--- Day changed Fri Sep 23 2016 00:11 -!- xinxi_ [~xinxi@116.86.38.246] has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 01:06 -!- Guyver2 [~Guyver2@guyver2.xs4all.nl] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 01:38 < phantomcircuit> i was thinking of using an RAII wrapper for the CWalletDB pointer in CWallet 01:38 < phantomcircuit> does anybody have an opinion on how that should be structured 01:43 < phantomcircuit> luke-jr: they do all kinds of silly things compared to 1MB/10 minutes 01:43 -!- blaker [5513dbb6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.85.19.219.182] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 01:43 < luke-jr> phantomcircuit: IBD isn't 1 MB/10 min 01:49 -!- paveljanik [~paveljani@unaffiliated/paveljanik] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:59 < wallet42> is there a proposal of having NODE_2WEEKS or something like that? a node that guarantees the serve of all block headers + the bodies for the past 2016 blocks but nothing earlier? 02:00 < luke-jr> wallet42: no, I don't know that there's value to it 02:01 < luke-jr> wallet42: next step seems like it would be something where nodes all store a random assortment of history similar to bittorrent swarms, but even that's unnecessary today 02:01 -!- JackH [~laptop@79-73-187-144.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 02:02 < wallet42> i think sipa posted a while ago a histogram showing the #getblocks[height] 02:03 < wallet42> and its obviously heavily dispropotionate towards the recent blocks 02:05 < wallet42> if you can configure the node to only serve the last 2 weeks (especially with the NODE_BLOOM overhead) it makes it cheaper. also 2 weeks of blocks can be held completly in RAM/mmap so running the bloom filter doesnt even requires HDD/SDD access 02:05 < luke-jr> yes, but there is no shortage of dumb servers that serve the full chain anyway 02:06 -!- blaker [5513dbb6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.85.19.219.182] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 02:07 -!- blaker [5513dbb6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.85.19.219.182] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 02:08 < blaker> hi bitcoin core devs. I am at a conference where a talk later today called 'exploiting trust in deterministic builds' is going to be presented. Since you use reproducible builds maybe it is of interest. paper should be available via springer 02:18 -!- blaker [5513dbb6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.85.19.219.182] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 02:25 -!- [Author] [~Author]@2401:a400:3202:2000:bad:d09:15:90d] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 02:30 -!- [Author] [~Author]@2401:a400:3202:2000:bad:d09:15:90d] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 02:36 < jl2012> It seems #8499 is considered as a blocker for 0.13.1. Could I do anything to make the review easier? 02:58 -!- DigiByteDev [~JT2@220.241.252.65] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 03:33 -!- Alina-malina [~Alina-mal@unaffiliated/alina-malina] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 03:37 < wumpus> gmaxwell: it ended up where most of my projects go, unfortunately. to the long backlog, I still intend to do it some time. Or anyone else can pick it up if they want. 03:45 < GitHub132> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 2 new commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/2b514aa2eae6...5d0219d983b6 03:45 < GitHub132> bitcoin/master f839350 Pavel Janík: Do not shadow in src/qt 03:45 < GitHub132> bitcoin/master 5d0219d Wladimir J. van der Laan: Merge #8793: Do not shadow in src/qt... 03:45 < GitHub128> [bitcoin] laanwj closed pull request #8793: Do not shadow in src/qt (master...20160922_Wshadow_qt) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/8793 03:49 -!- DigiByteDev [~JT2@220.241.252.65] has quit [Quit: DigiByteDev] 03:54 -!- DigiByteDev [~JT2@220.241.252.65] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 03:55 < phantomcircuit> wallet42: there have been various ideas for doing some kind of sharding they all have issues though 03:55 < phantomcircuit> you really dont want to rebalance constantly 03:55 < phantomcircuit> but you also dont want the blocks a node stores to be based on when it joined the network 03:56 < phantomcircuit> achieving both goals turns out to be non trivial 03:57 < sipa> i've been keeping statistics on the depth of blocks being requested from my node 03:57 < sipa> the tip is of course by far the most requested (though i'm not counting CB HB mode sends) 03:58 < sipa> but after about 2 months deep the distribution is almost uniform down to genesis 03:58 < luke-jr> how long have you been keeping statistics? (2 months? :P) 03:59 < sipa> eh, yes 03:59 * luke-jr curious what it will look like 3 months from now 03:59 < sipa> but the numbers i'm aggregating are for the block depth compared to the tip at the time it was requested 03:59 < luke-jr> oh, hm 03:59 < sipa> not absolute height 04:02 < sipa> it's much more spread out than i had anticipated, actually 04:02 < sipa> this implies that a lot of people sync while being 1-2 months behind 04:02 < sipa> overall, it's 7.5 million block downloads 04:02 < sipa> so not just some random outliers 04:03 < sipa> about 100k of which are at the tip 04:07 < sipa> and there are strange peaks around 820 deep and 1970 deep 04:52 -!