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[~ProfMac@2001:470:b8ac:0:442d:e50b:3524:6afe] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 07:35 -!- DrFeelGood [~DrFeelGoo@unaffiliated/olufunmilayo] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 07:36 -!- ProfMac [~ProfMac@2001:470:b8ac:0:442d:e50b:3524:6afe] has quit [Client Quit] 07:36 -!- ProfMac [~ProfMac@2001:470:b8ac:0:442d:e50b:3524:6afe] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 08:00 -!- laurentmt [~Thunderbi@176.158.157.202] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 08:15 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 2 new commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/29fad97c320c...bb98aec6743e 08:15 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master a7324bd practicalswift: Format timestamps using ISO 8601 formatting (e.g. "2018-02-28T12:34:56Z")... 08:15 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master bb98aec Wladimir J. van der Laan: Merge #12567: util: Print timestamp strings in logs using ISO 8601 formatting... 08:15 -!- pierre_rochard [~pierre_ro@unaffiliated/pierre-rochard/x-3593157] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 08:16 -!- cryptojanitor [uid278088@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-cbsmmxeuftjlmlrm] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 08:16 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj closed pull request #12567: util: Print timestamp strings in logs using ISO 8601 formatting (master...iso-8601) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/12567 08:16 -!- pierre_rochard [~pierre_ro@unaffiliated/pierre-rochard/x-3593157] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 08:24 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@c-73-181-185-197.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:25 -!- BullShark [sid226214@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-qrklvwqzruyczvvi] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:26 -!- BullShark [sid226214@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-mzqxihfdsbdvhoxd] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 08:26 -!- wbnns [sid105317@21/bitcoin/binns] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:26 -!- CodeShark [sid126576@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-nuarunkeosuzxyze] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:26 -!- CodeShark 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joined #bitcoin-core-dev 09:12 -!- bzb [~bzb@135-23-193-53.cpe.pppoe.ca] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 09:12 -!- molly [~molly@unaffiliated/molly] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:13 -!- mol [~molly@unaffiliated/molly] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 09:14 -!- larafale [~larafale@ax213-1-82-66-157-194.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 09:15 -!- molly [~molly@unaffiliated/molly] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 09:16 -!- mmgen [~mmgen@gateway/tor-sasl/mmgen] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 09:17 -!- mmgen [~mmgen@gateway/tor-sasl/mmgen] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 09:17 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] practicalswift opened pull request #12665: Add compile time checking for all run time locking assertions (master...compile-time-checking-of-runtime-assertions) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/12665 09:18 -!- mol [~molly@unaffiliated/molly] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 09:20 -!- juscamarena [~juscamare@199.102.243.247] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 09:35 < eklitzke> i was looking at malloc stats before/after flushing the dbcache, it looks like glibc malloc doesn't do so hot: https://gist.github.com/eklitzke/9cdcedaf5d15157f79e59128edd83234 09:35 < eklitzke> the memory use for heap 7 (where the loadblk thread is running) is basically the same before and after the 2GB flush 09:37 -!- tryphe_ [~tryphe@unaffiliated/tryphe] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 09:38 -!- molly [~molly@unaffiliated/molly] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 09:38 < sipa> eklitzke: how do i view that? 09:39 -!- tryphe [~tryphe@unaffiliated/tryphe] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 09:39 < eklitzke> bitcoin-cli getmemory mallocinfo 09:42 < sipa> o 09:44 < eklitzke> you can get global stats with mallinfo(3) but the xml thing seems to be the only way to get the stats broken down by arena (for bitcoin each thread effectively gets its own arena) 09:46 < gmaxwell> eklitzke: by do so hot, you're expecting usage to go down... I wouldn't expect it to due to fragmentation. the cache is kazillions of tiny sparse allocations that all happened at different times. 