--- Day changed Mon Mar 07 2016 00:00 -!- frankenmint [~frankenmi@174-25-22-102.ptld.qwest.net] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 00:01 < Naphex> https://queue.acm.org/detail.cfm?id=2209336 00:09 -!- cjcj [2e3b026a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.46.59.2.106] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 00:11 -!- Thireus [~Thireus@vps-92.197.170.217.stwvps.net] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 00:12 -!- BashCo [~BashCo@unaffiliated/bashco] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:18 -!- _alp_ [~alp@104-54-235-28.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 00:20 -!- xabbix [~xabbix@unaffiliated/xabbix] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 00:22 < Naphex> "In the problematic situation, packets queued in a network buffer are only dropped if the buffer is full. Having a big and constantly full buffer which causes increased transmission delays and reduced interactivity, especially when looking at two or more simultaneous transmissions over the same channel, is called bufferbloat. Available channel bandwidth can also end up being unused, as some fast 00:22 < Naphex> destinations may not be reached due to buffers clogged with data awaiting delivery to slow destinations, what is caused by contention between simultaneous transmissions competing for some space in an already full buffer." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CoDel 00:22 < Naphex> a fair queue / codel-like scheduling algorithm for the mempool is starting to be needed 00:23 < gmaxwell> this is unrelated to bitcoin---- an entirely different and largely inapplicable area of science which refers deals with adaptive rate control against invisible remote buffers of unknown capacity. 00:23 < Naphex> yes 00:24 < Naphex> but i am looking for some of its properties 00:24 < Naphex> we have a known capacity limit (1MB) and invisible remote buffers of unknown capacity(mempools?) 00:24 < gmaxwell> I haven not seen anything in this space which is applicable (and I was participating in the IETF AQM working group since the first BOF session on it.) 00:25 < gmaxwell> Naphex: mempools are fixed capacity. 00:25 < gmaxwell> (and priority ordered) 00:26 < Naphex> yep but the capacity is a user preference 00:26 < Naphex> although defaults are presented 00:27 < Naphex> yep - and at the moment it displays increased delays and low interactivity 00:27 < gmaxwell> Naphex: what you're doing there is pattern matching words; this doesn't mean that the things are at all related. 00:28 < Naphex> CoDel distinguishes between two "types" of a queue (or rather, the effects produced by a queue): (mempool beeing the queue / confirmed getting pased) 00:28 < Naphex> gmaxwell: i'm trying to explain it better; i am only trying to think of unconfirmed transactions as a queue 00:29 < gmaxwell> You might want to take your brainstorming elsewhere, this channel is for concrete activity around bitcoin core today. 00:30 < Naphex> i'll take your hint 00:31 < gmaxwell> Naphex: you can try #bitcoin-wizards; but without a more coherent view of the applicability I don't know if it will be productive, but someone there might want to discuss it with you. 00:31 -!- xabbix [~xabbix@unaffiliated/xabbix] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 00:33 -!- Naphex [~naphex@xotika.tv] has quit [Changing host] 00:33 -!- Naphex [~naphex@unaffiliated/naphex] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 00:39 -!- paveljanik [~paveljani@unaffiliated/paveljanik] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:46 -!- MarcoFalke [8af6020a@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.138.246.2.10] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 01:06 -!- jannes [~jannes@178.132.211.90] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 01:07 -!- arowser [~quassel@106.120.101.38] has quit [Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.] 01:08 -!- arowser [~quassel@106.120.101.38] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 01:20 -!- AaronvanW_ [~ewout@x4db430d5.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 01:21 -!- arowser [~quassel@106.120.101.38] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:22 -!- arowser [~quassel@106.120.101.38] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 01:43 -!- flavius5 [~flavius5@46.10.101.64] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 01:48 -!- jtimon [~quassel@35.31.134.37.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 01:49 -!- jtimon [~quassel@35.31.134.37.dynamic.jazztel.es] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:49 -!- BashCo [~BashCo@unaffiliated/bashco] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 01:50 -!- Ylbam [uid99779@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vvdhkusohkoqsfmi] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 01:53 -!- flavius5 [~flavius5@46.10.101.64] has quit [] 01:58 -!- Guyver2 [~Guyver2@guyver2.xs4all.nl] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 01:59 -!- Thireus [~Thireus@vps-92.197.170.217.stwvps.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 02:00 -!- Thireus [~Thireus@vps-92.197.170.217.stwvps.net] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 02:05 -!- go1111111 [~go1111111@104.232.116.217] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 02:16 -!- go1111111 [~go1111111@104.200.154.71] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 02:54 -!- Ylbam [uid99779@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-msbvdmzswgcchqpj] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 03:01 -!- gevs_ [~greg@ip-81-11-204-226.dsl.scarlet.be] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:18 -!- MarcoFalke [8af6020a@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.138.246.2.10] has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 03:19 -!- MarcoFalke [8af602f3@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.138.246.2.243] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 03:20 -!- MarcoFalke [8af602f3@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.138.246.2.243] has quit [Client Quit] 03:20 -!- MarcoFalke [8af6020a@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.138.246.2.10] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 03:20 -!- wallet42 [~wallet42@unaffiliated/wallet42] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 03:27 -!- xiangfu [~xiangfu@111.198.29.53] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 03:38 < AaronvanW_> is CPFP in use today? 03:53 < aj> eligius uses it i think 03:55 < btcdrak> a patch is coming to Core soon: https://bitcoincore.org/en/meetings/2016/03/03/#child-pays-for-parent-cpfp-mining 03:57 -!