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00:06 < meshcollider> thanks :)
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00:56 < meshcollider> So no IRC meeting this week right?
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04:34 < meshcollider> is this intended behavior? https://i.imgur.com/juKAf1O.png the credit shows the full 7 BTC which was received by the wallet, but it was received on 2 separate addresses in the same transaction (3 and 4 BTC respectively), because from looking at that transaction details window it looks like the full 7 BTC was received on just that one address
04:35 < meshcollider> heh I forgot, everyones in SF so no one will be online at 4:30am sf time
04:37 < meshcollider> but I have a feeling this might be what the change to transactiondesc.cpp in #7101 was trying to fix 
04:46 < esotericnonsense> meshcollider: this is feeling oddly familiar, i think i encountered this years ago when splitting coins
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05:10 < esotericnonsense> meshcollider: i just tried to test this but forgot that there's special behaviour if you send to your own wallet, doh
05:11 < meshcollider> I just ran 2 regtest nodes on the same machine to do this 
05:12 < meshcollider> just run one with -port=whatever and then addnode=127.0.0.1:whatever in the other nodes config
05:13 < esotericnonsense> crafted another one by using -wallet.
05:14 < esotericnonsense> this tx, with 4 outputs, 3 to 'wallet2' and 1 to change in 'wallet1', is showing as three seperate entries/rows in the 'wallet2' node.
05:15 < meshcollider> yep but if you go into the full details of each row, do they all just give the total, not the individual received by that address?
05:15 < esotericnonsense> ah yes.
05:16 < esotericnonsense> it's a bit odd in any case. on the 'sending wallet' it apportions the fee arbitrarily to one output.
05:17 < meshcollider> indeed
05:18 < meshcollider> seems like lots of little bugs are mixed up in this 
05:18 < esotericnonsense> receiving end https://i.imgur.com/w4zF6FL.png https://i.imgur.com/SjAAd4x.png https://live.blockcypher.com/btc-testnet/tx/a739c64487f122f8b41644d2f703811167e8613ef616d17346a4570d72f20698/
05:18 < esotericnonsense> it's difficult for me to reason about what you even want it to show really :P
05:21 < meshcollider> Yeah I guess the fee being attributed to a random output kinda makes sense right, its gotta be shown somewhere and you wouldn't want to make another whole row for it in the table
05:22 < meshcollider> its just the full details page, if you open it for any row from the same transaction it should show all inputs from that same transaction right, not just the one. Then it would make sense to have a total on there
05:23 < meshcollider> in a similar way to how its shown on the sending node
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05:26 < meshcollider> like, this makes sense for sending https://i.imgur.com/Oz5X45l.png but this doesn't make sense to me for receiving https://i.imgur.com/H5wHdmJ.png
05:27 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] practicalswift opened pull request #11264: [doc] Fix broken Markdown table in dependencies.md (master...dependencies-capitalization) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/11264
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08:58 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke closed pull request #10731: Escape rather than remove any printable characters in UAs (master...log_more_uacomment) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/10731
09:00 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke closed pull request #10748: [config] Help text cleanup (master...helptextcleanup) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/10748
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09:01 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] jonasschnelli pushed 2 new commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/2a56baf395bf...9c8f3655cc68
09:01 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master d2be7b2 James Evans: Typo in optionsdialog.ui...
09:01 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 9c8f365 Jonas Schnelli: Merge #10911: [qt] Fix typo and access key in optionsdialog.ui...
09:02 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] jonasschnelli closed pull request #10911: [qt] Fix typo and access key in optionsdialog.ui (master...master) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/10911
09:04 < MarcoFalke> wumpus: Mind to add the git log to the release notes?
09:04 < MarcoFalke> I'd like to take a look before tagging final
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09:20 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj opened pull request #11267: rpc: update cli for estimatefee argument rename (master...2017_09_renamed_estimatefee_arg) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/11267
09:20 < wumpus> MarcoFalke: ah shit, still need to do that, good point. Not sure I have all the tooling here.
09:21 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] jonasschnelli pushed 2 new commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/9c8f3655cc68...ea729d55b4db
09:21 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master ee4d149 Matt Corallo: Drop upgrade-cancel callback registration for a generic "resumeable"...
