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01:58 < jonasschnelli> Yes. Pressing on the warning icon is not really elegant UX
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02:13 < wumpus> jonasschnelli: are you on MacOSX? can you please check if the libc function daemon() is available?
02:13 < jonasschnelli> wumpus: Yes. It's available
02:13 < jonasschnelli> daemon(int nochdir, int noclose);
02:13 < wumpus> thanks, yes that'sthe one
02:13 < jonasschnelli> I'm on OSX 10.10
02:14 < wumpus> let's extend this: can anyone with a UNIX-ish OS that is not Linux please check this? I've checked OpenBSD and it does, at least.
02:14 < jonasschnelli> daemon is a standard BSD function, BSD is the base-system of darwin (fork)
02:14 < wumpus> right
02:15 < wumpus> so I think we can just rely on that any OS that support daemonization in the first place and runs bitcoin core has that call
02:16 < wumpus> didn't BSD come up with deamons in the first place :)
02:17 < wumpus> this would make https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/8278 trivial
02:20 < wumpus> even better, we can remove the windows-specific path. Windows doesn't have daemon(), so it wouldn't support --daemonize
02:21 < wumpus> going to do a pull for this
02:25 < sipa> windows has background services, but their purpose seems a bit different, as they just avoid being tied to abuser session
02:26 < gmaxwell> what does-- say-- apache do on windows?
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02:28 < luke-jr> I would be surprised if it didn't install as a system service
02:28 < wumpus> windows is out of scope here
02:28 < wumpus> we don't support that yet, and the point of this pull is not to support anything on wnidows
02:28 < wumpus> it's just to simplify and improve behavior on UNIX
02:29 < sipa> agree, just saying that the corresponding concept on windows has a different goal
02:29 < wumpus> windows services are a completely different animal, you can't just spawn them arbitrarily like UNIX daemons, they're more like /etc/init.d services installed as root
02:29 < wumpus> oh I agree with that
02:30 < sipa> maybe it makes sense to support that when we have done more use for wallet-less/wallet-split support
02:30 < wumpus> yes, it may be worthwhile to work on, but it won't share any code with -daemonize, it's more like the "how to install as a system service" guide that we have for some linux distros
02:32 < wumpus> I'm afraid it takes a lot of OS-specific code and registry wrangling
02:32 < luke-jr> looking over some old code I wrote for a Windows service, it's probably ~100 LOC
02:32 < luke-jr> maybe ~200
02:32 < wumpus> as well as needs to set up an account to run it under
02:32 < wumpus> you won't want to spawn it as ADMINISTRATOR
02:32 < luke-jr> >_<     
02:33 < wumpus> (or "local services" which is pretty much admin-equiv)
02:38 < paveljanik> jonasschnelli, I have started testnet Qt with the current master from scratch, only bitcoin.conf remained. There is no overlay window showing it is synchronizing. Should it be displayed?
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02:38 < paveljanik> Can't click on triangle with excl. mark...
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02:39 < GitHub26> [bitcoin] laanwj opened pull request #8813: bitcoind: Daemonise using daemon(3) (master...2016_09_daemonize) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/8813
02:39 < paveljanik> I understood that this is the primary use case where it should be shown.
02:40 < luke-jr> wumpus: well, Windows isn't going to be secure no matter what user Core runs as  <.<
02:40 < GitHub11> [bitcoin] laanwj closed pull request #8278: Forking daemon (master...forking-daemon) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/8278
02:40 < wumpus> luke-jr: sure, but if we do it, we need to support best practices
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02:49 < wumpus> the help message for -daemon is pretty strange: "Run in the background as a daemon and accept commands". Run in the background, check. Accept commands? Don't we always?
02:50 < wumpus> (well strictly unless you set -server=0, but it has nothing to do with the daemon option)
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03:09 < GitHub50> [bitcoin] laanwj closed pull request #8451: Get rid of the const field in CTransaction (master...noconsttx) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/8451
03:17 < btcdrak> gmaxwell: Apache registers Windows services
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03:29 < wumpus> MarcoFalke: btw https://github.com/jgarzik/univalue/pull/27 is passing now, it was just a temporary hiccum with MacOSX as you thought
03:29 < MarcoFalke> jup     
03:29 < MarcoFalke> jgarzik already merged it
03:30 < wumpus> it still shows as open here
03:30 < MarcoFalke> oh, my osx fix
03:30 < MarcoFalke> I mean
03:30 < wumpus> oh okay
03:31 < paveljanik> jonasschnelli, please ignore it. It is shown correctly when you use correct tree/binary 8)
03:31 < wumpus> I didn't know you did an osx fix
03:36 < MarcoFalke> https://github.com/jgarzik/univalue/pull/28
03:36 < MarcoFalke> jonasschnelli: Does the sync overlay block the gui for you when you do reindex?