- gevs [~greg@ip-80-236-217-180.dsl.scarlet.be] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 03:57 -!- gevs [~greg@ip-80-236-217-180.dsl.scarlet.be] has quit [Changing host] 03:57 -!- gevs [~greg@unaffiliated/gevs] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 03:59 -!- laurentmt [~Thunderbi@128-79-141-196.hfc.dyn.abo.bbox.fr] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 04:01 -!- gevs [~greg@unaffiliated/gevs] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:01 -!- laurentmt [~Thunderbi@128-79-141-196.hfc.dyn.abo.bbox.fr] has quit [Client Quit] 04:01 -!- frankenmint [~frankenmi@174-25-22-102.ptld.qwest.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:04 -!- gevs [~greg@ip-83-134-234-96.dsl.scarlet.be] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 04:04 -!- gevs [~greg@ip-83-134-234-96.dsl.scarlet.be] has quit [Changing host] 04:04 -!- gevs [~greg@unaffiliated/gevs] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 04:21 -!- Giszmo [~leo@pc-122-14-46-190.cm.vtr.net] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 04:33 < zibbo> Does anyone have statistics on how many miners implement opt-in rbf logic? 04:51 -!- randy-waterhouse [~kiwigb@opentransactions/dev/randy-waterhouse] has left #bitcoin-core-dev [] 05:10 -!- Noice [~Noice__@2001:1900:2104:2::86] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:14 -!- Noice [~Noice__@2001:1900:2104:2::86] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 05:38 -!- xiangfu [~xiangfu@114.111.167.250] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 05:41 -!- arowser [~quassel@106.120.101.38] has quit [Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.] 05:41 -!- arowser [~quassel@106.120.101.38] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 05:45 -!- xiangfu [~xiangfu@114.111.167.250] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:47 -!- frankenmint [~frankenmi@174-25-22-102.ptld.qwest.net] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 05:48 < GitHub126> [bitcoin] instagibbs closed pull request #7602: [WIP] [RPC] Add call zaptransaction to delete transaction from wallet (master...zaponetx) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/7602 05:59 -!- frankenmint [~frankenmi@174-25-22-102.ptld.qwest.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 05:59 -!- paveljanik [~paveljani@unaffiliated/paveljanik] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 06:01 -!- tucenaber [~tucenaber@unaffiliated/tucenaber] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 06:41 -!- arowser [~quassel@106.120.101.38] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:41 -!- arowser [~quassel@106.120.101.38] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 06:47 -!- Guyver2 [~Guyver2@guyver2.xs4all.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 07:12 -!- kinlo [peter@unaffiliated/kinlo] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 07:17 -!- kinlo [peter@unaffiliated/kinlo] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 07:25 -!- Chris_Stewart_5 [~Chris_Ste@108.61.228.2] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 07:55 -!- frankenmint [~frankenmi@174-25-22-102.ptld.qwest.net] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 08:00 -!- frankenmint [~frankenmi@174-25-22-102.ptld.qwest.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 08:03 -!- asdfasdfarewar [b84b54a2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.184.75.84.162] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 08:04 -!- Thireus [~Thireus@vps-92.197.170.217.stwvps.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 08:24 -!- BashCo [~BashCo@unaffiliated/bashco] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:26 -!- Thireus [~Thireus@vps-92.197.170.217.stwvps.net] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 08:28 -!- Chris_Stewart_5 [~Chris_Ste@108.61.228.2] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 08:35 -!- Guyver2 [~Guyver2@guyver2.xs4all.nl] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 08:41 -!- Chris_Stewart_5 [~Chris_Ste@108.61.228.78] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 08:46 -!- arowser [~quassel@106.120.101.38] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:46 -!- arowser [~quassel@106.120.101.38] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 08:48 -!- BashCo [~BashCo@unaffiliated/bashco] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 08:55 -!- Don_John [~Don@252-223-114-134.nat.resnet.nau.edu] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 09:00 -!- Don_John [~Don@252-223-114-134.nat.resnet.nau.edu] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:06 -!- moli [~molly@unaffiliated/molly] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:06 -!- dagurval [~dagurval@188.166.108.147] has quit [Quit: find me on slack] 09:17 -!- Guest51429 [~chatzilla@97-90-24-187.dhcp.mtpk.ca.charter.com] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 09:17 -!- Guest51429 is now known as [_smitty] 09:27 -!- arichnad [~arichnad@c-73-128-149-185.hsd1.va.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 09:28 -!- laurentmt [~Thunderbi@128-79-141-196.hfc.dyn.abo.bbox.fr] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 09:30 -!- moli [~molly@unaffiliated/molly] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 09:56 -!- MarcoFalke [8af6020a@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.138.246.2.10] has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 09:57 -!- frankenmint [~frankenmi@174-25-22-102.ptld.qwest.net] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 09:57 -!- laurentmt [~Thunderbi@128-79-141-196.hfc.dyn.abo.bbox.fr] has quit [Quit: laurentmt] 10:02 -!- frankenmint [~frankenmi@174-25-22-102.ptld.qwest.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 10:14 -!- wumpus [~quassel@pdpc/supporter/professional/wumpus] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 10:15 -!- wumpus [~quassel@pdpc/supporter/professional/wumpus] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 10:33 -!- wallet42 [~wallet42@unaffiliated/wallet42] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 10:44 -!- Chris_Stewart_5 [~Chris_Ste@108.61.228.78] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 10:55 -!- mrkent [~textual@unaffiliated/mrkent] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 11:27 -!- asdfasdfarewar [b84b54a2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.184.75.84.162] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 11:27 < GitHub188> [bitcoin] laanwj closed pull request #7461: Make internal (core) errors show up in the Qt client. 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