09:21 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master ea729d5 Jonas Schnelli: Merge #10770: Drop upgrade-cancel callback registration for a generic "cancelable"...
09:21 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] jonasschnelli closed pull request #10770: Drop upgrade-cancel callback registration for a generic "cancelable" (master...2017-07-upgrade-cancel-nits) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/10770
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09:52 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke reopened pull request #10748: [config] Help text cleanup (master...helptextcleanup) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/10748
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10:02 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] jonasschnelli pushed 2 new commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/ea729d55b4db...a3624ddb1a3b
10:02 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 9b348ff Dan Raviv: Fix memory leaks in qt/guiutil.cpp...
10:02 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master a3624dd Jonas Schnelli: Merge #11156: Fix memory leaks in qt/guiutil.cpp...
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10:03 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] jonasschnelli closed pull request #11156: Fix memory leaks in qt/guiutil.cpp (master...fix/qt-guiutil-memory-leaks) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/11156
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10:16 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] jonasschnelli opened pull request #11268: [macOS] remove Growl support, remove unused code (master...2017/09/rm_growl) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/11268
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10:49 < MarcoFalke> cfields: Our travis builds are still broken since yesterday (they bumped the trusty image)
10:49 < MarcoFalke> I have no idea what is going on
10:49 < MarcoFalke> Mind to take a look?
10:49 < MarcoFalke> https://github.com/travis-ci/travis-ci/issues/8315#issuecomment-327537437
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10:50 < MarcoFalke> We could reroll to the deprecated image, maybe
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11:17 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] donaloconnor opened pull request #11269: [Trivial Fix] CTxMemPoolEntry::UpdateAncestorState: modifySiagOps param type (master...fix_params_branch) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/11269
11:20 < wumpus> uh oh, the travis upgrade thing happened?
11:20 < wumpus> travisgeddon
11:21 < MarcoFalke> Yeah, looks like other projects are switichg back to the "deprecated" image
11:22 < MarcoFalke> If someone feels like creating a pr: Add `group: deprecated-2017Q3` to .travis.yml
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11:47 < kanzure> for this meeting i will be typing everyone's messages. thanks.
11:52 < aj> kanzure: always wanted to be a relay bot when you grew up?
11:55 < wumpus> MarcoFalke etc: draft PR list for 0.15.0 is here https://github.com/bitcoin-core/bitcoin-devwiki/wiki/Pulls-listing-for-0.15.0-(temporary)
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11:56 < sipa> that's a long list!
11:56 < wumpus> yes, it's scary :)
11:57 < wumpus> and that's already with most trivials and refactors removed
11:57 < sipa> is it usually that long for a major release?
11:57 < wumpus> a new record every release
11:58 < wumpus> unless I screwed something up while generating it and this is the list since 0.3.x instead ;)
11:58 < sipa> ha     
12:00 < sipa> MEETING
12:00 < wumpus> lol     
12:01 < achow101> meeting
12:01 < sdaftuar> hi     
12:01 < achow101> ?     
12:01 < jnewbery> hi     
12:01 < meshcollider> Hello :)
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12:01 < gmaxwell> #bitcoin-core-dev Meeting: wumpus sipa gmaxwell jonasschnelli morcos luke-jr btcdrak sdaftuar jtimon cfields petertodd kanzure bluematt instagibbs phantomcircuit codeshark michagogo marcofalke paveljanik NicolasDorier jl2012 achow101
12:01 < instagibbs> hi     
12:01 < BlueMatt> no?     
12:01 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj opened pull request #11270: travis: Use deprecated trusty image (master...2017_09_travis_deprecated_image) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/11270
12:02 < MarcoFalke> wha?
12:02 < CodeShark> are we doing this meeting? lol
12:02 < MarcoFalke> topics ... ?
12:02 < cfields> hi     
12:02 < BlueMatt> we already said we were not doing meeting this week
12:02 < BlueMatt> iirc
12:02  * sipa suggests: lunch
12:02 < BlueMatt> ^^^     
12:02 < wumpus> lol did you ac tually start the meeting?
12:02 < achow101> no one started it yet
12:02 < cdecker> The one time I could participate...
