--- Day changed Sat Jul 01 2017 00:16 -!- SopaXorzTaker [~SopaXorzT@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 00:16 -!- goatpig [5a5c653a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.90.92.101.58] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:30 -!- arowser [~quassel@45.32.248.113] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:36 -!- arowser [~quassel@45.32.248.113] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 00:37 < wumpus> going to time catch-up syncs from there to tip as well 00:39 < wumpus> might be interesting to plot the validation times per block w/ debug=bench too 01:29 -!- Ylbam [uid99779@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-btzzjbyspipbcyyx] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 02:01 < wumpus> not only is the sync faster, it seems to have less impact on the rest of the system, catching up the chain used to make any other things like browsing impossible on this system. Doesn't seem to be so much a CPU difference (CPU wasn't maxed out in either case) but memory usage/IO related. 02:05 < gmaxwell> yea, I've noticed that too. Some of it I think might be the big peak memory usage and gigantic all at once writes was blowing out buffers. 02:06 < wumpus> indeed! 02:09 -!- Yogaqueef [~textual@dsl-hkibng42-5673c3-32.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 02:11 -!- mryandao [~mryandao@unaffiliated/mryandao] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:23 < phantomcircuit> the configure scripts dont seem to be able to find db5.3 on gentoo 02:23 < phantomcircuit> luke-jr, any idea what's wrong here? 02:24 < phantomcircuit> (and yes i know it's supported to be db 4.8 but i have a wallet that's 5.3) 02:24 < luke-jr> nope, sorry 02:24 < luke-jr> I assume you used --with-incompatible-bdb? 02:25 -!- mkarrer [~mkarrer@158.red-83-53-16.dynamicip.rima-tde.net] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 02:25 < phantomcircuit> yeah 02:25 < phantomcircuit> checking the config.log there's no mention of even looking for 5.3 02:25 < phantomcircuit> i wonder if something got removed on accident 02:39 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@unaffiliated/aaronvanw] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 02:57 -!- mkarrer [~mkarrer@158.red-83-53-16.dynamicip.rima-tde.net] has quit [] 03:00 -!- unholymachine [~quassel@2601:8c:c003:9f16:80ad:9d66:dec5:c8be] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 03:06 -!- unholymachine [~quassel@2601:8c:c003:9f16:a96c:ec59:9879:6031] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 03:18 -!- wangchun [~wangchun@li414-193.members.linode.com] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 04:13 -!- goofie [~goofie@104-7-174-119.lightspeed.hstntx.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 04:38 -!- chjj [~chjj@unaffiliated/chjj] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 04:42 -!- goofie [~goofie@104-7-174-119.lightspeed.hstntx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 04:49 -!- chjj [~chjj@unaffiliated/chjj] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 05:15 -!- SopaXorzTaker [~SopaXorzT@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:21 -!- SopaXorzTaker [~SopaXorzT@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 05:45 -!- dermoth [~dermoth@gateway/tor-sasl/dermoth] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 05:45 -!- dermoth_ [~dermoth@gateway/tor-sasl/dermoth] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 07:13 -!- laurentmt [~Thunderbi@176.158.157.202] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 07:13 -!- laurentmt [~Thunderbi@176.158.157.202] has quit [Client Quit] 07:45 -!- Giszmo [~leo@pc-240-13-215-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 07:47 -!- jahbless [~iceman@196-210-22-90.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 08:16 -!- Hawkwind [ad125923@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.18.89.35] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 09:03 -!- Dyaheon [~Dya@a91-156-192-39.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 09:04 -!- Dyaheon [~Dya@a91-156-192-39.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 09:12 -!- jahbless [~iceman@196-210-22-90.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 09:29 -!- Aaronvan_ [~AaronvanW@unaffiliated/aaronvanw] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 09:29 -!- Aaronvan_ [~AaronvanW@unaffiliated/aaronvanw] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:34 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@unaffiliated/aaronvanw] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 09:51 -!- Giszmo [~leo@pc-240-13-215-201.cm.vtr.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 09:55 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@unaffiliated/aaronvanw] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 10:01 -!- Hawkwind [ad125923@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.18.89.35] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 10:03 -!- chjj [~chjj@unaffiliated/chjj] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 10:16 -!- chjj [~chjj@unaffiliated/chjj] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 11:19 -!- jamesob [~jamesob@c-73-241-180-136.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 11:24 -!- jamesob [~jamesob@c-73-241-180-136.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 11:47 -!- jamesob [~jamesob@c-73-241-180-136.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 11:47 -!- jamesob [~jamesob@c-73-241-180-136.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:47 -!- jamesob [~jamesob@c-73-241-180-136.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 11:51 -!- Guyver2 [~Guyver@guyver2.xs4all.nl] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 11:52 -!- jamesob [~jamesob@c-73-241-180-136.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:06 -!- chjj [~chjj@unaffiliated/chjj] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:13 -!- chjj [~chjj@unaffiliated/chjj] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 12:27 -!- Guyver2 [~Guyver@guyver2.xs4all.nl] has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 12:42 -!- madgoat [~GK.1WM.SU@192.240.212.2] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 12:43 -!- madgoat [~GK.1WM.SU@192.240.212.2] has left #bitcoin-core-dev [] 13:49 -!- jamesob [~jamesob@c-73-241-180-136.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 13:49 -!- Giszmo [~leo@pc-240-13-215-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 13:53 -!- jamesob [~jamesob@c-73-241-180-136.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:59 -!- SopaXorzTaker [~SopaXorzT@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:17 -!- CubicEarth [~cubiceart@c-67-168-4-85.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 14:34 -!