09:46 < eklitzke> it may not be fragmentation per se but it's not releasing the memory back to the os 09:47 < eklitzke> i was experimenting with trying to dynamically change the dbcache size and it was ineffecitve for this reason, even when using rehash etc. 09:48 < eklitzke> it would be nice if the dbcache could be given its own arena since it uses so much memory (on many configurations) and has a somewhat unique allocation pattern 09:49 < gmaxwell> Instead, I'd rather it didn't allocate at all. 09:49 < eklitzke> you mean like with a slab allocator? 09:49 < gmaxwell> what I'd previously propsosed is that we make it into an open hash table, with all data internal. (and an exception map for rare unusually large entries) 09:50 < eklitzke> i was thinking about that too 09:50 < gmaxwell> everything inline, so no pointer chasing in lookups. 09:50 < gmaxwell> (except for the exception entries) 09:50 < eklitzke> nearly everything in the cache is the same size, the data could fit very compactly 09:50 < gmaxwell> right. 09:51 < gmaxwell> just make every entry the same size, and the rare ones that don't fit, the storage is a union with a pointer, and a flag tells you to look in an map for the payload. 09:51 < gmaxwell> or something along those lines. 09:51 < eklitzke> makes sense 09:52 < sipa> but avoiding allocating inside the LevelDB batch creation would need serious refactoring 09:52 < eklitzke> leveldb isn't really optimized for the way bitcoin writes to it 09:53 < eklitzke> you could make it a lot more efficient 09:53 < gmaxwell> and entries could be never deleted from the open hash table, just flagged.. and make the insert routine understand that it can just write over the first non-dirty entry it encounters. 09:54 < eklitzke> it would require kind of serious surgery to the leveldb guts, but leveldb already represents the data in ordered ranges for the sstables, and the data to be flushed can be sorted, so i think you could redo the merge algorithm to zip through the on-disk data and the data being flushed and do the merge without doing a lot of allocatoins 09:54 -!- juscamarena [~juscamare@199.102.243.247] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:54 < luke-jr> IIRC, at least at one point, Linux didn't *support* processes releasing memory back to the OS. But that may have changed (it's been years) 09:55 < eklitzke> linux has supported releasing memory back to the operating system for 20+ years if you munmap the data 09:55 < eklitzke> you can't do it with brk/sbrk though 09:56 -!- jamesob_ [~jamesob@172.56.35.96] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 09:56 < eklitzke> glibc mixes both which is kind of weird 09:56 < eklitzke> from what i can tell the main arena is allocated with sbrk and the other arenas are allocated with mmap 09:57 < sipa> iirc it's just a threshold 09:57 < sipa> memory ranges above a certain size are anonymous mmaps 09:58 < eklitzke> i think step 1 though would be to implement greg 09:58 < eklitzke> s idea, since that doesn't require messing with the allocator used by the rest of the code 09:58 < sipa> i believe greg is notoriously hard to implement 09:58 < sipa> ah. 09:59 < sipa> eklitzke: i have a flame graph! 10:00 < eklitzke> did you get it color coded? 10:00 < sipa> yes; it's inside libsecp256k1 though, in a microbenchmark 10:00 < eklitzke> awesome! 10:01 < sipa> http://bitcoin.sipa.be/flame.svg 10:02 -!- ctrlbreak [~ctrlbreak@fctnnbsc38w-47-55-95-227.dhcp-dynamic.fibreop.nb.bellaliant.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:02 < eklitzke> for micro benchmarks you should look at "perf stat" (man perf-stat) 10:02 < sipa> ah 10:02 -!- ctrlbreak [~ctrlbreak@fctnnbsc38w-47-55-95-227.dhcp-dynamic.fibreop.nb.bellaliant.net] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 10:02 < sipa> the same scripts apply? 10:03 < eklitzke> no it just gives you detailed information about things like cache hits/misses, cpu cycles, page faults, etc. 10:04 < eklitzke> so much gmpz realloc 10:05 < sipa> the problem i'm trying to investigate is why this call to GMP takes 600 cpu cycles when run inside the microbenchmark, but 6000 cpu cycles when called from a higher-level benchmark in core 10:05 < sipa> and at this point i have no better guess than cache effects... but i'm very surprised it would be that much difference 10:07 -!- alexneudatchin [~alex@31.148.138.236] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 10:08 < eklitzke> one guess: in the benchmark there's one thread so everything is in the same core and numa memory zone, but in core the code has to access memory in another numa zone 10:08 < eklitzke> there's some stuff in numactl you could do try to force core to run all on one core to test that hypothesis 10:08 < sipa> the whole thing should be one thread even when called from bench_bitcoin 10:09 < eklitzke> try perf-stat -a --per-core 10:10 -!- sipa [~pw@2001:19f0:ac01:2fb:5400:ff:fe5b:c3ff] has quit [Changing host] 10:10 -!- sipa [~pw@unaffiliated/sipa1024] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 10:11 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@c-73-181-185-197.