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00:51 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 2 new commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/41363fe11df5...aa360e76a74b
00:51 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 660f5f1 Cory Fields: net: don't retry failed oneshot connections forever
00:51 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master aa360e7 Wladimir J. van der Laan: Merge #12329: net: don't retry failed oneshot connections forever...
00:52 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 2 new commits to 0.16: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/e54c1ac11066...5303970c26a5
00:52 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/0.16 0dc6a30 João Barbosa: [gui] Defer coin control instancing...
00:52 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/0.16 5303970 Cory Fields: net: don't retry failed oneshot connections forever...
00:52 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj closed pull request #12329: net: don't retry failed oneshot connections forever (master...no-infinite-oneshot) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/12329
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01:04 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/0.16 f17942a Wladimir J. van der Laan: qt: Pre-rc2 translations update...
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01:13 < wumpus> rc2 coming up, please interrupt me asap if I forgot something
01:18 < wumpus> so we have: fix for the fd issue (cfields, confirmed by gmaxwell above), fix for eternal retry of onetries (cfields), and fix for coin-control-bechs32-change (promag) in. I've updated the translations from transifex. Should be good to go.
01:18 < promag> ok     
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01:40 < wumpus>  * [new tag]         v0.16.0rc2 -> v0.16.0rc2
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02:22 < promag> gmaxwell: see #12330
02:22 < gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/12330 | Reduce scope of cs_main and cs_wallet locks in listtransactions by promag · Pull Request #12330 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
02:23 < wumpus> how do we want to call it in the release notes, SegWit, Segwit, segwit? it's kind of inconsistent at the moment
02:24 < gmaxwell> SeGwIt
02:24 < luke-jr> maybe markdown can be extended to randomize the case per view
02:25 < aj> it's "segwit" in --help
02:25 < luke-jr> "segwit" does seem to be the most common
02:26 < aj> "SegWit" in "addnode -help" rpc
02:27 < wumpus> ok so "segwit" captilized only as necessary?
02:27 < promag> https://bitcoincore.org/en/2016/01/26/segwit-benefits/ lowercase unless start of sentence
02:27 < gmaxwell> +1     
02:27 < wumpus> right
02:27 < gmaxwell> or SeGregAteDWitness as appropriate.
02:28 < aj> greg should stop eating witnesses
02:28 < promag> aj: should we fix that?
02:28 < promag> "fix"
02:28 < gmaxwell> it's okay, I'm full.
02:29 < wumpus> hehehe
02:29  * aj wonders if SeGreg is as popular as selinux
02:30  * luke-jr wonders if GPL'd DNA mods cause reproduction to be copyright infringment
02:31 < sipa> wumpus: any of those three are fine, but concistency is nice
02:31 < sipa> i'm not such a fan of gmaxwell's capitalization preferences
02:32 < wumpus> yep, I've updated the wiki page to use "segwit" consistently
02:32 < wumpus> https://github.com/bitcoin-core/bitcoin-devwiki/wiki/0.16.0-Release-notes
02:33 < midnightmagic> heh so greg ate de witness.
02:33 < gmaxwell> no sogregatede is something else, I'm pretty sure.
02:34 < luke-jr> Ated might have been better there.
02:34 < midnightmagic> not if you're quebecois
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02:37 < wumpus> another word consistency issue (sorry) is it BIP 123 or BIP123?
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02:38 < wumpus> sometimes it says BIP 173, then BIP173, there is even a BIP-125 
02:38 < wumpus> but BIP123 style seems most common
02:39 < aj> BIP123 seems most common in the code
02:39 < fanquake> I'll claim squashing "SSE" and 4 earlier today :p 
02:39 < mesh_> I know I was a bit sloppy with the consistency there sorry, was copying and pasting things from all over the place
02:39 < wumpus> yes, ok, let's standardize on that
02:40 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke pushed 2 new commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/aa360e76a74b...1b06ed136f17
02:40 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 1340eda practicalswift: Fix typos
02:40 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 1b06ed1 MarcoFalke: Merge #12283: Fix typos...