12:03 < jonasschnelli> hi     
12:03 < achow101> how about we meet irl ad kanzure transcribes to irc
12:03 < achow101> s/ad/and/
12:04 < gmaxwell> We can tell sdaftuar all the great work we came up with for him to handle.
12:04 < BlueMatt> yea, sdaftuar is building segwit-wallet, right?
12:04 < BlueMatt> and sipa is being force-nominated wallet maintainer,  so gets to review all of it :p
12:05 < luke-jr> I thought we would meet IRL, and kanzure transcribe it all to IRC
12:05  * sdaftuar hides
12:05 < meshcollider> lol     
12:06 < kanzure> hi.     
12:06 < kanzure> yeah i'm fine wit hthat
12:06 < sdaftuar> if you can predict the times i'll chime in and type that up as well that'd be great k thanks
12:06 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 3 new commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/a3624ddb1a3b...e7f125562fbb
12:06 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 3b69a08 MeshCollider: Fix division by zero in time remaining
12:06 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master c8d38ab MeshCollider: Refactor tipUpdate as per style guide
12:06 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master e7f1255 Wladimir J. van der Laan: Merge #11237: qt: Fixing division by zero in time remaining...
12:07 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj closed pull request #11237: qt: Fixing division by zero in time remaining (master...201709_fix_estimated_time) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/11237
12:08 < jtimon> perhaps a short summary of how are things going in the phisical meeting instead of the IRC meeting?
12:08 < jtimon> or kanzure's option sounds good too
12:09 < kanzure> there's various text from last few days, although not as much as zurich
12:09 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 2 new commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/e7f125562fbb...2f0d3e604aa9
12:09 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 061297f jjz: Ensure that data types are consistent...
12:09 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 2f0d3e6 Wladimir J. van der Laan: Merge #11232: Ensure that data types are consistent...
12:09 < meshcollider> wumpus: #11265 can be closed now that #11237 was merged, GitHub must not understand a comma separated list of issues being fixed
12:10 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj closed pull request #11232: Ensure that data types are consistent (master...master) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/11232
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12:11 < instagibbs> kanzure, are the digests published already
12:11 < wumpus> meshcollider: thanks for letting me know
12:12 < kanzure> there's one or two vulnerabilities that i shouldn't publish
12:15 < instagibbs> meshcollider, sdaftuar and anyone else not physically present, please bring up topics of choice if you have them. 
12:17 < jtimon> so what topics have you been talking about there?
12:18 < jtimon> I assume 0.15.1 has bee na big topic
12:18 < kanzure> signature aggregation
12:18 < kanzure> coin selection
12:19 < wumpus> 0.15.1 (segwit wallet) was a big topic, yes
12:19 < kanzure> rescans
12:21 < gmaxwell> I think we know what we're doing for segwit wallet.
12:21 < gmaxwell> after discussion pieter proposed a quick path for it that basically does an addwitness on every address in the wallet.
12:21 < gmaxwell> Which we concluded didn't create any more debt than we already have, since people aleady can do that.
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12:22 < gmaxwell> (We also spent a while talking about ways that things could be handled in the future and have good ideas there too)
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12:24 < meshcollider> gmaxwell: would this happen if the user decides to do a full wallet upgrade to segwit?
12:24 < meshcollider> No mix between segwit and non-segwit right?
12:24 < kanzure> i wanted to cause more discussion about rolling utxo hashes but one of the necessary people seems to be absent today
12:24 < gmaxwell> meshcollider: we must support mixed wallets already because people already have them.
12:25 < kanzure> also jonasschnelli gave a talk on bip150 and bip151 the other day http://diyhpl.us/wiki/transcripts/sf-bitcoin-meetup/2017-09-04-jonas-schenlli-bip150-bip151/
12:25 < wumpus> mixed wallets are pretty much a neccesity
12:25 < gmaxwell> we won't be supporting 'segwit only' in 0.15.1 at least just because it's a bigger change. (rather than the couple line core change needed to just auto-addwitness to everything)
12:25 < gmaxwell> kanzure: that talk will have a video online in a bit.
12:25 < meshcollider> addwitness newaddresses or existing addresses too?
12:26 < gmaxwell> But perhaps in the future we will have wallets that are segwit only except for imported keys.