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03:43 < MarcoFalke> re ^ https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/8371#pullrequestreview-1462647
03:44 < MarcoFalke> I think we can do this without any lock to cs_main
03:44 < MarcoFalke> Will try to create a pull this week.
03:45 < MarcoFalke> (Or at least reduce the locking, but get rid of the fHeader "shortcut")
03:53 < wumpus> I wonder, is windows on 32 bit even still a thing these days?
03:55 < MarcoFalke> Windows XP 32 bit seems to be the most common os these days
03:55 < wumpus> it wouldn't make me terribly sad if we had to only support one architecture for windows
03:55 < wumpus> well the train for XP support has already failed
03:55 < wumpus> :p     
03:57 < wumpus> I think android is the most common OS these days
03:59 < wumpus> but I don't think we should support that out of the box before there is some kind of SPV fallback for the wallet
04:04 < wumpus> in any case I think windows 32 bit is dead or dying as a platform. Linux 32-bit still makes some sense for VMs, I suppose.
04:04 < wumpus> I mean x86. ARM 32 makes obvious sense.
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04:35 < GitHub61> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 3 new commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/37871f216e0d...4e1567acff4b
04:35 < GitHub61> bitcoin/master 9a75d29 Wladimir J. van der Laan: devtools: Check for high-entropy ASLR in 64-bit PE executables...
04:35 < GitHub61> bitcoin/master 62c2915 Wladimir J. van der Laan: build: supply `-Wl,--high-entropy-va`...
04:35 < GitHub61> bitcoin/master 4e1567a Wladimir J. van der Laan: Merge #8249: Enable (and check for) 64-bit ASLR on Windows...
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04:35 < GitHub135> [bitcoin] laanwj closed pull request #8249: Enable (and check for) 64-bit ASLR on Windows (master...2016_06_windows64_security) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/8249
04:35 < wumpus> huh isn't it *daemonize* instead of *daemonise*? confused
04:35 < sipa> british vs american?
04:36 < sipa> daemonize seems more common
04:36 < wumpus> what is the UNIX spelling?
04:36 < wumpus> yes, I thought so
04:37 < paveljanik> getting testnet IBD finished is a pain...
04:39 < wumpus> daemonize appears 2 times in the current source, daemonise 0 times, clear, changing the PR to keep sanity
04:41 < wumpus> paveljanik: why so?
04:42 < paveljanik> wumpus, doing it the second time here. Both stuck at block ~892320.
04:42 < wumpus> stuck in what way?
04:42 < paveljanik> 8 peers
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04:42 < paveljanik> no progress in received blocks
04:42 < wumpus> any errors in the log?
04:42 < paveljanik> no     
04:43 < paveljanik> many got inv, received inv
04:43 < paveljanik> debug console shows 0 txs in mempool
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04:43 < paveljanik> it was a rm -rf testnet3 run. In both cases...
04:44 < paveljanik> 12 weeks ago in both cases.
04:44 < paveljanik> hmm.
04:44 < paveljanik> all nodes are 12.99+
04:45 < MarcoFalke> paveljanik: A stalling issue?
04:45 < paveljanik> yup     
04:45 < MarcoFalke> ugh     
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04:46 < MarcoFalke> Does it disconnect peers?
04:46 < paveljanik> Syncyng headers
04:47 < wumpus> I haven't done a testnet sync from scratch in quite a while, maybe I should
04:47 < paveljanik> all peers at 947573
04:47 < MarcoFalke> Hmm, I saw some slow header syncs yesterday. I blamed my slow internet...
04:47 < wumpus> maybe I should try it in a win 32-bit VM for extra masochism points
04:47 < wumpus> nah     
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04:49 < sipa> paveljanik: all witness capable peers?
