--- Day changed Fri Aug 12 2016 00:07 -!- BashCo [~BashCo@unaffiliated/bashco] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 00:11 < luke-jr> "Helped someone IBD" :P 00:26 -!- Guyver2 [~Guyver2@guyver2.xs4all.nl] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 00:30 -!- laurentmt [~Thunderbi@80.215.138.183] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 00:35 -!- laurentmt [~Thunderbi@80.215.138.183] has quit [Client Quit] 00:42 < sipa> btcdrak: i totally support that idea 01:03 < jl2012> the linux build took 3.5 hours and is still building. Is that normal? 01:04 -!- AtashiCon [arnavion@unaffiliated/arnavion] has quit [Quit: AtashiCon] 01:04 -!- AtashiCon [arnavion@unaffiliated/arnavion] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 01:08 -!- MarcoFalke [~marco@host10-2.natpool.mwn.de] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 01:09 < luke-jr> jl2012: probably the first time for the new dependencies? 01:12 < jl2012> i don't know. the last line of build.log is currently CXX libbitcoin_server_a-miner.o 01:15 < sipa> jl2012: so the linux build is buding for 4 different architectures 01:15 < sipa> and each of those 4 rewuires building all dependencies 01:15 < sipa> including boost 01:15 < sipa> two of them require building qt 01:16 < jl2012> so >3.5 hours is normal? 01:17 < sipa> i believe so 01:17 < jl2012> i give it 8 atom cores and 3GB memory 01:17 < sipa> it's much faster when you do with a sexons te 01:17 < sipa> second time 01:18 -!- Giszmo [~leo@ip5f5ac08d.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 01:19 -!- Guyver2 [~Guyver2@guyver2.xs4all.nl] has quit [Quit: :)] 01:37 < jonasschnelli> btcdrak: Yes. I agree that we need more "gamification"... I'm currently working on a simple mempool visualization 01:38 < jonasschnelli> Reward system... sounds a bit to close to games.. 01:38 < jonasschnelli> which bitcoin definitively isn't 01:47 < sipa> "achievement unlocked! sent a raw transaction on testnet" 01:47 < jonasschnelli> hehe 01:48 < jonasschnelli> "achievement unlocked! You deleted your first private key and lost some coins" 01:48 < murch> jonasschnelli: Oh, that would be a common one ;) 01:49 < jonasschnelli> achievement unlocked! You have encountered your first block-corruption 01:49 * jonasschnelli does stop now 01:50 < murch> but seriously, more visibility of your contributions would be neat. I.e. how many requests your node answered, or how much data you provided to the network 01:50 -!- BashCo [~BashCo@unaffiliated/bashco] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 01:51 < jonasschnelli> murch: Yes. This would be nice. I'm working on stats stuff for Qt 01:52 -!- BashCo [~BashCo@unaffiliated/bashco] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 01:52 < murch> very nice. :) 01:52 < sipa> "achievement unlocked! locked all your coins in a locktime output for 1 year!" 01:52 < jonasschnelli> hehe 01:52 * sipa zZzZ 01:53 < murch> sipa: Do you ever sleep? :p 01:53 < jonasschnelli> He can still blame the jetlag 01:53 < murch> yeah 01:53 < sipa> murch: it's 2am here 01:53 < murch> sipa: I know. ;) 01:54 < murch> apropos jetlag: Would sometime next week in Basel be good for sipa and jonasschnelli? 01:54 < jonasschnelli> I'm here (in Basel) and mostly available for a chat 01:56 < murch> sipa and I would perhaps like to get together for a beer sometime. My sis lives close to Basel, and just made me an uncle, so I'd be around Basel sometime again. sipa proposed that in Basel we could include you. :) 01:57 < murch> sipa: correct me if I'm misrepresenting that 01:57 < sipa> sure, i can come to basel next week 01:58 < murch> jonasschnelli: I'm currently working on a Master thesis on Coin Selection. You might recognize my nickname from Bitcoin.Stackexchange.com ;) 02:00 < jonasschnelli> Yes. We know you murch. 02:00 < murch> oh dear :p 02:00 < jonasschnelli> I'm available next week, mostly afternoons or between 10:00 and 11:00 am local time. 02:05 -!- tucenaber [~tucenaber@unaffiliated/tucenaber] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 02:07 < murch> Okay, how about Thursday afternoon? 02:08 < murch> sipa, jonasschnelli: perhaps we should take this to a private channel? 02:08 < jonasschnelli> yes. 02:11 -!- Ylbam [uid99779@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-iwqmyfyctucwyzna] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 02:11 -!- spudowiar [~spudowiar@unaffiliated/spudowiar] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 02:35 -!- BashCo [~BashCo@unaffiliated/bashco] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:50 -!- Arnavion [arnavion@unaffiliated/arnavion] has quit [Quit: Arnavion] 02:51 -!- Arnavion [arnavion@unaffiliated/arnavion] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 02:59 -!- spudowiar [~spudowiar@unaffiliated/spudowiar] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 03:06 -!- cryptapus [~cryptapus@unaffiliated/cryptapus] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 03:06 -!- spudowiar [~spudowiar@unaffiliated/spudowiar] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 03:17 -!