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12:26 < gmaxwell> meshcollider: all due to backup recovery.
12:26 < michagogo> fakeping :-(
12:26 < gmaxwell> if you only do 'new' then you need a way of storing where you started doing that.
12:27 < meshcollider> Right, makes sense yep 👍 
12:29 < MarcoFalke> cfields: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/10753
12:30 < kanzure> luke-jr wanted to talk about #7533 and #10391
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12:32 < MarcoFalke> cfields: You can find a MWE here: https://github.com/travis-ci/travis-ci/issues/8315#issuecomment-327537437
12:32 < MarcoFalke> (scroll up a bit)
12:32 < MarcoFalke> for the yaml
12:33 < jtimon> any talks about creating a testnet for developing and testing signature aggregation? (shameless escuse to review beg https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/8994 )
12:34 < kanzure> signature aggregation will land in libsecp256k1 at some point
12:35 < jtimon> yeah, still too early to create a testnet, on the bright side I'm reading a lot of test code every time I rebase that...
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12:40 < meshcollider> I'll review that a bit later today jtimon, I like the sound of it
12:40 < meshcollider> Any new bugs reported in rc3?
12:40 < jtimon> meshcollider: awesome!
12:41 < meshcollider> This segfault issue with Qt keeps coming up, #11262 yesterday is the third issue I've seen
12:44 < jonasschnelli> Yes. The segfault things is ugly... it seems to happen for self-compiled Bitcoin-Qts only. So it could be a Qt5.5 bug. Couldn't track it down so far
12:45 < meshcollider> Dooglus used 5.7.1 here https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/9883#issuecomment-325217617
12:49 < jonasschnelli> hmm... good point.
12:50 < wumpus> yes the crashes in the sorting of the transaction list are vaguely worrying
12:50 < wumpus> seems some rare race condition
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13:00 < jtimon> end meeting?
13:01 < kanzure> it's endless
13:01 < jtimon> thanks for the summary, looking forward to see the talks and transcripts
13:01 < kanzure> there's not as much text, but there's some.
13:03 < meshcollider> Are there any PRs for things like segwit wallet ready for review yet, are they incoming next few days or what
13:04 < MarcoFalke> cfields: With group edge `pyenv versions` is empty: https://travis-ci.org/MarcoFalke/bitcoin/jobs/273047509/config
13:05 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 3 new commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/2f0d3e604aa9...e6ab88a4524a
13:05 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 5cb3da0 Marko Bencun: keystore GetKeys(): return result instead of writing to reference...
13:05 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master fe09b01 Marko Bencun: add missing lock to crypter GetKeys()...
13:05 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master e6ab88a Wladimir J. van der Laan: Merge #10916: add missing lock to crypter GetKeys()...
13:05 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj closed pull request #10916: add missing lock to crypter GetKeys() (master...GetKeys) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/10916
13:06 < wumpus> meshcollider: some from https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pulls?q=is%3Aopen+is%3Apr+milestone%3A0.15.1
13:07 < wumpus> so if everyone is ok with the pull list in  https://github.com/bitcoin-core/bitcoin-devwiki/wiki/Pulls-listing-for-0.15.0-(temporary)  I'm going to paste it into the relnotes for 0.15.0 and tag final, if anyone still plans on looking through it (to find misattributions and such) let me know
13:11 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke pushed 2 new commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/e6ab88a4524a...52f8877525d5
13:11 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master fa40b0e MarcoFalke: travis: Assert default datadir isn't created, Run scripted diff only once
13:11 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 52f8877 MarcoFalke: Merge #11260: travis: Assert default datadir isn't created, Run scripted diff only once...
13:11 < sipa> i'd like to see #11174 addressed
13:11 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke closed pull request #11260: travis: Assert default datadir isn't created, Run scripted diff only once (master...Mf1708-travisYaml) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/11260
13:14 < meshcollider> #11245 got tagged for 0.15.0 four hours ago, what's happening there
13:15 < meshcollider> If the issue isnt present in rc3 then there isn't much point including the fix in 0.15.0 release notes, but we don't know if it really got fixed 
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13:21 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] theuni opened pull request #11271: travis: filter out pyenv (master...travis-fix-pyenv) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/11271
13:22 < MarcoFalke> wumpus: I will look at the pull list
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13:28 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj closed pull request #11270: travis: Use deprecated trusty image (master...2017_09_travis_deprecated_image) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/11270
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13:29 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj closed pull request #11245: [0.15] Mention offscreen issue in release notes (0.15...201709_offscreen_release_note) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/11245
13:30 < kyzeeruz> Hello world!