- Yogaqueef [~textual@dsl-hkibng42-5673c3-32.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 14:47 -!- belcher_ [~belcher@unaffiliated/belcher] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 14:49 -!- jamesob [~jamesob@c-73-241-180-136.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 14:54 -!- jamesob [~jamesob@c-73-241-180-136.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 15:30 -!- CubicEarth [~cubiceart@c-67-168-4-85.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [] 15:38 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@unaffiliated/aaronvanw] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 15:41 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@unaffiliated/aaronvanw] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 15:41 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@unaffiliated/aaronvanw] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:36 < kanzure> "frustrating that the RPC isn't versioned and massively breaking changes like this are just introduced without any versioning and/or flags" i guess something like that could work, shouldn't getblock start throwing up warnings at least even if not versioned? 16:36 < kanzure> s/shouldn't/couldn't/ is more accurately my question. 16:42 < sipa> kanzure: ? 16:42 < sipa> what is the context? 16:42 < sipa> we try very hard not to break RPC 16:42 < kanzure> btcd issue tracker someone is complaining about getblock/testnet/segwit 16:43 < sipa> oh, btcd 16:44 < kanzure> yes but the complaint is about bitcoind rpc versioning not btcd rpc versioning 16:44 < sipa> hmm, what was broken? 16:50 -!- jamesob [~jamesob@c-73-241-180-136.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 16:55 -!- jamesob [~jamesob@c-73-241-180-136.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 17:01 < kanzure> sipa: https://github.com/btcsuite/btcd/issues/962#issuecomment-312452244 17:01 < kanzure> ah wait, i didn't notice the flag comment. ok fine, then it's just a question of what's the default, a much less interesting question to me. 17:03 < sipa> if this would be introduced now, i think we'd add a naned argument to control this, rather than change the defaukt 17:19 < gmaxwell> Other than some historical artifacts I don't think it's correct to say we changed the default. 17:19 < gmaxwell> getblock returns the block. If there is segwit, there is segwit. 17:19 < gmaxwell> oh you mean that we have that argument. 17:20 < gmaxwell> The argument exists so that existing software which can't handle segwit blocks can be run _unmodified_, having a named argument wouldn't satisify this. 17:20 < gmaxwell> It's a compatibility measure. 17:21 < gmaxwell> And not one that anyone should be using except for a brief window to allow you to slot in a new node version. 17:21 < gmaxwell> Keep in mind our rational for avoiding softforks in major versions: we're trying hard to accomidate people upgrading to enforce the softfork without breaking any of their surrounding infrastructure. 17:24 < gmaxwell> If you could upgrade your software to emit the named argument, you'd just upgrade it to cope with the new serialization. It's hardly more work. 17:29 < kanzure> yes i didn't know about that extra argument mentioned in that issue ticket, (thus my "nevermind" and sudden disinterest). if they want the flag off then they should have kept it off, simple problem. 17:31 -!- owowo [~ovovo@unaffiliated/ovovo] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:36 -!- owowo [~ovovo@unaffiliated/ovovo] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 17:36 -!- chjj [~chjj@unaffiliated/chjj] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 17:52 -!- chjj [~chjj@unaffiliated/chjj] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 17:52 -!- jamesob [~jamesob@c-73-241-180-136.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 17:57 -!- d9b4bef9 [~d9b4bef9@web501.webfaction.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:57 -!- jamesob [~jamesob@c-73-241-180-136.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 17:58 -!- d9b4bef9 [~d9b4bef9@web501.webfaction.com] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 18:12 -!- shesek [~shesek@unaffiliated/shesek] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 18:46 -!- str4d [~str4d@216.9.110.12] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 19:08 < phantomcircuit> luke-jr, it's because the m4 script looks for db5 but not db5.3 19:08 < phantomcircuit> and gentoo doesn't have a symlink 19:09 < phantomcircuit> hmm maybe not 19:10 -!- belcher_ [~belcher@unaffiliated/belcher] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:10 < phantomcircuit> no yeah that's the issue 19:10 < phantomcircuit> hmm 19:24 -!- Dyaheon [~Dya@a91-156-192-39.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 19:26 -!- Dyaheon [~Dya@a91-156-192-39.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 19:43 -!- dermoth_ [~dermoth@gateway/tor-sasl/dermoth] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:53 -!- jamesob [~jamesob@c-73-241-180-136.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 19:58 -!- jamesob [~jamesob@c-73-241-180-136.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20:09 -!- dermoth_ [~dermoth@gateway/tor-sasl/dermoth] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 20:21 -!- echonaut [~echonaut@46.101.192.134] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:21 -!- echonaut [~echonaut@46.101.192.134] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 20:53 -!- str4d [~str4d@216.9.110.12] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 21:55 -!- jamesob [~jamesob@c-73-241-180-136.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 21:58 < gmaxwell> aaee787a2a9090cb4f7159e2328f260343ae7fded220849e21a8519be61ebe37 message82.txt 21:59 -!- jamesob [~jamesob@c-73-241-180-136.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 22:19 < gmaxwell> eaab23579c6ccc0ed40de16aae51c3945359d9b6938d6a01c8094b98875678b4 message83.txt 22:34 -!- arowser [~quassel@45.32.248.113] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 22:41 -!- arowser [~quassel@45.32.248.113] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 23:22 -!- arowser [~quassel@45.32.248.113] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:26 -!- arowser [~quassel@45.32.248.113] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 23:38 -!- PaulCapestany [~PaulCapes@ip72-209-228-52.dc.dc.cox.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:39 -!- PaulCape_ [~PaulCapes@ip72-209-228-52.dc.dc.cox.net] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 23:54 -!- goatpig [5a5c653a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.90.92.101.58] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 23:56 -!- jamesob [~jamesob@c-73-241-180-136.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev