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00:28 < GitHub34> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke opened pull request #8236: [doc] 0.12.2: prepare release notes (0.12...Mf1606-docReleaseNotes) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/8236
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00:47 < fanquake> wumpus Some issues that can be closed #7861 #7873 #7866
00:47 < fanquake> Also #6701 should have been closed by #7667
00:48 < fanquake> Possibly also #6702
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00:52 < fanquake> #7872 can also be closed. Not sure why this account has opened so many random/meaningless issues.
01:02 < MarcoFalke> done
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01:13 < gmaxwell> Anyone have exact IsSuperMajority heights for BIP30/65/66 on mainnet and testnet handy, by any chance?
01:14 < btcdrak> gmaxwell BIP66 block 363724 according to https://bitcoin.stackexchange.com/questions/38436/when-did-bip66-switch-from-activation-to-enforcement
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01:21 < btcdrak> gmaxwell: BIP65 was activated on block #388380
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01:22 < btcdrak> luke-jr: maybe we should update the BIPs with activation blocks when they activate
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01:32 < btcdrak> gmaxwell: do you mean BIP34? according to the BIP text "Block number 227,835 (timestamp 2013-03-24 15:49:13 GMT) was the last version 1 block."
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02:05 < gmaxwell> uhh. is reindex broken on master for anyone else?
02:06 < gmaxwell> oh it's not broken.
02:06 < gmaxwell> it just looks funny now that it scans headers first.
02:06 < gmaxwell> hm. we might get bug reports on that.
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02:08 <@wumpus> those mrCertified issues are crazy, didn't notice them before, thanks for closing fanquake/MarcoFalke
02:18 < sipa> btcdrak: bips.md has more info
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02:31 < GitHub199> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 1 new commit to 0.11: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/commit/0cd4fb6570f67d40891673bc8c41e473b9753c63
02:31 < GitHub199> bitcoin/0.11 0cd4fb6 Wladimir J. van der Laan: qt: Final translation update on 0.11 branch...
02:32 < gmaxwell> so the first point where     if (block.nVersion >= 2 && IsSuperMajority(2, pindexPrev, consensusParams.nMajorityEnforceBlockUpgrade, consensusParams))
02:35 < gmaxwell> is true is 224413, which seems to suggest that the BIP34 height in the chainparams is wrong?
02:37 < gmaxwell> nevermind. activated vs enforced.
02:37 <@wumpus> phew
02:38 < sipa> gmaxwell: what looks funny about it?
02:39 < sipa> gmaxwell: the chainparams value is the first point where it activated and never went to non-activated anymore
02:40 <@wumpus> maybe add a comment to prevent people panicking from this again in the future :)
02:41 < gmaxwell> I will.
02:41 < gmaxwell> I was in the process of making a patch to remove all the IsSuperMajority code, and replace with simple height checks.
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02:54 < gmaxwell> I think it's weird that we end up with network connections while reindexing.
02:59 <@wumpus> outgoing or incoming?
03:00 < gmaxwell> outgoing.
03:00 <@wumpus> in principle the network code is simply running while reindexing, it just doesn't request blocks nor transactions
03:00 <@wumpus> I don't think that's necessarily wrong
03:01 < gmaxwell> I'm probably only really noticing because I have debugging turned up and the invs are filling up my logs.
03:01 < gmaxwell> Is it useful to have connections up while reindexing?
03:01 < sipa> i guess it may make sense for addr relay
03:01 <@wumpus> no, but it also doesn't hurt, there doesn't need to be a strong coupling between network code and chain handling code
03:02 < sipa> we could extend the dont-request-blocks rule to dont-request-transactions too
03:02 <@wumpus> I think that's already the case?
03:02 < gmaxwell> doesn't appear to be requesting any.
03:02 < gmaxwell> The negatives I can think of: wastes network resources, might defeat "is it working" monitoring. Otherwise, I agree.
03:03 <@wumpus> there is also a paralellism aspect: there will already be connections to request blocks on when the reindexing finished
03:03 < gmaxwell> Thats a point.