02:40 < meshcollider> Yep no space is probably most sensible, slightly less neat than space though IMO
02:40 < aj> yeah, it's BIP123 in src/qt/locale/* in particular.
02:40 < wumpus> mesh_: no worries, this is mostly editorializing, the content is most important :)
02:40 < fanquake> Last I checked dropping the 0. was most important ;)
02:40 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke closed pull request #12283: Fix typos (master...typos-20180128) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/12283
02:40 < meshcollider> wumpus: has anyone addresses sipa's validateaddress changes earlier, I ran out of time
02:40 < meshcollider> Addressed*
02:43 < wumpus> the only mention of validateaddress is in BIP173 support
02:43 < provoostenator> Re release notes: "When launched with -addresstype=legacy it is unchecked and disabled." -> it's actually hidden.
02:44 < meshcollider> provoostenator: oh ok, I got that from the PR description ;)
02:44 < provoostenator> I changed it based on feedback, but probably forgot to update that part of the descrioption.
02:44 < meshcollider> wumpus: ok that's a to-do then, move it out of the BIP 173 section and write about all the other changes that happened to it
02:45 < meshcollider> I'll do it tomorrow, more of a mental note unless someone else does
02:45 < meshcollider> provoostenator: that's all good
02:45 < provoostenator> The behavior around (change) address types is currently spread accross several parts of the release notes. Maybe better to just have one section Address Types and discuss the various defaults, launch flags and RPC params there.
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02:47 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke pushed 2 new commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/1b06ed136f17...4cad91663df3
02:47 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 9bb59cf Jorge Timón: QA: segwit.py: s/find_unspent/find_spendable_utxo/
02:47 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 4cad916 MarcoFalke: Merge #11869: QA: segwit.py: s/find_unspent/find_spendable_utxo/...
02:47 < wumpus> provoostenator: right; I've lazily grouped the address changes under wallet changes, because that's where people will be looking for them. I know some non-wallet utility functions are also affected.
02:47 < meshcollider> Btw wumpus it'd be cool if we added sjors to the github org, I mentioned it a while back and it got lost :)
02:47 < wumpus> meshcollider: yes
02:47 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke closed pull request #11869:  QA: segwit.py: s/find_unspent/find_spendable_utxo/ (master...b16-segwit-test-fix) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/11869
02:48 < wumpus> but explaining the types of addresses in a separate section wouldn't hurt
02:48 < wumpus> I'm done editing the wiki for now, so if anyone wants to have a go
02:48 < provoostenator> Being part of the github org is what gets you the T-Shirt, right?
02:48 < gmaxwell> do mention 'bc1' when talking about BIP173 addresses, since thats how users will identify them.
02:51 < wumpus> provoostenator: I'm not sure; maybe someone still has a stack of bitcoin core t-shirts from one of the real life dev meetings
02:51 < wumpus> I do have a lot of bitcoin core stickers
02:51 < provoostenator> I was kidding, but good to know there actually _are_ T-Shirts.
02:52 < meshcollider> provoostenator: there'll be t-shirts at coredev apparently :)
02:52 < meshcollider> wumpus: you should bring some stickers too then hehe
02:53 < meshcollider> provoostenator: I assume the t-shirts look like John's one on twitter
02:56 < wumpus> invited provoostenator for bitcoin and bitcoin-core orgs
02:56 < wumpus> meshcollider:sure!
02:56 < meshcollider> wumpus: can I join bitcoin-core too
02:57 < wumpus> meshcollider:  there is a photo from coredev zurich somewhere where almost everyone is wearing one
02:57 < wumpus> meshcollider: oh I forgot that?
02:57 < meshcollider> Oh nice!
02:57 < meshcollider> Yah haha
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02:59 < meshcollider> Thanks :)
03:01 < provoostenator> wumpus: received invite, thanks
03:04 < provoostenator> "Uses of "µBTC" in the GUI now use the more colloquial term "bits". -> clarify that this is _in addition to_ uBTC, otherwise people might go mad without actually checking the app.