04:50 < paveljanik> all NETWORK & BLOOM & WITNESS
04:50 < sipa> did you reindex?
04:50 < paveljanik> in both cases rm -rf testnet3 full IBD
04:51 < paveljanik> from scratch
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04:57 < wumpus> restarting (e.g., to get new peers) didn't solve it either?
04:57 < GitHub167> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 2 new commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/4e1567acff4b...ab0b411868e1
04:57 < GitHub167> bitcoin/master faef293 MarcoFalke: [wallet] Add high transaction fee warnings
04:57 < GitHub167> bitcoin/master ab0b411 Wladimir J. van der Laan: Merge #8486: [wallet] Add high transaction fee warnings...
04:57 < GitHub138> [bitcoin] laanwj closed pull request #8486: [wallet] Add high transaction fee warnings (master...Mf1607-walletHighFeeWarn) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/8486
04:58 < MarcoFalke> Wondering if 8738 should be locked. 
04:58 < paveljanik> wumpus, no.
04:58 < paveljanik> I even tried to rm peers.dat and restart 
04:58 < MarcoFalke> paveljanik: So debug=net show nothing?
04:58 < wumpus> MarcoFalke: oh no, rebroad got involved too
04:58 < paveljanik> MarcoFalke, will try
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05:00 < phantomcircuit_> wumpus: i apologize for how long it takes in advance
05:00 < wumpus> MarcoFalke: locked it
05:01 < wumpus> jonasschnelli: the comment nit was already solved in #8813, remember that github won't hide changes anymore.
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05:05 < paveljanik> sent getheaders to all peas, received 947582
05:05 < paveljanik> Ignoring getheaders from peer=9 because node is in initial block download
05:05 < paveljanik> from all of them
05:05 < phantomcircuit_> wumpus: is there a particular pattern we're already using for RAII wrappers for db handles or things?
05:05 < phantomcircuit_> it's gonna need to be reference counted
05:05 < wumpus> a shared pointer?
05:06 < wumpus> std::shared_ptr is automagically reference counted
05:06 < paveljanik> looks like we are ignoring too much when n IBD
05:06 < phantomcircuit_> wumpus: yeah except none of the functions know whether they were the originally called method
05:07 < phantomcircuit_> there's public methods which call each other
05:07 < phantomcircuit_> so the first one creates the CWalletDB object and the rest use a private member
05:08 < phantomcircuit_> but doing that just with a shared pointer wont work cause the private member isn't destroyed
05:08 < wumpus> or create your own RAII wrapper, though I prefer going with existing c++11 features where possible
05:08 < wumpus> esp eith reference counting it's kind of easy to introduce off-by-one errors
05:09 < jonasschnelli> wumpus: Arg. Yes. I still find it confusing to see old code on the PR page. :) But probably good for clear documentation.
05:09 < wumpus> " except none of the functions know whether they were the originally called method" I'd suggest to fix that first 
05:09 < wumpus> create explicit API methods and internal helper methods
05:09 < phantomcircuit_> hmm     
05:09 < wumpus> this helps with locking too
05:09 < phantomcircuit_> yeah i guess just fixing the api first would be the way to go
05:09 < MarcoFalke> wumpus: https://travis-ci.org/bitcoin-core/univalue/settings. Is it enabled for pull requests?
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05:10 < wumpus> and make the internal helper methods private so that external clients won't be tempted into calling them
05:10 < wumpus> MarcoFalke: yes
05:11 < wumpus> MarcoFalke: both for pushes and prs
05:11 < MarcoFalke> Hmm, didn't pick it up: https://github.com/bitcoin-core/univalue/pull/3
05:13 < paveljanik> peers send me: getheaders (which I ignore because of still in IBD), sendheaders, sendcmpct, pong, headers
05:14 < wumpus> MarcoFalke: bah, no travis buttons either
05:15 < jonasschnelli> paveljanik: Ignoring getheaders seems correct.. 
05:15 < jonasschnelli> During IBD
05:16 < wumpus> MarcoFalke: it doesnt look like travis is doing anything there
05:16 < wumpus> MarcoFalke: no builds at all yet
05:16 < MarcoFalke> Oh, maybe it needs at least one build at master...
