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00:44 < jonasschnelli> Hmm... IBDing from a local peer (same host) seems to take much longer the bootstraping from random peers.
00:46 < gmaxwell> early in the sync it fetches to few a number of blocks at a time, so fetching from a single peer is slow. hardly matters overall.
00:46 < gmaxwell> other than that, they'll obviously contend a bit for IO
00:46 < gmaxwell> I'm not aware of any other reasons for slowdowns other than that.
00:47 < paveljanik> jonasschnelli, OS X<
00:47 < paveljanik> ?
00:48 < jonasschnelli> paveljanik: no debian on my Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E3-1275 v5 @ 3.60GHz
00:48 < paveljanik> I had the same issue on OS X in the past. unplugging the network cable, turning off firewall helped 8)
00:48 < gmaxwell> are you only looking at the first 150k blocks? or are you seeing the rate per block slower later?
00:48 < paveljanik> the process named powerd took 100% of CPU power
00:49 < jonasschnelli> gmaxwell: It took more then 1h for progress=0.035480 
00:49 < jonasschnelli> (where is did sync with random peers up to progress 1.0 in ~3h [2 month ago though])
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00:50 < gmaxwell> better to look at time vs height, e.g. grab a chunk of 100 blocks wherever it is and comare the blocks per second at that height with the same height in your prior logs.
00:50 < jonasschnelli> Also... my extremely scientific measure of how fast the tail -f output scrolls though.... did tell me its slower
00:51 < jonasschnelli> I guess i let it sync up to h400'000 and then compare it against a sync from random peers
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00:52 < jonasschnelli> The only differences are: -prune=550 and connecting to a node thats running on the same machine (in sync, should not cause a huge slowdown)
00:52  * jonasschnelli needs to write a IBD benchmark tool
00:53 < gmaxwell> prune might make it slower.
00:53 < jonasschnelli> the prune data eviction seems pretty fast
00:53 < gmaxwell> after all it's writing things to only delete it after.
00:53 < jonasschnelli> it's running on a 1GB/s SSD
00:55 < gmaxwell> I doubt anyone has benmarked prune vs not, if you told me that it was doing some linear scan of all the blocks to decide what to prune, every block-- and was thus massively slower, I wouldn't not be too surprised.
00:57 < GitHub55> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 2 new commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/91990ee01dab...6f939c9080a3
00:57 < GitHub55> bitcoin/master cdd79eb Jorge Timón: C++11: s/boost::scoped_ptr/std::unique_ptr/
00:57 < GitHub55> bitcoin/master 6f939c9 Wladimir J. van der Laan: Merge #8629: C++11: s/boost::scoped_ptr/std::unique_ptr/...
00:57  * jonasschnelli is trying again without prune
00:57 < GitHub51> [bitcoin] laanwj closed pull request #8629: C++11: s/boost::scoped_ptr/std::unique_ptr/ (master...0.13-boost-scoped-ptr) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/8629
01:00 < sipa> pruning causes flushing
01:01 < gmaxwell> oh obviously, it needs to make sure that after a restart it can continue, so it hast to at least be consistent to the point where it pruned.
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01:10 < jonasschnelli> What is the reason for the txn_count=0x00 in the headers p2p message?
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01:13 < sipa> because CBlockHeader did not originally exist
01:13 < sipa> and headers messages just contained a CBlock with 0 transactions
01:13 < jonasschnelli> thanks.
01:20 < jeremyrubin> Is it correct that the maximum number of items deleted from sigcache while checking a block is max sigops?
01:20 < sipa> i believe so
01:21 < jeremyrubin> And is that "MAX_BLOCK_SIGOPS_COST" or is that something else
01:22 < jeremyrubin> because I see a 20k number floating around too
01:22 < jeremyrubin> but MAX_BLOCK_SIGOPS_COST=80k
01:22 < sipa> yes, 4x factor from segwit
01:22 < sipa> sigops in non-witness part count as 4, in witness part they count as 1
01:23 < jeremyrubin> so if you have 0 sigops in witness, you can have the full 80k?
01:24 < sipa> if you have 0 sigops in non-witness
01:24 < sipa> yes
01:24 < jeremyrubin> ok cool
01:24 < sipa> pre segwit the max is 20k
01:24 < sipa> post segwit it is 80k
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01:58 < jonasschnelli> with disabled pruning it took also >1h for progress=0.031407... now trying a sync from random peers
02:00 < gmaxwell> you're killin me with the testing with just the first 3%.
02:00 < jonasschnelli> gmaxwell: heh. You think comparing the first 3% does not make sense?
02:01 < jonasschnelli> I just try to not waste time. :)
02:01 < gmaxwell> it's very unrepresentative, as I explaned earlier. We only fetch 16 blocks per peer at a time ... early in the chain this is far too few to keep the system well pipelined, because the blocks take no work to process. :)
02:02 < jonasschnelli> gmaxwell: Okay. I see. But anyways, a sync with a single local peer will then take always longer, right?
02:03 < gmaxwell> yes, somewhat. the difference will only be in the initial part of the chain, but go away later-- at least, whatever issue was due to that.
02:04 < gmaxwell> it's like the 0.13 vs 0.12 reindex, the 0.13 reindex spends 20 minutes at the front reading headers. So it starts off 20 minutes behind, it still finishes earlier.
02:04 < gmaxwell> but if you were to compare reintext for 0.13 vs 0.12 for the first 3% you would likely find 0.13 was much slower. :)
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02:44 < GitHub197> [bitcoin] sipa opened pull request #8651: Predeclare PrecomputedTransactionData as struct (master...classtructblah) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/8651
02:48 < GitHub77> [bitcoin] yurizhykin opened pull request #8652: [qa]: remove root test directory for RPC tests (master...cleanup) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/8652
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03:26 < GitHub76> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 3 new commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/6f939c9080a3...381d0ddc8aaa
03:26 < GitHub76> bitcoin/master cce3024 Pavel Janík: Do not shadow local variable, cleanup
03:26 < GitHub76> bitcoin/master a159f25 Pavel Janík: Remove redundand (and shadowing) declaration
03:26 < GitHub76> bitcoin/master 381d0dd Wladimir J. van der Laan: Merge #8449: [Trivial] Do not shadow local variable, cleanup...
03:26 < GitHub190> [bitcoin] laanwj closed pull request #8449: [Trivial] Do not shadow local variable, cleanup (master...20160803_shadow_blockencodings) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/8449
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03:52 < GitHub29> bitcoin/master b7c349d Pavel Janík: Do not shadow variables in networking code
03:52 < GitHub29> bitcoin/master cbe9ae8 Wladimir J. van der Laan: Merge #8466: [Trivial] Do not shadow variables in networking code...
03:52 < GitHub92> [bitcoin] laanwj closed pull request #8466: [Trivial] Do not shadow variables in networking code (master...20160805_Wshadow_net) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/8466
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04:38 < cfields> jonasschnelli: so your comment on #8085 may not be relevant to those changes?
04:42 < GitHub97> [bitcoin] jl2012 closed pull request #8533: Implement LOW_S and NULLDUMMY softfork (BIP146) (master...bip146) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/8533
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05:58 < cfields> wumpus: re-ping incase you missed in backog. what do you think of the approach here to fix the travis timeouts? https://github.com/theuni/bitcoin/commit/fa88a425c0c1089ab75ea9223699286f40c8eea7
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06:23 < GitHub117> [bitcoin] sstone opened pull request #8653: doc (trivial): add tip for cross-builds on ubuntu (master...wip-doccrosscompile) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/8653
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06:41 < sipa> cfields: looks good to me
06:41 < sipa> jonasschnelli: 3%, how many blocks is that?
06:42  * jonasschnelli checking the logs
06:42 < jonasschnelli> sipa: aprox 211000
06:43 < jonasschnelli> My assumption is that IBD with a single peer is much slower... but can't prove it right now.
06:43 < sipa> jonasschnelli: that seems very wrong
06:43 < sipa> it should take minutes to get to 211000
06:43 < sipa> not an hour
06:44 < sipa> the effect greg talks about it real, but shouldn't last more than a few minutes
06:44 < jonasschnelli> 2016-09-02 08:58:49 UpdateTip: new best=0000000000000345b371caa3f829cacbe2b4d38ecd15a5a02031efae79934d15 height=211000
06:44 < jonasschnelli> 2016-09-02 07:56:40 Bitcoin version v0.13.99.0-df98230
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06:57 < jonasschnelli> sipa: I guess its caused by --enable-debug
06:58 < sipa> oh, yes, that will slow things down tremendously
07:00 < jonasschnelli> sry for the noise... I should finally remember to disable debug mode when benachmarking.
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08:15 < sturles> a/away
08:25 < cfields> sipa: thanks
08:26 < cfields> jonasschnelli: so I should ignore https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/8085#issuecomment-244077083 ?
08:26 < jonasschnelli> cfields: I think so... 
08:26 < jonasschnelli> I'm working on more authentic IBD benchmarks.