03:05 < gmaxwell> hah I was annoyed before I got to the end of provoostenator's message.
03:07 < provoostenator> gmaxwell: that's why I always nag about screenshots: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/12035#issuecomment-354297195
03:07 < sipa> a 100 megabit/s network connection sounds very expensive now
03:07  * sipa computes
03:07 < sipa> crap.
03:08 < gmaxwell> lol     
03:12 < meshcollider> provoostenator: is it *always* in addition to, or sometimes? Because the code had like a "short" and "long" version
03:12 < gmaxwell> somewhere some french altcoiners people are cacking at bitcoiners trying get everyone to measure their bitcoin in millièmebite.
03:13 < provoostenator> meshcollider: sometimes. See the screenshots in that link. Dropdown menus show both terms, which is where it matters the most I think. But there's some places where it just says "bits" now.
03:13 < wumpus> sipa: so does it always cost 100 megabit/s or is that just the channel capacity and based on use? :)
03:14 < meshcollider> provoostenator: ah yep I see, cool
03:14 < meshcollider> A megabit is 1 bitcoin?
03:15 < wumpus> meshcollider: yes :-)
03:15 < gmaxwell> now I'll at least remember what unit 'bits' is.
03:15 < meshcollider> At least I can still do basic math then :)
03:15 < wumpus> even 80's mobile data must have been cheaper
03:15 < provoostenator> Yeah, nobody liked my idea of redefining 1 satoshi as 10^-9 BTC :-)
03:15 < gmaxwell> provoostenator: is 10 nanobitcoin so hard to use?
03:15 < provoostenator> And then just use kilosat instead of uBTC or bits
03:17 < meshcollider> A satoshi is just 10 microbits
03:17 < provoostenator> Say "That'll be twenty three nanobitcoin and three hundred third five  picobitcoin please" 20 times out loud and I'll consider it.
03:17 < aj> meshcollider: millibits?
03:17 < meshcollider> Milli* yes oops
03:18 < sipa> millibitcoins = mils, microbitcoins = mikes, nanobitcoins = nans, picobitcoins = pikes
03:18 < sipa> was that so hard?
03:18 < sipa> ;)     
03:18 < provoostenator> nans is nice
03:18 < gmaxwell> ten nans walk into a bar.
03:18 < meshcollider> brb, changing my twitter name to something like [NO BIP176][MIKES]
03:18 < provoostenator> NaN nans please
03:19 < aj> sipa: because "mils" isn't already used for enough different measurements
03:19 < wumpus> provoostenator: standardizing SI units in common language would be awesome, but not my fight
03:20  * wumpus likes sipa's suggestions
03:20 < wumpus> nan bread
03:20 < sipa> aj: oh?
03:21 < promag> who loves univalue raise hand
03:21 < provoostenator> There's also no point in standardizing these things when prices can change by an order of magnitude every year. If and when it becomes a unit of account, people will come with words for it.
03:21 < aj> sipa: oh, mostly just still bitter over discovering that when an american says "mils" that's not a nickname for millimetres
03:21 < wumpus> univalue?
03:22 < gmaxwell> provoostenator: well I suppose it's poor form to complain that people are coming up with words with the argument that they'll come up with words. :) (or perhaps I misunderstood)
03:22 < provoostenator> aj: they do for guns though, right?
03:22 < promag> wumpus: src/univalue/include/univalue.h :P
03:22 < promag> seems so slow
03:22 < wumpus> promag: oh, I think we were still in the context of units
03:22 < promag> sorry for the interrupt :P
03:22 < meshcollider> milliunivalue
03:23 < provoostenator> gmaxwell: I think it's fine that people come with words. I mean there's not much use in "centrally" dictating those words. 
03:23 < wumpus> deprecate SI units and unify all units to, univalue!