05:16 < wumpus> just going to merge your pull, let's see if that will get travis to test
05:17 < wumpus> oh! it's starting
05:17 < MarcoFalke> heh     
05:17 < wumpus> did anyone do anything?
05:19 < sipa> paveljanik: did you ever send a getheaders?
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05:20 < paveljanik> yes, to all peers
05:21 < paveljanik> I'm now grepping though the old log, because I'm trying reindex
05:22 < paveljanik> and then received: headers (163 bytes) peer=1
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05:26 < wumpus> can anyone please make a browser extension that hides github's big green 'merge' button? :-)
05:27 < jonasschnelli> heh... yes. Some local CSS injection.
05:27 < sipa> alternative: can we pay github to add a setting to remove it?
05:28 < achow101> why do you want that?
05:28 < wumpus> I've already requested that feature once, they actually have a per-repository option to remove it in some cases
05:28 < paveljanik> sipa, I sent this: initial getheaders (947583) to peer=1
05:28 < wumpus> but you can't disable it in all cases, and they don't  intend to do that :(
05:28 < paveljanik> ie. I know the current height, but do not have blocks...
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05:31 < wumpus> achow101: because I don't want to accidentally use that button instead of the script that we wrote for merging+signing
05:31 < wumpus> and the button seems to be explicitly designed to be big and green and easy to accidentally click
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05:31 < wumpus> I guess in the next version it will follow the mouse cursor :p
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05:34 < MarcoFalke> can it be disabled on events such as travis fails?
05:35 < wumpus> yes     
05:35 < MarcoFalke> We could add another "CI" (maybe a linter) and have it return false all the time
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05:36 < wumpus> I've thought about that, but I think the UI impact of that is even worse. No green checkmarks anymore
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05:44 < GitHub193> [bitcoin] laanwj closed pull request #7857: Add fee option to fundrawtransaction (master...enhancement/add-fee-to-fundrawtransaction) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/7857
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05:53 < GitHub87> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 2 new commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/ab0b411868e1...bb843adc8d04
05:53 < GitHub87> bitcoin/master 381826d Wladimir J. van der Laan: bitcoin-cli: More detailed error reporting...
05:54 < GitHub87> bitcoin/master bb843ad Wladimir J. van der Laan: Merge #8722: bitcoin-cli: More detailed error reporting...
05:54 < GitHub154> [bitcoin] laanwj closed pull request #8722: bitcoin-cli: More detailed error reporting (master...2016_09_cli_http_error) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/8722
05:59 < GitHub192> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke opened pull request #8814: [wallet, policy] ParameterInteraction: Don't allow 0 fee (master...Mf1607-walletHighFeeWarn) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/8814
06:03 < GitHub105> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 3 new commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/bb843adc8d04...dd20ed1223b9
06:03 < GitHub105> bitcoin/master ddddaaf MarcoFalke: [rpc] Deprecate getinfo...
06:03 < GitHub105> bitcoin/master fa6e71b MarcoFalke: [qa] Add getinfo smoke tests and rework versionbits test
06:03 < GitHub105> bitcoin/master dd20ed1 Wladimir J. van der Laan: Merge #8780: [rpc] Deprecate getinfo...
06:03 < GitHub160> [bitcoin] laanwj closed pull request #8780: [rpc] Deprecate getinfo (master...Mf1609-getinfoDeprecate) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/8780
06:03 < MarcoFalke> ^ for release notes, if someone feels like adding this
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06:11 < GitHub103> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 2 new commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/dd20ed1223b9...8f1fbf36a769
06:11 < GitHub103> bitcoin/master c14ffd5 jonnynewbs: [trivial] fix mempool comment (outdated by BIP125)
06:11 < GitHub103> bitcoin/master 8f1fbf3 Wladimir J. van der Laan: Merge #8796: [trivial] fix mempool comment (outdated by BIP125)...
06:11 < GitHub85> [bitcoin] laanwj closed pull request #8796: [trivial] fix mempool comment (outdated by BIP125) (master...trivial_comment) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/8796
06:12 < paveljanik> -reindex and it is slowly walking up - 892349 now
06:12 < paveljanik> happily requesting blocks, getdata...