- AaronvanW [~ewout@unaffiliated/aaronvanw] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:21 -!- AaronvanW [~ewout@198pc231.sshunet.nl] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 03:21 -!- AaronvanW [~ewout@198pc231.sshunet.nl] has quit [Changing host] 03:21 -!- AaronvanW [~ewout@unaffiliated/aaronvanw] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 03:35 -!- fengling [~fengling@58.135.95.136] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:36 -!- cjcj [2e3b026a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.46.59.2.106] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 03:37 -!- davec [~davec@cpe-24-243-251-52.hot.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:08 -!- molz [~molly@unaffiliated/molly] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 04:11 -!- BashCo [~BashCo@unaffiliated/bashco] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 04:11 -!- Giszmo [~leo@ip5f5ac08d.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 04:16 -!- jonasschnelli [~jonasschn@unaffiliated/jonasschnelli] has quit [Excess Flood] 04:17 -!- jonasschnelli [~jonasschn@unaffiliated/jonasschnelli] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 04:19 -!- davec [~davec@cpe-24-243-251-52.hot.res.rr.com] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 04:32 -!- fengling [~fengling@58.135.95.136] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 04:37 -!- fengling [~fengling@58.135.95.136] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:00 < GitHub4> [bitcoin] jonasschnelli opened pull request #8501: Add mempool statistics collector (master...2016/08/stats_rpc) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/8501 05:00 -!- To7 [~theo@cpe-158-222-222-232.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Whatever] 05:03 -!- MarcoFalke [~marco@host10-2.natpool.mwn.de] has left #bitcoin-core-dev [] 05:12 -!- JZA [JZA@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-cbhmdcdtowhewzsn] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 05:12 < JZA> is the linux foundation bitcoin-dev the official mailing list for bitcoin-core development? 05:12 < JZA> or is it a satelite one? 05:12 < JZA> is pretty low traffic so I wonder. 05:14 < jonasschnelli> JZA: bitcoin-dev is more for protocol discussion (must not be directly related to Bitcoin-Core) 05:14 < jonasschnelli> There is also a bitcoin-core lf mailing list,... this would be for Bitcoin-Core topics 05:14 < jonasschnelli> But low traffic. 05:15 < wumpus> but even more low-traffic. Most bitcoin developer don't like mailling lists a lot, it seems, most discussion happens on github and IRC 05:15 < michagogo> cfields: Thanks, got my signed sigs pushed. 05:15 < michagogo> https://github.com/bitcoin-core/gitian.sigs/pull/385 05:16 < jonasschnelli> I just built the code-signed binares... are the detaches signatures even already uploaded? 05:17 < wumpus> I'm a bit late with building, turned it on yesterday before going to sleep, but then had the usual lxc-after-reboot issue so it didn't continue 05:19 < michagogo> jonasschnelli: yep 05:20 < michagogo> (otherwise you couldn't have built the code-signed binaries...?) 05:20 < michagogo> 06:46:49  gitian builders: detached sigs pushed for rc3 05:20 < michagogo> (it's 15:20 now) 05:20 < michagogo> wumpus: lxc-after-reboot issue? 05:22 < wumpus> michagogo: yes http://www.hastebin.com/alehoxojen.vbs I get that every time the first time when I run any gitian command after reboot; the second and latter time don't have the issue 05:22 < michagogo> o_O 05:22 < michagogo> Doesn't happen for me in my 14.04 VM 05:23 < wumpus> this is on debian 8.5 05:24 -!- Sosumi [~Leon@bl10-113-190.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Quit: Bye] 05:34 -!- fengling [~fengling@58.135.95.136] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 05:39 -!- fengling [~fengling@58.135.95.136] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:40 -!- moli [~molly@unaffiliated/molly] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 05:57 < jonasschnelli> Anyone interested in testing this: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/7783? 05:57 < jonasschnelli> Factored out to non-gui classes, has now unit tests (as recommended by sipa), would like to see this in 0.14 for the GUI 06:01 < wumpus> I don't agree that the functionality belongs in server.cpp 06:01 < wumpus> this does not act on JSON objects so it dos not belong server-side 06:03 -!- Chris_Stewart_5 [~Chris_Ste@unaffiliated/chris-stewart-5/x-3612383] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 06:03 < wumpus> apart from that I agree this is very useful, in the GUI 06:03 < wumpus> but please no string parsing in the server 06:04 < wumpus> this opens possible vulnerabilities, DoS possibilities, etc 06:04 < wumpus> fine with abstracting out, but then abstract it so that it can work with any dispatching interface (both local and remote) 06:05 < wumpus> I'm not sure that's within the scope of the pull 06:10 -!- murch [~murch@p4FE39901.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 06:12 -!- murch [~murch@p4FE39901.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 06:15 < wumpus> to be clear I really like this funcitonality in the GUI, and possible in bitcoin-cli, but let's not conflate this with hypothetical JSON-RPC nested commanding 06:30 < Chris_Stewart_5> In a partial merkle tree, does a txid that is appended to the binary tree to create an even number of nodes match inside the partial merkle tree? 06:36 -!- fengling [~fengling@58.135.95.136] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 06:36 < Chris_Stewart_5> if that makes any sense.. 06:40 -!- fengling [~fengling@58.135.95.136] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:03 -!- TomMc [~tom@unaffiliated/tommc] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 07:06 < jonasschnelli> wumpus: yes. Agree. I also think we should only have it in the GUI 07:06 < jonasschnelli> The reason for factoring it out was the missed possibility to do unit tests (though I think there are also GUI only unit tests). 07:07 < wumpus> yes, there are also GUI unit tests, though currently they are mostly useless, would be good to add a few 07:07 < jonasschnelli> I think I move it to a GUI only class and cleanup the server client hell. 07:08 < wumpus> in any case, if it belongs in the core it's in rpc/client.cpp, and should take a command dispatcher so that it can be used both in the GUI or in a remote client 07:09 < wumpus> but yes it's simplest to just keep it in the GUI 07:09 < wumpus> then if someone needs it for -cli do this work 07:09 < wumpus> don't overdesign in front 07:35 -!- Cheeseo [~x@unaffiliated/cheeseo] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:35 -!- Cheeseo [~x@c-174-54-219-36.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 07:35 -!- Cheeseo [~x@c-174-54-219-36.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has quit [Changing host] 07:35 -!- Cheeseo [~x@unaffiliated/cheeseo] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 07:37 -!- fengling [~fengling@58.135.95.136] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 07:41 -!- fengling [~fengling@58.135.95.136] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:43 -!- cryptapus [~cryptapus@unaffiliated/cryptapus] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 07:43 -!- cryptapus [~cryptapus@unaffiliated/cryptapus] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 07:55 -!- laurentmt [~Thunderbi@80.215.138.199] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 07:55 -!- laurentmt [~Thunderbi@80.215.138.199] has quit [Client Quit] 08:12 -!- JZA [JZA@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-cbhmdcdtowhewzsn] has quit [Excess Flood] 08:38 -!- fengling [~fengling@58.135.95.136] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 08:43 -!- fengling [~fengling@58.135.95.136] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:56 -!- spudowiar is now known as ruby 08:56 -!- ruby is now known as spudowiar 09:16 -!- arowser [~quassel@106.120.101.38] has quit [Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.] 09:17 -!- arowser [~quassel@106.120.101.38] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 09:39 -!- fengling [~fengling@58.135.95.136] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 09:44 -!- fengling [~fengling@58.135.95.136] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:53 -!- spudowiar [~spudowiar@unaffiliated/spudowiar] has quit [Quit: this WILL work :)] 09:53 -!- spudowiar [~spudowiar@unaffiliated/spudowiar] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 10:00 -!- laurentmt [~Thunderbi@80.215.138.199] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 10:00 -!- laurentmt [~Thunderbi@80.215.138.199] has quit [Client Quit] 10:21 < cfields> jl2012: your gpg key is expired 10:22 -!- PascalCoin [4f912465@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.145.36.101] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 10:24 < PascalCoin> Please, can you tell in which chanel can I give information about a new P2P cryptocurrency? (yet... another one) Thanks! 10:25 < sipa> ##altcoin-dev ? 10:30 < PascalCoin> thanks sipa 10:41 -!- fengling [~fengling@58.135.95.136] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 10:46 -!- fengling [~fengling@58.135.95.136] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:46 -!- spudowiar [~spudowiar@unaffiliated/spudowiar] has quit [Quit: THIS WILL WORK :)] 10:46 -!- spudowiar [~spudowiar@unaffiliated/spudowiar] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 10:46 < jl2012> cfields: it's September? 10:48 < cfields> jl2012: heh, i just replied on the PR. Gitian's display order fooled me again 10:53 -!- arowser [~quassel@106.120.101.38] has quit [Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.] 10:55 -!- arowser [~quassel@106.120.101.38] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 11:13 -!- spudowiar [~spudowiar@unaffiliated/spudowiar] has quit [Quit: hugging is not permitted.] 11:27 < cfields> luke-jr: readability suggestion: you might consider adding .json files and de-serializing them for tests. 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