08:27 < cfields> jonasschnelli: ok. apples to apples IBD is a good idea though. I'll do some syncs over the weekend
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08:28 < jonasschnelli> cfields: Yes. I was fooled (again) by the bias of --enable-debug and --prune
08:30 < cfields> jonasschnelli: ah, heh. I've fallen into the same trap. Turns out profiles generated with -O0 (for better info) aren't at all representative of real-world usage
08:30 < cfields> so it makes sense that it'd be a major performance killer
08:33 < gmaxwell> jonasschnelli: I think you got caught on debug before, you realize now I'm gonna start asking you? "Are you benchmarking with enable debug again?" :P
08:34 < jonasschnelli> heh... yes.
08:34 < btcdrak> Jonas 'debug' schnelli
08:34 < sdaftuar> cfields: i don't think i have seen segwit.py fail locally for the reason mentioned in #8532
08:34 < sdaftuar> gmaxwell: please set up an irc autoresponder so the rest of us don't forget to ask him too :)
08:34 < cfields> sdaftuar: ah, ok
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08:36 < sdaftuar> it seems like the most common reason my rpc tests fail is the communicat() timeout thing i reported in #8649, and then new test runs failing when old bitcoind's haven't been killed from prior test runs (sigh)
08:44 < GitHub85> [bitcoin] jl2012 opened pull request #8654: Reuse sighash computations across evaluation (rebase of #4562) (master...sighashcache) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/8654
08:56 < wumpus> cfields: looking
08:59 < wumpus> cfields: looks good to me, doesn't even require any new signals!
09:00 < wumpus> cfields: any reason to not put the signal subscription/unsubscription in StartRPC/StopRPC? 
09:01 < wumpus> cfields: oh duh, those are general methods
09:01 < wumpus> cfields: if there was a rpcblockchain.init/deinit, it would fit there
09:02 < wumpus> cfields: but this is ok; maybe mark the RPC calls that they are primarily meant for testing and/or set them as hidden?
09:02 < wumpus> (e.g. I can see complaints from people hanging the RPC server this way with no clue what they're doing)
09:03 < sipa> agree
09:05 < cfields> wumpus: yep, makes sense
09:05 < cfields> and yes, i kinda abused the existing signals there. I figured you'd be grumpier about it, hence the poke rather than PR :)
09:07 < wumpus> cfields: well the important thing is that all other processing has been done at the time of the signal; does this guarantee that?
09:08 < wumpus> (I guess the answer is yes, as there is no async processing, although it could depend on the order in which the handlers are called?)
09:09 < sipa> by default i think handlers are called in the order they were added
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09:09 < cfields> wumpus: i believe it's fine, but i'll double-check.
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09:10 < cfields> wumpus: since it abuses the ui signal, i'm not sure we need to worry about the order? Looking to see who else receives that
09:11 < wumpus> sipa: yes, but that is a really fragile thing to rely on
09:11 < wumpus> cfields: ok, yes that makes sense, if the UI signal is last 
09:12 < wumpus> cfields: indeed there's no need to be worried doing things concurrently with the GUI
09:12 < wumpus> (usually that won't be running anyhow during RPC testing, although it's possible)
09:12 < cfields> it doesn't guarantee that we've acted on relaying appropriately, though all we could guarantee there anyway is that we've queued up some messages
09:13 < cfields> right
09:15 < cfields> yes, only other user is qt for updating gui
09:27 < GitHub78> [bitcoin] paveljanik opened pull request #8655: Do not shadow variables (trivials) (master...20160902_Wshadow_trivials) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/8655
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09:52 < phantomcircuit> jonasschnelli, the p2p network contains a bunch of nodes which exist only to monitor people and as a side effect have bizarre behaviour
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11:58 < GitHub12> [bitcoin] paveljanik opened pull request #8656: Do not shadow global variable fileout (master...20160902_Wshadow_fileout) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/8656
12:01 < instagibbs> sipa, where is chainActive loaded on init? Having trouble tracking that down.
12:04 < sipa> instagibbs: ActivateBestChain?
12:04 < sipa> LoadBlockIndex?
12:06 < instagibbs> eh yes, but it got moved around and I'm flailing
12:07 < instagibbs> I'll track it down
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12:09 < instagibbs> ah i misunderstood what wallet init was doing with it, nevermind, thanks
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13:09 < GitHub70> [bitcoin] paveljanik opened pull request #8658: WIP/DO NOT MERGE: Remove unused statements in serialization (master...20160902_nVersion_serialization_cleanup) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/8658
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