06:16 < paveljanik> Strange. Have to leave now :-(
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07:23 < GitHub173> [bitcoin] laanwj closed pull request #8772: [0.13] Backports (0.13...backports-0.13) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/8772
07:23 < GitHub162> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 55 new commits to 0.13: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/8d9e8adc05f4...254e990ce5c3
07:23 < GitHub162> bitcoin/0.13 c6a6291 instagibbs: add witness address to address book...
07:23 < GitHub162> bitcoin/0.13 733760a BtcDrak: Update btcdrak signing key...
07:23 < GitHub162> bitcoin/0.13 3606b6b instagibbs: Update p2p-segwit.py to reflect correct AskFor behavior...
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07:34 < MarcoFalke> wumpus: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/8712 is a trivial cherry-pick, which was missed in ^
07:35 < wumpus> yes, I'm working on a new pull for the remaining ones
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07:38 < wumpus> isn't #8418 needed in 0.13.1 as well?
07:38 < wumpus> otherwise some recent pulls become harder to backport as they all make changes in those tests
07:39 < sipa> i don't think it ever hurts to backport tests
07:39 < sipa> it just may mean more work
07:39 < wumpus> well it hurts if the functionality tested doesn't exist
07:39 < wumpus> but compactblocks does, right?
07:40 < sipa> compact blocks is in 0.13
07:40 < wumpus> right
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07:45 < wumpus> seems #8418 applies without any changes to 0.13 (though haven't actually run the tests yet)
07:48 < wumpus> another thing is, #8739 was tagged for 0.13.1, that makes no sense at all without #8418
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07:48 < sdaftuar> wumpus: it should!  i actually thought it was already merged in 0.13
07:48 < sdaftuar> sorry about that confusion with 8739
07:48 < wumpus> no problem, fixing it now
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07:54 < GitHub120> [bitcoin] laanwj opened pull request #8815: Backports for 0.13.1 (0.13...2016_09_backports_0_13_1) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/8815
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08:00 < wumpus> finally, https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pulls?q=is%3Apr+milestone%3A0.13.1+is%3Aclosed+label%3A%22Needs+backport%22 empty
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09:37 < paveljanik> the third sync on testnet was OK. Strange.
09:37 < paveljanik> slow, but ok
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09:50 < GitHub176> [bitcoin] czzarr opened pull request #8816: print P2WSH redeemScript in getrawtransaction if it s not a pubkey (master...print-p2wsh-redeemscript-in-getrawtransaction) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/8816
09:51 < GitHub154> [bitcoin] czzarr closed pull request #8816: print P2WSH redeemScript in getrawtransaction if it s not a pubkey (master...print-p2wsh-redeemscript-in-getrawtransaction) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/8816
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13:17 < paveljanik> MarcoFalke, can you please check #8808 for the same binaries now? I reverted one hunk (trivial one though 8) which cause me problems here and now travis is OK.
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13:18 < MarcoFalke> I think I did 20 minutes ago and it didn't match
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13:28 < GitHub18> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke pushed 2 new commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/8f1fbf36a769...2f71490d2179
13:28 < GitHub18> bitcoin/master c9ce17b Derek Miller: Trivial: Grammar and capitalization
13:28 < GitHub18> bitcoin/master 2f71490 MarcoFalke: Merge #8805: Trivial: Grammar and capitalization...
13:28 < GitHub129> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke closed pull request #8805: Trivial: Grammar and capitalization (master...master) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/8805
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14:08 < GitHub106> [bitcoin] jnewbery opened pull request #8817: update bitcoin-tx to output witness data (master...bitcoin-tx-witness) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/8817
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15:12 < achow101> is there a way to disable segwit activation on regtest?
15:15 < btcdrak> another openssl advisory https://www.openssl.org/news/secadv/20160926.txt
15:25 < gmaxwell> achow101: change the dates in the chainparams.
15:25 < achow101> I guess that's one way to do it..
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15:35 < sipa> achow101: use a miner that doesn't support segwit :)
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21:38 < GitHub138> [bitcoin] fanquake opened pull request #8820: [depends] Fix Qt compilation with Xcode 8 (master...depends-qt-xcoderun) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/8820
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22:00 < luke-jr> what's holding back https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/8357 ?
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23:47 < jonasschnelli> wumpus: regarding the UTXO set cursor you have implemented in #7756...
23:48 < jonasschnelli> once you create the cursor, new changes won't affect itteration?