13:31 < meshcollider> What's needed for 11174 re: rescanning?
13:31 < meshcollider> I can make a PR if no one else is going to
13:31 < kyzeeruz> what is PR?
13:32 < meshcollider> Pull request
13:32 < meshcollider> But it sounded like gmaxwell was leaving a mental note for himself 
13:32 < kyzeeruz> Is there somebody can give me a free web link to learn bitcoin coding?
13:33 < meshcollider> I think you're in the wrong channel, try #bitcoin :)
13:33 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] rawodb closed pull request #11177: Support for SegWit Addresses in RPC  calls and change addresses (master...pr/rpc_getsegwitaddresses) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/11177
13:35 < kyzeeruz> I want to create and build a bitcoin web game or either transforming an online game while playing earn a real bitcoin on it live online.
13:35 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] jonasschnelli opened pull request #11272: CKeystore/CCrypter: move relevant implementation out of the header (master...2017/09/wallet_refact) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/11272
13:35 < meshcollider> Is the meeting over?
13:35 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] Xekyo opened pull request #11273: WIP: Ignore old format estimation file (master...ignoreOldFeeEstimates) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/11273
13:36 < kyzeeruz> Is there any possible to use an old computer as a main miner to generate bitcoin?
13:36 < michagogo> meshcollider: it didn't happen
13:36 < michagogo> despite the ping
13:36 < jonasschnelli> meshcollider: because most of the devs are working in the same physical location right now, the meeting was not really happening... 
13:36 < michagogo> kyzeeruz: short answer: no. Anyway, this is the wrong place
13:36 < jonasschnelli> yeah.. next week it will be again in the normal fashion 
13:36 < jonasschnelli> sorry about that.
13:37 < kyzeeruz> thanks michagogo
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13:38 < meshcollider> Ok sweet, just confused about the ping and thought it was started :)
13:38 < meshcollider> Hope the last day of SF goes well then
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13:45 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] mess110 opened pull request #11274: [tests] Cleanup wildcard imports in functional tests (master...cleanup-wildcard-in-functional-tests) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/11274
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13:59 < kyzeeruz> What repositories maen?
13:59 < sipa> kyzeeruz: #bitcoin please
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14:07 < esotericnonsense> is it expected that pruning can become a limiting factor in IBD? testing now and by increasing my prune size (essentially, temporarily disabling it) it seems to have increased sync rate by approx 30%
14:08 < esotericnonsense> the cache seems to flush on each pruning event
14:09 < esotericnonsense> testing ramdisk with prune=5000 vs ssd with prune=50000 -> 30% faster off the ssd (and seemingly improving as dbcache increases)
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14:12 < MarcoFalke> wumpus: Pull list looks fine
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14:31 < wumpus> MarcoFalke: thanks for checking
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15:07 < BlueMatt> gah, mk229797 shows up on an issue and tells someone to download a datadir snapshot
15:07 < BlueMatt> I assume its not a real person...wumpus wanna ban that account?
15:08 < BlueMatt> hmm, maybe not?
15:08 < wumpus> banned 
15:08 < BlueMatt> seems like a person, but thats a strange response
15:08 < BlueMatt> eh, whatever
15:08 < BlueMatt> they'll come here and complain if they're real
15:09 < wumpus> right, it was definitely not ok
15:15 < wumpus> hm, strange, I pushed the PR list in the release notes to the 0.15 branch and github's bot didnt trigger
15:15 < BlueMatt> :O     
15:16 < wumpus> maybe it's overloaded
15:16 < BlueMatt> github has had a lot of notification delays of late...there's been a few days where their email was super slow for a few hours
15:16 < wumpus> I hope it's not our fault for merging so much :)
15:20 < BlueMatt> heh, I hope it is :p
15:20 < BlueMatt> (though other projects are larger...)