03:23 < wumpus> that's 100 univalue please
03:23 < gmaxwell> promag: it was an order of magnitude speedup from jsonspirit as we were using it before, and eliminated problems with number mangling.
03:23 < aj> provoostenator: yeah, as i understand it, guns and drugs, at the forefront of bringing SI measurements to the US
03:24 < sipa> wumpus: yes, i wish people would learn SI units for daily life usage... but indeed, not something i'm going to waste my time on 
03:24 < meshcollider> Well sipa has his own unit, we could call uBTC the laan
03:24 < wumpus> for a mass of 123 univalue of 100 univalue capacitors
03:24 < sipa> also, as the SI unit for weight is the kilogram, should it not be millikilogram instead of gram?
03:25 < wumpus> promag: we're basically its maintainers, feel free to optimize it
03:25 < provoostenator> The nice thing about computers is that they allow standards to just exist in the background. Precise time measurement is crucial, but most people don't need to think in UTC because their phone handles the conversion.
03:25 < meshcollider> sipa: unfortunately so lol
03:25 < aj> oh no, not time measurement
03:26  * sipa tries to reintroduce the beat
03:26 < provoostenator> In fact, we could just go back to each city having a time based on where the sun is. Though coordinating meetings would be a pain without good tools.
03:26 < gmaxwell> provoostenator: irony... considering that we have to hold our meetings here in UTC times to avoid having people witness multiple DST changes per year
03:26 < aj> sipa: that'll improve morale
03:26 < gmaxwell> (and at random seeming different times than their local dst changes)
03:27 < provoostenator> Right, that's because coordinating meeting times is still generally done with words.
03:27 < meshcollider> I prefer to measure time in microfortnights
03:28 < wumpus> my preference is kiloseconds, megaseconds, gigaseconds
03:28 < sipa> gigaseconds are kinda bulky
03:28 < wumpus> do away with planet or solar-system-specific time units
03:28 < sipa> few people see more than 3 in their lifetime
03:28 < gmaxwell> provoostenator: the time can't be set in any timezone with dst regardless of how you communicate about it, because if it is, people in other zones will witness their own time change as well as the other one. 
03:28 < wumpus> agreed, it's a big milestone
03:29 < provoostenator> DST needs to die.
03:29 < sipa> wumpus: a *kilometerstone*
03:29 < wumpus> sipa: oooh yes, sorry
03:29 < gmaxwell> (since north and souther hemispheres dst in opposing directions, and US and europe on different dates)
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03:30 < sipa> wumpus: i think we should do everything in planck units
03:32  * sipa zZzZ
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03:46 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] promag opened pull request #12333: Make CWallet::ListCoins atomic (master...2018-02-atomic-listcoins) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/12333
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04:31 < fanquake> pushed some rc2 sigs up
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05:19 < wumpus> sipa: yes, planck units would be even better, at least then we could stop using floating point/decimal and account all physics in discrete units in 128 or 256 bit integers
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05:19 < wumpus> also it's based on a constant of nature instead of an arbitrary human measure
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05:20 < wumpus> we're going to need larger SI-prefixes though
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05:39 < wumpus> fanquake: also pushed my sigs, you were first though!
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08:02 < esotericnonsense> hm. how much space should test_runner.py require? seems it can't run in tmpfs on my laptop (only has 2GB /tmp, got to 1.9GB then started giving space errors)
08:04 < esotericnonsense> found the --tmpdirprefix switch. :)
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09:02 < AndyS2> Newbie to C++ and bitcoin core here. I've been looking at EvalScript in interpreter.cpp, and from what I gathered it seems to push things onto 'stack' or return an error if something isn't kosher. But when/where is the stack actually 'executed'. EvalScript doesn't seem to evaluate the script anywhere I could see.