03:03 <@wumpus> in any case there doesn't seem to be a strong reason to special-case this, so let's not
03:05 <@wumpus> the amount of network resources 'wasted' during reindex must be negible compared to a running node, and if you really care about (say when benchmarking) that and want to do a pure reindex, pass -connect=0 and disable listening...
03:05 < sipa> wumpus: unfortunately, there is a bug around that
03:05 < sipa> wumpus: we don't start requesting headers when reindex finishes
03:05 < sipa> so only when an inv for a new block arrives, actual sync continues after a reindex
03:05 < gmaxwell> We should probably release note that reindex may look inactive for a period of time at the beginning.
03:05 <@wumpus> that seems wrong
03:06 < sipa> we should fix it
03:06 < sipa> i'll file an issue if there is none already
03:06 < gmaxwell> indeed, but after 3 hours, an extra block delay is not the end of the world. :)
03:07 <@wumpus> on the other hand reindex is just a tool to fix for broken databases, which unfortunately happen much more than they should, but it shouldn't be something people are doing day in day out
03:07 <@wumpus> so I suppose the +/- 10 minute delay is indeed not the end of the world
03:07 < gmaxwell> I think that at some not far future version we should rename reindex to work around bad instructions on the internet that have people reindexing every time they see a shadow.
03:07 <@wumpus> nah
03:08 < sipa> -really-reindex
03:08 < gmaxwell> --rebuild-state
03:08 < sipa> well we do have -reindex-chainstate now
03:08 < sipa> but -reindex itself is still useful when your block files are corrupted
03:08 <@wumpus> for better or worse, there are many legitimate issues solved by a reindex, seems almost sadistic to break all kinds of well-meant guides on the internet. Even if it results in slightly more reindexes besing run all in all.
03:09 < sipa> of course
03:09 < gmaxwell> not yet, but in some near future where awesome improvements reduce the use for ever running it, of course.
03:09 < sipa> same with rescan
03:09 <@wumpus> I'm not a fan of the rename-an-option-to-prevent-people-from-doing-it school if the option isn't a danger of monetary loss
03:09 < sipa> at least the very common advice to fix random problems with a -rescan has died out
03:09 <@wumpus> if there was a purge-privatekeys option for the wallet I would want to rename it eveery release :p
03:10 < sipa> haha
03:10 < gmaxwell> okay. I won't argue for it, I was only motivated by the fact that many of the old reasons are gone.
03:10 < sipa> --steal-my-coins
03:10 < sipa> gmaxwell: do you have evidence of -reindex commonly being suggested for the wrong reasons?
03:10 < gmaxwell> E.g. someone in #bitcoin two days ago was exasperated while on day three of a reindex on an rpi3 that was totally unneeded.
03:11 <@wumpus> the utxo backup fallback woud still be a good idea, we should aim to get it into 0.14
03:11 < gmaxwell> In that case, it was listed as a mandatory step for moving chainstate from x86 to rpi, suggested due non-portability that no longer exists.
03:11 < sipa> wumpus: agree
03:12 <@wumpus> gmaxwell: was that a guide on the wiki? if so it'd be easy to fix
03:12 <@wumpus> if not, we should probably contact the author
03:13 < gmaxwell> (also, for pruning to someday become a default option, we must reduce the incidence of reindex to ~0)
03:13 <@wumpus> do you have a link to that guide?
03:17 < gmaxwell> I thought I asked him, but I didn't. I asked now.
03:18 < GitHub189> [bitcoin] fanquake opened pull request #8238: [WIP][depends] ZeroMQ 4.1.5 && ZMQ on Windows (master...depends-zeromq-4-1-5) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/8238
03:27 < fanquake> Was #6702 solved by #7667 ?
03:29 < fanquake> Can probably close #7724, sipa replied and it seems that the issue is user hardware.
03:34 < fanquake> #7735 Isn't going to happen any time soon, and can probably be closed.
03:37 < fanquake> #7979 can be closed.
03:44 <@wumpus> thanks, done
03:50 < fanquake> #7725 Looks closable, seems like the issue was related directory permissions.
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03:52 < fanquake> #7733 Could be closed as wontfix, as documentation was linked to elsewhere. Unless we need to follow up and add links to the README or something?
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03:55 <@wumpus> agree
03:55 < sipa> fanquake: thanks a lot for going through those issues!
03:56 <@wumpus> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/4095 is a qt issue, and a curious one at that, anyone ever managed to reproduce this?
03:56 <@wumpus> yes, thanks!
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04:02 < fanquake> #5758 Seems to have gone stale, no followup replies.
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04:02 < sipa> fanquake: closed 1.5 years ago?
04:02 <@wumpus> wrong number I think
04:03 < sipa> we need a checksum digit in PR numbers
04:03 < fanquake> Sorry, #5785
04:03 <@wumpus> <:
04:04 < sipa> ack on merging compact blocks?
04:05 < fanquake> #6472 && #7341 can probably be closed now that we've switched to Qt5.6.1
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04:09 < fanquake> Can close #7834 - Changes to the macports portfile have been made upstream, and  parallel builds are working ok normally.
04:14 < btcdrak> sipa: ack.
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04:44 <@wumpus> I've been testing compact blocks on one of my ARM nodes for quite some time, no issues
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05:11 < instagibbs> I see no reason to block merging. Only nits/minor improvements left which can be taken on later.
05:20 <@wumpus> agree
05:20 <@wumpus> okay, hold on tight
05:20  * btcdrak drum roll
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05:31 < GitHub185> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 19 new commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/9e45ef1ef031...e9d76a161d30
05:31 < GitHub185> bitcoin/master 96806c3 Pieter Wuille: Stop trimming when mapTx is empty
05:31 < GitHub185> bitcoin/master 7c29ec9 Matt Corallo: If AcceptBlockHeader returns true, pindex will be set....
05:31 < GitHub185> bitcoin/master cbda71c Matt Corallo: Move context-required checks from CheckBlockHeader to Contextual...
05:31 < GitHub25> [bitcoin] laanwj closed pull request #8068: Compact Blocks (master...udp) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/8068
05:31 <@wumpus> ^^
05:31 < fanquake> Woo
05:31 < instagibbs> \o/
05:32 < btcdrak> oh man
05:32 < btcdrak> yis!
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05:42 < shangzhou> wow
05:51 < GitHub170> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 4 new commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/e9d76a161d30...9f1807af2422
05:51 < GitHub170> bitcoin/master b7bf037 Wladimir J. van der Laan: doc: Mention ARM executables in release process...
05:51 < GitHub170> bitcoin/master 05f64c9 Wladimir J. van der Laan: doc: Mention Linux ARM builds in release notes
05:51 < GitHub170> bitcoin/master 06f40ef Wladimir J. van der Laan: depends: Mention aarch64 as common cross-compile target
05:51 < GitHub183> [bitcoin] laanwj closed pull request #8233: Mention Linux ARM executables in release process and notes (master...2016_06_release_process_arm) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/8233
05:58 <@wumpus> is there any way to see (in the GUI or through RPC) if a wallet is BIP32?
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06:49 < sipa> i'm rebasing segwit on top of compact blocks; they'll be mutually exclusive until we define a means to negotiate witness-or-not in compact blocks
06:49 < sipa> so compact blocks won't work on test where segwit is already defined
06:49 < sipa> s/won't work/won't be used/
06:52 <@wumpus> makes sense for the first version, being clear that it should not stay that way
06:53 < sipa> yes, and fixing it is trivial
06:53 < sipa> but i feel that's beyond the scope of segwit
06:53 < sipa> as that will at the very least testing how they interact in the real world
06:58 <@wumpus> yes
06:59 <@wumpus> though there is the risk that miners may see segwit as a step back, if its activation disables compact blocks
07:00 < sipa> we definitely need to have segwit+compactblock support defined and implement before picking a start time for segwit
07:01 < instagibbs> sipa, for 0.13 you mean?