15:26 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] jonasschnelli opened pull request #11276: Update CONTRIBUTRING.md to reduce unnecesarry review workload (master...2017/09/cont) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/11276
15:30 < wumpus> the IRC bot is definitely backlogged
15:30 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj closed pull request #11205: Make fixed CAmounts and related sanity function constexpr (master...refactor/constexpr-amount) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/11205
15:32 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke closed pull request #11274: [tests] Cleanup wildcard imports in functional tests (master...cleanup-wildcard-in-functional-tests) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/11274
15:32 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] ryanofsky opened pull request #11277: Fix uninitialized URI in batch RPC requests (master...pr/mb) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/11277
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15:34 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 1 new commit to 0.15: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/commit/d4c9d00e7e79958dea9586f927778dba2be8230a
15:34 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/0.15 d4c9d00 Wladimir J. van der Laan: doc: Add PRs list to release notes...
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15:39 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke pushed 2 new commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/52f8877525d5...638e6c59da4f
15:39 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master aa2e0f0 Cory Fields: travis: filter out pyenv
15:39 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 638e6c5 MarcoFalke: Merge #11271: travis: filter out pyenv...
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15:39 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke closed pull request #11271: travis: filter out pyenv (master...travis-fix-pyenv) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/11271
15:41 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke opened pull request #11279: doc: Add missing contributors to release notes (0.15...Mf1708-doc015rel) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/11279
15:44 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 2 new commits to 0.15: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/d4c9d00e7e79...adcc788f2a89
15:44 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/0.15 fad16a9 MarcoFalke: doc: Add missing contributors to release notes...
15:44 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/0.15 adcc788 Wladimir J. van der Laan: Merge #11279: doc: Add missing contributors to release notes...
15:44 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj closed pull request #11279: doc: Add missing contributors to release notes (0.15...Mf1708-doc015rel) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/11279
15:49 < meshcollider> in #11174, it says to add release notes for rescanning an encrypted wallet
15:49 < meshcollider> is that basically putting https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/11249 into the release notes
15:51 < MarcoFalke> meshcollider: pulls welcome :)
15:51 < meshcollider> yeah I'm working on it at the moment but I'm just trying to work out what gmaxwell's mental note meant ;)
15:51 < meshcollider> < gmaxwell> mental note: we need release notes on the topup stuff and instructions for rescanning
15:52 < meshcollider> Also should this be a new section in the release notes? 'Notes for 0.15.0' or something?
15:54 < wumpus> maybe at the beginning, after the upgrade/compatibility instructions
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16:01 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MeshCollider opened pull request #11280: [0.15] Final to-do's for 0.15.0 release notes (0.15...201709_release_note_015_todo) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/11280
16:02 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj closed pull request #10756: net processing: swap out signals for an interface class (master...no-net-signals2) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/10756
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16:18 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 2 new commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/723e5806578b...efb4383ef6c6
16:18 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 592404f MeshCollider: Changing &vec[0] to vec.data(), what 9804 missed
16:18 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master efb4383 Wladimir J. van der Laan: Merge #10793: Changing &var[0] to var.data()...
16:18 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj closed pull request #10793: Changing &var[0] to var.data() (master...prefer-vector-data) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/10793
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16:33 < wumpus> can people please review https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/11280? (final release notes updates for 0.15.0)
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16:37 < meshcollider> especially sipa and gmaxwell since they added the todo list :)
16:37 < wumpus> yes     
16:38 < wumpus> I think this is the first time that tagging a release is blocked on the release notes :)
16:39 < sipa> haha
16:40 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] jonasschnelli opened pull request #11281: Avoid pemanent cs_main/cs_wallet lock during RescanFromTime (master...2017/09/rescan_locks) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/11281
16:41 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke pushed 9 new commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/efb4383ef6c6...791a0e6ddade
16:41 < meshcollider> hmm i'm not sure how to fix instagibbs comment, it would sound weird to just say "(this is not a regression)" right
16:41 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 9c76ba1 John Newbery: [wallet] Rename InitLoadWallet() to OpenWallets()...
16:41 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 1b9cee6 John Newbery: [wallet] Rename WalletVerify() to VerifyWallets()...