- midnightmagic [~midnightm@unaffiliated/midnightmagic] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 04:56 < GitHub8> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 2 new commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/5d0219d983b6...d2e46558ba0e 04:56 < GitHub8> bitcoin/master 6d0ced1 Gregory Maxwell: Do not set an addr time penalty when a peer advertises itself.... 04:56 < GitHub8> bitcoin/master d2e4655 Wladimir J. van der Laan: Merge #8661: Do not set an addr time penalty when a peer advertises itself.... 04:56 < GitHub141> [bitcoin] laanwj closed pull request #8661: Do not set an addr time penalty when a peer advertises itself. (master...addrman_nopenalty_self) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/8661 05:09 -!- midnightmagic [~midnightm@unaffiliated/midnightmagic] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 05:18 -!- DigiByteDev [~JT2@220.241.252.65] has quit [Quit: DigiByteDev] 05:21 -!- DigiByteDev [~JT2@220.241.252.65] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 05:29 -!- Guyver2_ [~Guyver2@guyver2.xs4all.nl] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 05:31 -!- Guyver2 [~Guyver2@guyver2.xs4all.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:31 -!- Guyver2_ is now known as Guyver2 05:36 -!- cryptapus_afk is now known as cryptapus 05:39 -!- Evel-Knievel [~Evel-Knie@d5152f744.static.telenet.be] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 05:43 -!- Alina-malina [~Alina-mal@37.157.216.133] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 05:47 -!- Alina-malina [~Alina-mal@37.157.216.133] has quit [Changing host] 05:47 -!- Alina-malina [~Alina-mal@unaffiliated/alina-malina] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 06:15 < jonasschnelli> Anyone interested in reviewing the "generic"-statistics PR (currently mempool only)? https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/8501 06:15 < jonasschnelli> The GUI mempool stats are based on that PR 06:21 -!- stan_ [~stan@rrcs-67-251-193-154.nyc.biz.rr.com] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 06:24 -!- To7 [~theo@cpe-158-222-222-232.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Whatever] 06:24 -!- DigiByteDev [~JT2@220.241.252.65] has quit [Quit: DigiByteDev] 06:27 -!- jtimon [~quassel@150.110.132.37.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 06:30 -!- tadasv [ttttt@gateway/shell/panicbnc/x-gruuuqrezizolbha] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 06:43 -!- To7 [~theo@cpe-158-222-222-232.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 06:51 -!- paveljanik [~paveljani@unaffiliated/paveljanik] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 06:52 -!- Guyver2 [~Guyver2@guyver2.xs4all.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:02 -!- shesek [~shesek@bzq-84-110-55-68.red.bezeqint.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 07:14 -!- molz [~molly@unaffiliated/molly] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 07:18 -!- moli [~molly@unaffiliated/molly] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 07:18 -!- shesek [~shesek@bzq-84-110-58-65.red.bezeqint.net] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 07:23 -!- Giszmo [~leo@pc-40-227-45-190.cm.vtr.net] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 07:49 -!- tadasv [ttttt@gateway/shell/panicbnc/x-qexnwdspicgtxlqa] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 08:11 -!- mrkent [~textual@unaffiliated/mrkent] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 08:21 -!- Chris_Stewart_5 [~Chris_Ste@unaffiliated/chris-stewart-5/x-3612383] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 08:32 < dgenr8> sipa: it sounds like an exponential dropoff from existing nodes syncing, plus a constant level of new nodes being spun up or reloaded 09:06 -!- Chris_Stewart_5 [~Chris_Ste@unaffiliated/chris-stewart-5/x-3612383] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 09:18 < jonasschnelli> To bad github doesn't allow editing a review after posting it 09:19 < jonasschnelli> or do I miss something? 09:19 < achow101> jonasschnelli: nope, not missing anything. 09:19 < jonasschnelli> hmm.. I hope they will add this soon 09:23 < GitHub48> [bitcoin] jonasschnelli pushed 8 new commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/d2e46558ba0e...24f72e9f3fd0 09:23 < GitHub48> bitcoin/master 0904c3c Jonas Schnelli: [Refactor] refactor function that forms human readable text out of a timeoffset 09:23 < GitHub48> bitcoin/master bd44a04 Jonas Schnelli: [Qt] make Out-Of-Sync warning icon clickable 09:23 < GitHub48> bitcoin/master a001f18 Jonas Schnelli: [Qt] Always pass the numBlocksChanged signal for headers tip changed 09:23 < GitHub168> [bitcoin] jonasschnelli closed pull request #8371: [Qt] Add out-of-sync modal info layer (master...2016/07/UI-out-of-sync) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/8371 09:41 < morcos> cfields: gentle ping 09:41 < cfields> morcos: pong 09:41 < morcos> just wanted to follow up on the copy-move 09:42 < morcos> i thought you had already had move to prevector though in that branch? 09:42 < cfields> morcos: i messed with the move stuff yesterday. I can push my changes if you'd like, but i traced through to see where it's called (I put asserts in the moves), and they're almost zero 09:42 < morcos> ah, so we need to make moves of transactions or scripts or something? 