07:01 < btcdrak> sipa: so step 1 is to merge in master, then step 2 work out the segwit+cb support, then step 3 set starttime?
07:01 < sipa> yes
07:01 <@wumpus> oh! yes that order makes sense
07:04 < instagibbs> cb doesn't matter for 0.12.2, so backport with activation can move forward regardless, right?
07:04 <@wumpus> right, cb doesn't matter for 0.12.2
07:05 < sipa> indeed, backport of segwit and definition of cb+segwit can happen in parallel
07:05 < sipa> when both are done, we can pick a start time
07:07 < btcdrak> neat :)
07:08 < btcdrak> so I assume after CB rebase, it's merge time?
07:09 < sipa> i'm unconfortable with the fact that the codebase since 7910 started and now has diverged so much that the recent changes and integration are not very transparent to review
07:09 < sipa> not so much that nobody has looked at them, but more that there isn't a good way to know whether you've seen everythong
07:09 < sipa> you can look at the merge commit in 7910
07:09 < sipa> but it's pretty big by now
07:10 < btcdrak> i thought we're not merging 7910, but the other cleaned up version?
07:10 < sipa> yes, of course
07:10 < sipa> but 8049 has been rebased constantly
07:12 < btcdrak> also I assume we need to reactivate/hf testnet?
07:12 < sipa> testnet activation is included in both
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07:14 < sipa> but for example, #7935 introduced the concept of gbt_force (bip9 rollouts which the GBT client needs explicit support for)
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07:15 < sipa> in rebased segwit (#8149), the commit that adds GBT support for segwit also introduces the integration with gbt_force
07:15 < sipa> in the old segwit patch (#7910), that integration is completely hidden inside the merge commit with master
07:17 < sipa> other than that, i don't think waiting with merge makes much sense...
07:18 < sipa> looking at the merge commit in 7910 may make sense
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07:18 < sipa> (git show will show you all conflicts it resolved, but the format with double +/- signs is not so simple to read)
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07:28 < fanquake> sipa great work
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07:30 < GitHub86> [bitcoin] laanwj opened pull request #8240: doc: Mention Windows XP end of support in release notes (master...2016_06_windows_xp) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/8240
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07:44 < GitHub198> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 2 new commits to 0.12: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/f3eebcf5158f...9adad33938ec
07:44 < GitHub198> bitcoin/0.12 ffff324 MarcoFalke: [doc] 0.12: prepare release notes
07:44 < GitHub192> [bitcoin] laanwj closed pull request #8236: [doc] 0.12.2: prepare release notes (0.12...Mf1606-docReleaseNotes) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/8236
07:44 < GitHub198> bitcoin/0.12 9adad33 Wladimir J. van der Laan: Merge #8236: [doc] 0.12.2: prepare release notes...
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07:57 < GitHub54> [bitcoin] laanwj opened pull request #8241: 0.13: Disable bad chain alerts (master...2016_06_alexit) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/8241
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10:03 < GitHub1> [bitcoin] paveljanik opened pull request #8242: Check if the macro PKG_PROG_PKG_CONFIG was expanded. (master...20160622_check_pkg-config) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/8242
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19:45 < GitHub58> [bitcoin] dcousens opened pull request #8244: remove unnecessary LOCK(cs_main) (master...patch-1) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/8244
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19:46 < dcousens> uh, I probably meant to ask about https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/8244 here, not #bitcoin-dev
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22:01 < kitty_> Hi I need help please
22:01 < kitty_> Does anyone here know how to contact the bitcoin core wallet support team
22:03 < kitty_> Is there a support team for bitcoin core wallet
22:17 < kitty_> is anyone here
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22:43 < kitty_> is there anyone here that helps with bitcoin core wallet
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22:49 < jl2012> Just ask your question, or try #bitcoin
22:50 < kitty_> what do you mean #bitcoin
22:50 < kitty_> #bitcoin
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