16:41 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 2da5eaf John Newbery: [wallet] Add FlushWallets() function to wallet/init.cpp
16:42 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke closed pull request #10767: [wallet] Clarify wallet initialization / destruction interface (master...walletinit2) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/10767
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16:42 < meshcollider> actually dw I think I've got it
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16:52 < meshcollider> All good to go? Cancel travis again if you want :)
16:53 < luke-jr> wumpus: well, to be fair, IMO it *should* be blocked on the hiding GUI issue <.<
16:54 < meshcollider> wouldn't that require an rc4 though?
16:54 < luke-jr> yes :/
16:56 < meshcollider> According to discussion in #11245 it might have been fixed somehow upstream or something
16:57 < meshcollider> no one is really sure so I don't think blocking release on that would be worth it, the fix can get  in to 0.15.1 anyway
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17:00 < wumpus> luke-jr: no, it's not even clear the issue exists on the rc binaries, jonasschnelli tried on a few windows VMs andcouldn't reproduce with the rcs
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17:01 < jonasschnelli> luke-jr: I could reproduce the GUI offset issue with 0.14.1 on Win7, 8.1 and 10. But 0.15.0rc2 did not had the issue anymore.
17:01 < jonasschnelli> Either its fixed in Qt5.7 or without our sources
17:02 < jonasschnelli> It may still happen to users compiling with an older Qt version (not confirmed)
17:02 < jonasschnelli> (like the tray icon but, etc.)
17:02 < luke-jr> hmm     
17:02 < wumpus> yes don't get started on the tray icon... :p
17:03 < luke-jr> can we contact the users who experienced it in RCs, and confirm their setup?
17:03 < luke-jr> gmaxwell said he knew of at least a few
17:05 < midnightmagic> jonasschnelli: Is there somewhere that you've more-strongly linked your GPG key to yourself? Maybe a video or something?
17:05 < wumpus> a gpg key video? lol
17:07 < wumpus> if it is an issue in 0.14.1 it's not a regression in 0.15 anyhow
17:07 < wumpus> there's 0 reasons to hold the release for it, sorry
17:07 < luke-jr> just strange that the reports came in when 0.15rc was out
17:07 < midnightmagic> wumpus: :-) peter todd did one where he reads out the fingerprint.
17:08 < luke-jr> midnightmagic: jonas has lots of signatures on his key :P
17:08 < meshcollider> gmaxwell did you see instagibbs comment on #11280
17:08 < meshcollider> there is no rescan RPC
17:09 < jonasschnelli> midnightmagic: a video?
17:10 < jonasschnelli> there are tons of merges and commits with my GPG signature... what would a video improve?
17:10 < jonasschnelli> There will soon be a video from the SF bitcoin dev meetup with my key fingerprint on the slides.
17:10 < jonasschnelli> That may help
17:11  * luke-jr modifies the slides in that video /s
17:11 < wumpus> no, there is no rescan RPC, just the command line argument
17:12 < midnightmagic> luke-jr: yep. secondary trust is sort of meaningless to me in this context
17:12 < luke-jr> also rescanning isn't possible for pruned nodes?
17:12 < meshcollider> so what's gmaxwell talking about in his comment, if restarting with -rescan won't work with encrypted wallets then is there no fix?
17:12 < wumpus> import* have a  'rescan' argument but I'm not sure that's what is meant
17:12 < luke-jr> I think the "fix" is to unlock the wallet immediately when it starts?
17:13 < meshcollider> nah I doubt that's what he meant, would be pretty hacky if people were required to use an import command to get the rescan going
17:13 < jonasschnelli> There is a rescan RPC call PR: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/7061
17:13 < jonasschnelli> (begs for reviews)
17:14 < jonasschnelli> with that rescans would be possible for pruned peers (if one wants to rescan not below the pruned depth)
17:15 < meshcollider>  hmm yeah that'd be good, I'll review that later too, but that means we have no fix for 0.15.0?
17:16 < meshcollider> Should I remove that section from the notes entirely or just make a note that support for rescanning will come in a new version
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17:16 < gmaxwell> meshcollider: you can rescan from RPC. 
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17:16 < meshcollider> using import commands?
17:16 < gmaxwell> you can use yea..
17:16 < gmaxwell> importmulti
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17:17 < wumpus> importmulti without any actual keys or so?