09:03 < AndyS2> And functions calling EvalScript didn't seem to immediately get to work on that stack, either, but I might have missed something
09:06 < achow101> AndyS2: the stack is not something where code is executed. It is just a place to store data temporarily
09:07 < achow101> Opcodes execute things typically by popping things off of the stack
09:07 < achow101> those opcodes do not actually get pushed to the stack
09:17 < luke-jr> well, they do for p2sh and segwit
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09:26 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 2 new commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/4cad91663df3...85123be78df5
09:26 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 7444149 John Newbery: Document method for reviewers to verify chainTxData...
09:26 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 85123be Wladimir J. van der Laan: Merge #12317: Document method for reviewers to verify chainTxData...
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09:26 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj closed pull request #12317: Document method for reviewers to verify chainTxData (master...verify_chainTxData) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/12317
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09:45 < AndyS2> achow101: you are right, I don't know how I could mis-read all that code. Thanks for the correction. So EvalScript is actually where the script is evaluated, and the name fits :)
09:46 < AndyS2> I'll look at p2sh specialities later, thanks for the hint.
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10:37 < esotericnonsense> never mind DST. the fact that timezones don't change with latitude is absurd
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10:41 < sipa> esotericnonsense: iceland has no dst for a reason :)
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10:43 < esotericnonsense> it's more that spain is utc+1 and the UK is utc which is just odd
10:43 < esotericnonsense> there is probably some historical reason
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10:48 < esotericnonsense> apparently it was for political alignment with central europe, heh
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11:46 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] jnewbery opened pull request #12336: Remove deprecated rpc options (master...remove_deprecated_rpcs) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/12336
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12:17 < GitHub24> [bitcoin-detached-sigs] jonasschnelli opened pull request #2: 0.16: osx signatures for 0.16.0rc2 (0.16...0.16) https://github.com/bitcoin-core/bitcoin-detached-sigs/pull/2
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12:40 < cfields> uh     
12:40 < cfields> well that's shitty timing...
12:40 < cfields> I just ran my last sanity check on rc2 before pushing the sigs, and hit an asserstion at shutdown :(
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12:51 < GitHub149> [bitcoin-detached-sigs] theuni closed pull request #2: 0.16: osx signatures for 0.16.0rc2 (0.16...0.16) https://github.com/bitcoin-core/bitcoin-detached-sigs/pull/2
12:53 < cfields> gitian builders: v0.16.0rc2 sigs are pushed
12:53 < cfields> also, #12337
12:53 < gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/12337 | 0.16 Shutdown assertion · Issue #12337 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
12:53 < cfields> BlueMatt: ^^
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12:55 < BlueMatt> oh ffs
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13:03 < BlueMatt> weird, that would imply Shutdown() wasnt called
13:04 < cfields> hmm?
13:05 < BlueMatt> Shutdown() waits for the threadGroup to exit fully, and a long time ago due to some other bug I made sure Shutdown() gets acalled always in bitcoind shutdown, and I thought i did for qt too
13:05 < BlueMatt> but I dont have a good understanding of how that works
13:05 < BlueMatt> I assume you did a pretty quick shutdown and not a full init, cfields?
13:06 < cfields> yes, just long enough to display the version#
13:07 < cfields> BlueMatt: there's a note somewhere in init.cpp about aborting halfway through. Not sure if it's stale or not.
13:09 < cfields> nm, not relevant
13:09 < BlueMatt> not if you finish AppInitMain
13:18 < BlueMatt> does anyone actually understand qt init/shutdown?
13:22 < cfields> BlueMatt: I managed to grab the log, AppInitMain indeed doesn't finish. It caught the shutdown check at init.cpp:1578
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13:25 < BlueMatt> cfields: in bitcoind (and I was very sure bitcoin-qt) if AppInitMain ever *enters* it should still call Shutdown()
13:27 < cfields> BlueMatt: yes, I see that for bitcoind. Looking at qt with you.
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13:27 < BlueMatt> hmm, it looks like maybe qt doesnt call Shutdown there, fucking qt/bitcoind init differences :(
13:27 < BlueMatt> i guess quit() doesnt call shutdown() when called from initializeResult
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13:28 < BlueMatt> I'll wait for jonasschnelli or someone who knows how the fuck qt works to figure out how to fix
13:30 < BlueMatt> cfields: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/12337#issuecomment-362713279 <-- seem reasonable?