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 10:16 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@c-73-181-185-197.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:17 -!- Giszmo [~leo@pc-37-38-86-200.cm.vtr.net] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 10:26 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@c-73-181-185-197.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 10:27 -!- CapitanRetardo [~CapitanRe@ipbcc23e7c.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 10:31 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@c-73-181-185-197.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 10:32 -!- cryptojanitor [uid278088@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-nwhalnfncauknaip] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 10:36 -!- dermoth [~dermoth@gateway/tor-sasl/dermoth] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:36 -!- dermoth [~dermoth@gateway/tor-sasl/dermoth] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 10:40 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@c-73-181-185-197.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 10:44 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@c-73-181-185-197.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:53 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@c-73-181-185-197.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 10:57 -!- Victorsueca [~Victorsue@unaffiliated/victorsueca] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:57 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@c-73-181-185-197.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 10:57 -!- Victorsueca [~Victorsue@unaffiliated/victorsueca] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 10:59 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@c-73-181-185-197.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 10:59 -!- SopaXorzTaker is now known as ^y 11:02 -!- qu4ku [~qu4ku@aepr201.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. 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I would like to learn where this is. 18:52 -!- tryphe_ [~tryphe@unaffiliated/tryphe] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 18:55 < Randolf> ProfMac_2: If it's a rumour, then shouldn't the first step be to summarily dismiss it? 18:55 < luke-jr> #bitcoin-core-dev is not "ask Core devs questions so you can build your scamcoin" 18:56 -!- xinxi_ [~xinxi@175.156.124.27] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:00 < ProfMac_2> Randolf, verify. As this is a direct place to do. 19:00 < sipa> sounds totally plausible - many developers work on various projects 19:01 < sipa> but i haven't heard about something like that 19:01 < ProfMac_2> Thanks, sipa. 19:01 < sipa> it's also the first time i hear znort mentioned in years - i sort of assume there have been various other related things 19:04 < ProfMac_2> I searched the best I could, and ended up there. I'm starting to think that small utilities put into the best design place in the core-client is the best way to simultaneously get a working appliance, and learn the core code. 19:04 -!- krypto-praxis [~krypto_pr@p200300C853F85D00AC6CBA1BB734DCE1.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 19:06 < Randolf> ProfMac_2: Okay, fair enough. 19:12 -!- xinxi [~xinxi@175.156.124.27] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 19:17 -!- xinxi [~xinxi@175.156.124.27] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 19:24 < windsok> ProfMac_2: not sure if it's what you are looking for, but https://github.com/citp/BlockSci has a parser 19:25 < ProfMac_2> Thank you. I'll look now. 19:26 < ProfMac_2> Um, 2 days since an update is scary. 19:27 < sipa> scary long or scary short? 19:28 < ProfMac_2> I think 19 year old are proud when they did an update minutes before an important meeting. Older supervisors think the design is good when it is working fine 5 years later. 19:28 < ProfMac_2> 'though I formed those attitudes before git was around. 19:34 < sipa> "design still working 5 years later" is not the same as "no development at all" 19:34 -!- xinxi [~xinxi@175.156.124.27] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 19:39 -!- xinxi [~xinxi@175.156.124.27] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:40 < Randolf> sipa++ 19:43 < ProfMac_2> true. 19:43 -!- xinxi [~xinxi@175.156.124.27] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 19:47 -!- unholymachine [~quassel@2601:8c:c003:9f16:f0df:68ec:b3af:cf9a] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:48 -!- xinxi [~xinxi@175.156.124.27] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:48 -!- unholymachine [~quassel@2601:8c:c003:9f16:a42f:773a:b82b:6285] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 20:02 -!- CapitanRetardo [~CapitanRe@ipbcc23e7c.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:10 -!- xinxi [~xinxi@175.156.124.27] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 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