17:17 < wumpus> that definitely needs to be documented, I was not aware of that
17:17 < gmaxwell> but indeed I was forgetting that there is no freestanding 'rescan'.
17:17 < jonasschnelli> with a dummy key/address generated in bip32.org or so
17:17 < gmaxwell> you can scan with a dummy.
17:17 < gmaxwell> which I guess we need to suggest. :(
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17:18 < meshcollider> importmulti [] {"rescan":true} 
17:18 < meshcollider> empty array will work or nah?
17:18 < meshcollider> it doesnt seem to throw any errors
17:18 < jonasschnelli> i don't think so
17:19 < gmaxwell> It won't rescan if there is nothing to do.
17:20 < wumpus> that kind of makes sense, though it's sad in this case
17:20 < midnightmagic> .../lastlog jonasschnelli 
17:21 < midnightmagic> sorry
17:21 < luke-jr> jonasschnelli: ! no:|
17:21 < jonasschnelli> aha. :)
17:21 < luke-jr> importing random untrusted stuff is not safe and should definitely not be advised..
17:21 < wumpus> there are certainly some risks to that
17:22 < midnightmagic> jonasschnelli: Yes. That SF bitcoin meetup is perfect. That's neat that peter todd stuffed a blockchain hash into his signature in a certificate notation. I wonder if I'm the only one that's actually checked that. :-)
17:22 < jonasschnelli> Yes. Indeed. You may import a random address from another wallet to trigger a rescan
17:22 < jonasschnelli> But that's why we need #7061
17:22 < jonasschnelli> We are claiming rescans are not required since years... but it seems like they are
17:23 < midnightmagic> jonasschnelli: The consistency of the signatures is not an identity verification of the guy that everyone else has met (but I have not.) :-)
17:24 < jonasschnelli> midnightmagic: happy to drink a coffee with you somewhere in the world.
17:24 < midnightmagic> I would be happy to have a coffee with you if we are ever in the same place together. \o
17:25 < jonasschnelli> That's the difficulty... indeed
17:27 < meshcollider> something like this fine then? https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/11280
17:27 < luke-jr> so encrypted HD backup tl;dr = no solution?
17:27 < meshcollider> no good solution, yeah, they'd have to load another wallet, generate a dummy address, then load their encrypted one and import with rescan
17:28 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 3 new commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/791a0e6ddade...c22a53cd6351
17:28 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master d4c18f7 Andrew Chow: Bump wallet version number to 159900
17:28 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 713a920 Andrew Chow: Remove usehd option and warn when it is used...
17:28 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master c22a53c Wladimir J. van der Laan: Merge #11250: Bump wallet version to 159900 and remove the `usehd` option...
17:29 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj closed pull request #11250: Bump wallet version to 159900 and remove the `usehd` option (master...bump-wallet-version) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/11250
17:30 < luke-jr> not sure if release notes are really the place for hacky workarounds for long-standing issues
17:30 < wumpus> meshcollider: thanks for doing 11280, seems it's more work than planned for
17:30 < wumpus> how long-standing?
17:31 < meshcollider> thats fine :) Yeah I'm happy to remove the rescan stuff if needed
17:31 < luke-jr> ever since HD wallets were introduced?
17:31 < meshcollider> Yeah ^ and it will be a hacky-fix-issue until the rescan RPC is merged I guess which means we should all go review jonas's PR asap lol
17:32 < wumpus> well a hacky workaround is better than losing funds
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17:32 < luke-jr> wumpus: right, but it's not a new issue, so maybe it should just be a blog post or smth?
17:33 < meshcollider> True, people can still ask for support on stackexchange or whatever though, doesn't have to be in the release notes I guess
17:33  * luke-jr watches wumpus put his laptop away
17:33 < meshcollider> Has anyone reported having issues with it so far or is it just a 'could happen'
17:35 < meshcollider> Well, my vote is to leave it in there, having a short Notes/Known Issues section in each release notes is quite a nice idea anyway imo
17:35 < luke-jr> meshcollider: we're all packing up and leaving, so expect a delay in response
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22:30 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] ajtowns opened pull request #11284: Fix invalid memory access in CScript::operator+= (master...cscript_insert) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/11284
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