--- Day changed Sun Mar 27 2016 00:01 -!- Alopex [~bitcoin@cyber.dealing.ninja] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:02 -!- Alopex [~bitcoin@cyber.dealing.ninja] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 00:22 -!- JeromeLegoupil [~textual@46-127-102-197.dynamic.hispeed.ch] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 00:49 -!- johnwhitton [~johnwhitt@c-71-202-223-50.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: johnwhitton] 00:51 -!- p15 [~p15@7.91.145.64.client.static.strong-tk2.bringover.net] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 00:51 -!- Alopex [~bitcoin@cyber.dealing.ninja] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:51 -!- johnwhitton [~johnwhitt@c-71-202-223-50.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 00:52 -!- Alopex [~bitcoin@cyber.dealing.ninja] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 01:03 -!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: anttea 01:12 -!- Alopex [~bitcoin@cyber.dealing.ninja] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:13 -!- Alopex [~bitcoin@cyber.dealing.ninja] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 01:14 -!- Don_John [~Don@250-223-114-134.nat.resnet.nau.edu] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:14 -!- Ylbam [uid99779@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-syybjdvhcpicoxxy] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 01:27 -!- Guyver2 [~Guyver2@guyver2.xs4all.nl] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 01:33 -!- AaronvanW [~ewout@unaffiliated/aaronvanw] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 02:06 -!- anttea [~anttea@a88-112-146-73.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 02:07 -!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: anttea 02:19 -!- Guyver2 [~Guyver2@guyver2.xs4all.nl] has quit [Quit: :)] 02:22 -!- Alopex [~bitcoin@cyber.dealing.ninja] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:23 -!- Alopex [~bitcoin@cyber.dealing.ninja] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 02:33 -!- Tasoshi_ [~Tasoshi@unaffiliated/tasoshi] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 02:50 -!- Tasoshi [~Tasoshi@unaffiliated/tasoshi] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 03:06 -!- johnwhitton [~johnwhitt@c-71-202-223-50.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: johnwhitton] 04:22 < GitHub99> [bitcoin] laanwj opened pull request #7751: test_framework: python3.4 authproxy compat (master...2016_03_authproxy_py3compat) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/7751 04:28 -!- frankenmint [~frankenmi@174-25-22-102.ptld.qwest.net] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 04:31 -!- MarcoFalke [05c7b6cb@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.5.199.182.203] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 04:49 -!- laurentmt [~Thunderbi@128-79-141-196.hfc.dyn.abo.bbox.fr] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 05:14 -!- JeromeLegoupil [~textual@46-127-102-197.dynamic.hispeed.ch] has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. 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ZZZzzz…] 07:00 -!- miniwantyougone [~wantyougo@unaffiliated/wantyougone] has left #bitcoin-core-dev [] 07:12 -!- p15 [~p15@7.91.145.64.client.static.strong-tk2.bringover.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 07:15 -!- laurentmt [~Thunderbi@128-79-141-196.hfc.dyn.abo.bbox.fr] has quit [Quit: laurentmt] 07:20 -!- achow101 [~achow101@pool-96-227-114-115.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 07:23 < sipa> i generally see a trend that the number of transactions in a mempool increases, but the number of inputs stays the same over time 07:23 < sipa> indicating that larger transactions disappear faster? 07:41 < Chris_Stewart_5> How does bitcoin core handle the behavior of an undefined hash type for an OP_CHECKSIG op code? Is it just ignored if it isn't a predefined hash type? 07:41 < sipa> it's non-standard, so such transactions don't get relayed 07:41 < sipa> however, inside the blockchain they are valid 07:42 < sipa> the different hashtype behaviours are tested by testing certain bits set in the hashtype, and some bits are ignored 07:43 < Chris_Stewart_5> so for testing this signature 0x304402206177d513ec2cda444c021a1f4f656fc4c72ba108ae063e157eb86dc3575784940220666fc66702815d0e5413bb9b1df22aed44f5f1efb8b99d41dd5dc9a5be6d205205 would the '05' at the end be ignored? 07:44 < sipa> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/blob/v0.12.0/src/script/interpreter.cpp#L991 07:44 < sipa> the 3 lines there determine the behaviour 07:45 < sipa> 05 would be treated the same as 01 07:46 < Chris_Stewart_5> is that what it defaults to since there isn't a fSigHashAll? 07:46 < sipa> 01 causes fAnyoneCanPay=false fHashSingle=false fHashNone=false 07:46 < Chris_Stewart_5> yeah 07:46 < sipa> so does 05, so it is treated the same way 07:47 < sipa> there are really just 6 different behaviours 07:47 < sipa> (as fHashSingle and fHashNone are never both true) 07:47 < Chris_Stewart_5> no 'undefined' behavior so to speak, is the SIGHASH_ALL sort of of a catch all clause in case that none of the flags above are set? 07:48 < sipa> yes, SIGHASH_ALL is just the absence of any of the others 07:49 < Chris_Stewart_5> also what you were saying about mempool size increasing with the input set staying the same size is interesting. Not sure how you came to the conclusion that larger txs disappear faster though 07:49 < Chris_Stewart_5> what does the quantifier large mean? Large in terms of bytes? Output size in terms of coins? 07:49 < sipa> in bytes 07:50 < sipa> as the mempool is limited in size (bytes), but the number of transactions grows, it means that the average size of transactions goes down 07:50 < Chris_Stewart_5> Is the mempool size fixed within bitcoin core or is it limited by the amount of RAM on the node's machine? 07:52 < sipa> it's configured with the -maxmempool=N option, where N is in megabytes of RAM 07:52 < sipa> and its defaults to 300 07:54 < Chris_Stewart_5> So it seems to me that you are inferring as the mempool limit is reached users are purposefully creating smaller transactions to try and have them included in the mempool? 07:54 < sipa> no 07:55 < sipa> the mempool is typically always full these days; transactions are just replaced when higher fee ones come in 07:56 < sipa> and the mempool is different for each node (though there is a strong correlation, of course), but you can't say that "the mempool limit is reached"; it's reached individually for every node independently at different times, depending on what transactions they've seen, and how it's configured 07:59 < Chris_Stewart_5> Could people that are building larger transactions simply have better software to calculate fees? You say 'disappear faster' which i'm assuming just means confirmed? 08:00 < sipa> what i'm seeing shows the opposite: that smaller transactions perhaps have higher feerates in general, so they replace the larger ones 08:03 < Chris_Stewart_5> or does 'disappear faster' mean get kicked out of the mempool? 08:03 < sipa> i don't know :) 08:04 < sipa> can be either 08:04 < Chris_Stewart_5> damn you and your open ended questions :-) 08:14 -!- belcher [~user@unaffiliated/belcher] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 08:16 -!- JeromeLegoupil [~textual@46-127-102-197.dynamic.hispeed.ch] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 08:32 -!- JeromeLegoupil [~textual@46-127-102-197.dynamic.hispeed.ch] has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 08:33 -!- JeromeLegoupil [~textual@46-127-102-197.dynamic.hispeed.ch] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 08:43 -!- JeromeLegoupil [~textual@46-127-102-197.dynamic.hispeed.ch] has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. 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