09:42 < cfields> morcos: so i think if there's any benefit that you're seeing, it's probably in a very subtle change: 09:43 < cfields> morcos: that's what i did in the commit, so they're all movable now. but, we're pretty good about not doing that 09:43 < cfields> (there are .swap()s all over the place) 09:43 < morcos> its a clear benefit, but unfortunately in one of the vagaries of this stuff, the benefit is reduced with jeremy's replacement for the boost lockfree queue. not sure why in the world that would be the case 09:44 < morcos> where are the few places its called? 09:44 < cfields> i have few possible explanations there 09:44 < cfields> brb 2 min 09:48 < cfields> morcos: ok, back. First let me push up those changes so we can be sure we're comparing the same things. 1 min. 09:55 -!- molz [~molly@unaffiliated/molly] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 09:56 -!- moli [~molly@unaffiliated/molly] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 09:56 < cfields> morcos: sigh. as usual, i had my wires crossed. I was looking at the wrong branch. Yea, the moves are already in there so you're already testing with that 09:57 < cfields> apparently i re-did that yesterday with no memory of doing it the first time... 09:57 < morcos> cfields: np. but do you still think it shouldn't be much improvement? 09:57 < morcos> oh no 09:57 < morcos> ha 09:58 < cfields> morcos: i don't think there are many moves, no. I think jeremy's code might've gotten rid of the few that are there. sec 10:02 < cfields> hm, maybe not. looks like it just saves on allocation 10:04 < cfields> morcos: it should be pretty easy to compare copies/moves before/after the checkqueue changes. We could just add static incrementors for all copies and moves and see how they change 10:04 < cfields> morcos: do you have a specific bench you've been using to test? 10:07 < morcos> cfields: sorry i wasn't clear. it wasn't the checkqueue changes. it was the sigcache lock contention fix. i had been using a boost lockfree queue and jeremy wrote a custom "cuckoo cache" which i like the design of a lot 10:08 < morcos> without your copy/move changes they are equivalent , but with, the boost lock free queue improves more 10:08 < morcos> very odd 10:08 < morcos> should be unrelated i think 10:08 < morcos> anyway, don't worry about it 10:08 < morcos> only thing that would be useful if you could point me to where the moves happen the most.. but i'm going down 3 other rabbit holes at the moment, so don't get distracted from whatever you're doing 10:08 < cfields> oh, i see. Sounds like you had some copies/moves in your boost branch, then 10:09 < sipa> cuckoo cache, sounds fancy! 10:10 < morcos> sipa: it's cool! 10:11 < sipa> i know cuckoo hashtables 10:11 < sipa> it is related? 10:11 < morcos> yep 10:14 < cfields> morcos: i believe the only hot move is in the checkqueue. https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/blob/master/src/checkqueue.h#L150 10:14 < cfields> and obviously that's not very significant 10:15 < morcos> cool thx 10:18 < cfields> morcos: and here are my changes to make the moves go away: http://pastebin.com/raw/LpGPzjFu 10:19 < cfields> the emplace in CheckInputs could be significant if don't have something like that in your branch already 10:35 -!- Yogh [~Yogh@f36186.upc-f.chello.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 10:37 -!- Yogh [~Yogh@f36186.upc-f.chello.nl] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 10:54 -!- molz [~molly@unaffiliated/molly] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 10:54 -!- moli [~molly@unaffiliated/molly] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 10:56 -!- mol [~molly@unaffiliated/molly] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 10:59 -!- molz [~molly@unaffiliated/molly] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 11:03 -!- Chris_Stewart_5 [~Chris_Ste@unaffiliated/chris-stewart-5/x-3612383] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 11:14 -!- gabridome [~gabridome@host188-15-dynamic.180-80-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 11:18 < jeremyrubin> ls 11:18 < jeremyrubin> oops 11:18 < jeremyrubin> cfields: that code already exists on his branch 11:27 < morcos> sipa: if you don't know, i'll try to figure it out. But among the consequences of the txChanged PR that made syncWithWallets happen in ActivateBestChain instead of ConnectTip, is you could get a reordering of when SyncWithWallets is called on various txs 11:28 < morcos> For instance if during the processing of ABC, you both connect tips and disconnect them trying to find the longest valid chain... for all the connects you'll be building up syncWithWallets to call at the end and for all the disconnects you'll be calling SyncWithWallets as you go 11:29 < morcos> i don't have a good mental model for how SyncWithWallets should be used 11:29 < morcos> perhaps i should be asking jonasschnelli 11:47 < cfields> jeremyrubin: ah, thanks 11:52 < morcos> sipa: jonasschnelli: well, as far as i can tell it seems ok i guess.. but i don't know how to be very confident 11:55 -!- gabridome [~gabridome@host188-15-dynamic.180-80-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Quit: gabridome] 12:01 -!- gabridome 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