12:22 < gmaxwell> Git master works. 0.12 fails.
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12:32 < gmaxwell> well crap, working now. wtf was that.
12:33 < gmaxwell> (means my master vs 0.12 differential test is likely broken)
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14:39 < Luke-Jr> jonasschnelli: <jonas.schnelli@include7.ch>: host mail.include7.ch[80.74.145.70] said: 554    5.7.1 Service unavailable; Client host [192.3.11.21] blocked using    zen.spamhaus.org; https://www.spamhaus.org/sbl/query/SBL281118 (in reply to    RCPT TO command)
14:40 < OxADADA> uh oh.
14:40 < Luke-Jr> your email host sucks. fix it? :P  (Spamhaus abuses their position to blackmail datacentres)
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15:31 < Luke-Jr> for anyone not reading bitcoin-dev ML: https://github.com/luke-jr/bips/blob/bip-biprevised/bip-biprevised.mediawiki
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16:25 < justanot1eruser> Luke-Jr: you should post on reddit
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16:38 < Luke-Jr> justanotheruser: why?
16:38 < justanotheruser> seems like something they'd be interested in
16:43 < Luke-Jr> https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/43rnhf/bip_process_status_comments_and_copyright_licenses/
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