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13:31 < cfields> BlueMatt: yes, though I'm a few min behind you
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13:34 < cfields> BlueMatt: hmm. As a hack, I wonder if we can just add a "StartShutdown();" before every "return false" in AppInitMain
13:35 < cfields> blah, we'd still have to get qt to wait on that, which is basically the same problem. nm.
13:36 < BlueMatt> cfields: no, but we could change AppInitMain to { bool ret = AppInitMainReal(); if (!ret) Shutdown(); return ret }
13:36 < cfields> heh     
13:36 < BlueMatt> but we shouldnt do that, we should fucking fix qt to actually have the same goddamned init/shutdown process as bitcoind, otherwise we're just keep going with this constant stream of init/shutdown problems on one or the other cause the person writing the code was only considering one or the other and assumed the other did the same thing
13:37 < BlueMatt> cause....duh
13:37 < cfields> looking at all of the qt shutdown signals, I'm afraid that would screw something up
13:37 < BlueMatt> i mean we can do a different fix on master vs qt
13:37 < BlueMatt> but lets see what someone who knows the qt init/shutdown stuff says
13:37 < BlueMatt> err, vs 16
13:38 < cfields> yes, agreed on sharing behavior as much as possible. Some is beyond our control, though.
13:39 < achow101> so 0.16 rc2 is DOA
13:40 < cfields> nah, I think we should urge people to test it
13:42 < cfields> rc1 had a bug that was so bad that _any_ bug report would've been unhelpful. For rc2, there's just a unlikely, known, startup issue
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13:42 < mlz> what's the difference between "origin/0.16" and "v0.16.0rc2" and which one should i test? 
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13:45 < cfields> miz: former is branch, latter is tag. You probably want the tag.
13:46 < achow101> cfields: does the assertion always happen or just sometimes?
13:46 < mlz> cfields, ok, thank you
13:47 < cfields> BlueMatt: for 0.16, can we not just start the scheduler thread until last thing in AppInitMain? Surely nothing depends on it running in there
13:47 < cfields> grr.. or does reindexing and crap rely on the callbacks?
13:47 < cfields> achow101: I only ran it once, but it only triggered because I shutdown immediately
13:48 < achow101> ah, ok
13:49 < BlueMatt> cfields: hmmm, I dont *think* anything depends on it, but i was trying to keep the diff when compared to previously where the scheduler is started early low
13:49 < BlueMatt> and at least that change is harder to audit
13:49 < BlueMatt> achow101: it should always crash if you quit bitcoin-qt while its loading
13:49 < BlueMatt> if it finishes loading you should be fine
13:54 < achow101> is the issue present on master?
13:54 < cfields> yes     
13:54 < cfields> BlueMatt: actually, starting the thread last-thing sounds like a good idea anyway. Exactly to ensure that the scheduler isn't used at startup.
13:55 < achow101> is it windows only? I can't seem to replicate on Ubuntu
13:55 < cfields> i'll track down potential users
13:55 < cfields> achow101: testing bitcoin-qt ?
13:55 < achow101> yeah
13:56 < cfields> I don't see anything that would make it win only...
13:56 < cfields> you should be able to force it by throwing a "return false" into init
13:57 < BlueMatt> cfields: hmmm...I mean maybe? I dont really want to go read through everything that AppInitMain calls recursively to ensure that is actually the case, but if we want to do that for 17 it seems reasonable
13:57 < cfields> achow101: at init.cpp:1576, s/fRequestShutdown/true/
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14:06 < achow101> cfields: nope, didn't work
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14:11 < cfields> achow101: hmm, not sure why
14:12 < achow101> I'm trying rc2 now, instead of master
14:13 < achow101> nope, not even that had an error
14:13 < cfields> BlueMatt: i think i might see the issue
14:15 < cfields> BlueMatt: BitcoinApplication connects requestedShutdown to shutdown(), but SplashScreen connects it to close()
14:15 < cfields> so it looks like we should re-route that after AppInitMain has started
14:26 < BlueMatt> lol     
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17:36 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] RvMp opened pull request #12341: Correction in choice of words (master...201802030229-qt-dutch-lang-fix) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/12341
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17:52 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake closed pull request #12341: Correction in choice of words in QT (dutch) (master...201802030229-qt-dutch-lang-fix) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/12341
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21:59 < phantomcircuit> does the validateaddress rpc work with segwit addresses?
21:59 < gmaxwell> you mean bc1 addresses? it should. lemme se...
22:00 < sipa> absolutely
22:00 < sipa> it also works with p2sh-p2wpkh addresses
22:01 < sipa> (and will look through the P2SH and give you the pubkey etc)
22:01 < gmaxwell> yes, it does.
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22:03 < phantomcircuit> alrighty
22:03 < phantomcircuit> guess i cant type
22:06 < gmaxwell> or you're trying code prior to 0.16rc?
22:08 < jarthur> Hey. gmax mentioned sipa's SHA-NI branch to me the other day. Is that the latest go at bringing those instructions in?
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22:14 < gmaxwell> I think that branch is just lacking build system integration.
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22:39 < windsok> I'm running 0.16rc2, normally my debug.log is full of messages of other nodes connecting to my node. With 0.16 i'm not seeing that, and i'm seeing lots of messages like "version handshake timeout from 1113". Maybe it's nothing, but thought i'd mention it. I can open an issue if someone think's it's worth investigating
22:41 < gmaxwell> windsok: do you have any connections at all?
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22:41 < gmaxwell> some amount of version handshake timeouts are normal.
22:41 < windsok> yes, I'm receiving blocks
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22:43 < windsok> getnetworkinfo shows 29 connections
22:44 < windsok> just find it weird i'm not seeing the normal connection messages. Normally I see those spy nodes connecting at least every few minutes
22:44 < gmaxwell> e.g. A node here I have got 764 handshake timeouts on 2017-11-23 (on obviously much older code)
22:45 < gmaxwell> and 912 a day ago.
22:47 < gmaxwell> grep  'receive version' debug.log  ? do you see any at all?
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22:47 < gmaxwell> I see spy things
22:48 < windsok> no receive version messages since I upgraded
22:48 < gmaxwell> oh hm. logging change then.
22:48 < gmaxwell> what debug level are you?
22:49 < windsok> whatever the default is
22:49 < gmaxwell> ah!     
22:49 < gmaxwell> #11583
22:49 < gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/11583 | Do not make it trivial for inbound peers to generate log entries by TheBlueMatt · Pull Request #11583 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
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22:50 < gmaxwell> though derp, BlueMatt the version handshake timeout should have gotten covered under that I think!
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22:54 < windsok> ah, so it should be logging those at default level? or you now need debug logging to see them?
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22:55 < gmaxwell> you need debug level to see them now.
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22:55 < gmaxwell> the goal of the change was to prevent peers from spamming your logs
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22:57 < windsok> cool, i'll turn debug logging on and check they are back
22:58 < windsok> weirdly, I like to watch those logs sometimes, to see what random nodes are connecting to me
22:58 < Randolf> That's good.
22:59 < Randolf> That way the log files, by default, are more focused on the more important things, and are smaller (easier to grep, etc.).
23:03 < windsok> yeah i see them with debug=net. crapton of logging with that on though hah
23:04 < gmaxwell> you can turn logging levels on and off using the logging rpc.
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23:10 < Randolf> It's reasonable to assume that an administrator who selects a more detailed logging level will be expecting more logging activity.  A default logging level that leaves out unnecessary entries such as things that can appear as spam is a good choice.
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23:56 < dafuq> could i get a pointer to where in the src the code for DLing the blk*.dat is located?
23:58 < ossifrage> I'd include "version handshake timeout from " in the list of trivial for a peer to generate a log entry
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