--- Log opened Tue Sep 04 00:00:59 2018
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01:19 < provoostenator> Ok, this is new... I'm getting a 500 server error for #13937
01:19 < gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/13937 | HTTP Error 500: Internal Server Error
01:19 < provoostenator> (it's my rebase of #12138)
01:19 < gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/12138 | Track best-possible-headers by TheBlueMatt · Pull Request #12138 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
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02:41 < fanquake> wumpus 14140, 14135, 14129, 14128, 14094, 14013 probably all mergeable
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03:04 < wumpus> fanquake: thanks!
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04:51 < fanquake> wumpus thanks. 14133 could also go in
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06:37 < as1nc> hello folks, beautiful day here in south of france, bitcoin is doing great, what else can we ask ? :) oh yeah, anyone has any tips on how I could guess what type of a addresses is used (p2sh, p2pkh..) given an xpub, ypub or zpub key ? is that even possible ? 
06:40 < as1nc> given an xpubkey, i would like to know the good derivation path i should use for that key, without having the user to specify it upfront
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07:02 < BlueMatt> anyone else get a 500 trying to open #13937?
07:02 < gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/13937 | HTTP Error 500: Internal Server Error
07:06 < BlueMatt> heh, I guess gribble does too
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07:16 < as1nc> same here
07:17 < michagogo> Hrm, weird, looks like I disconnected a week ago and half my channels didn't rejoin
07:17 < echeveria> michagogo: +r
07:17 < michagogo> Hm?
07:18 < harding> michagogo: since the recent spam attacks about a month ago, a lot of channels now require being a registered user (+r).  If you were disconnected and don't use SASL auth, you probably weren't registered with nickserv when you reconnected.
07:18 < michagogo> Was there a problem with services a week ago? Because I ID with SASL...
07:19 < michagogo> Anyway
07:19 < echeveria> nickserv has also been funky and was rebooted a few times.
07:19 < michagogo> I may be able to get back to gitian again soon - working on migrating my VM over to my new laptop 🎉
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07:24 < phantomcircuit> michagogo, services were broken and one of the servers decided to stop doing anything at all
07:24 < phantomcircuit> (my connection to it got pongs but that's it)
07:24 < michagogo> Heh
07:25 < michagogo> In other news: It seems on Windows 10 the OS itself runs in a VM, so Virtualbox doesn't work because Hyper-V is already using the CPU's virtualization capabilities as a bare-metal hypervisor
07:26 < michagogo> So I migrated the VM over to Hyper-V, converting from legacy to UEFI Secure Boot along the way
07:26 < michagogo> And it seems it worked!
07:27 < michagogo> (Apparently boot-repair doesn't like it when apt on the target system is configured to use localhost as a proxy)
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07:37 < provoostenator> 13937 can be found here, though without PR comments: https://github.com/Sjors/bitcoin/commits/2018/08/best-header-tracking
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07:48 < phantomcircuit> michagogo, windows uses hyper-v for some compatibility stuff
07:48 < phantomcircuit> iirc literally runs win xp
07:49 < michagogo> phantomcircuit: Huh? For what exactly?
07:49 < michagogo> I thought it was for the virtualization-based security
07:57 < phantomcircuit> michagogo, possibly they dont do this anymore but vista ran an entire copy of xp for binaries with the xp compatibility flag set
07:59 < sipa> phantomcircuit: that was an optional component, and it was pretty much just a VM
07:59 < sipa> by default it ran in a window, where had the xp desktop etc
07:59 < sipa> though there was a mode that would forward the windows in the VM to the outside video
08:01 < sipa> hmm, googling tells me it still exists and is more integrated now
08:01 < sipa> my experience with it is from win7 iirc
08:04 < phantomcircuit> sipa, i remember it being able to pull the window out of the vm and integrate it with the main ui
08:04 < sipa> yeah
08:05 < phantomcircuit> iirc it also had a shim to bring the local fs into the vm or something
08:10 < michagogo> Anything new I should know about building?
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10:00 < phantomcircuit> that reminds me, it would be nice if the integration testing ran for each commit in a pull
10:00 < phantomcircuit> as it stands it's not easy to tell from a glance whether commits are themselves passing the tests
10:06 < gmaxwell> phantomcircuit: is your reason for asking because of the preference that every commit passes the test in order to aid bisecting? or?
10:07 < phantomcircuit> gmaxwell, yes
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10:16 < sipa> phantomcircuit: there was some discussion about that lately; i don't remember where though
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10:16 < sipa> unfortunately, it doesn't seem easy
10:17 < gmaxwell> it's straight forward with jenkins and I assume other traditional ci stuff.
10:20 < jamesob> phantomcircuit gmaxwell: that's going to amount to *a lot* of compute time given the amount of rebasing we do on large PRs
10:21 < jamesob> we could start with `make check` for each commit, probably
10:21 < phantomcircuit> in the (not to distant) past i've run into commits that simply dont build while bisecting
10:23 < andytoshi> i believe `git rebase master -x make` will simply try to build ... you could disable tests and gui on this
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10:26 < gmaxwell> Passing make check for each commit is likely sufficient.
10:29 < phantomcircuit> indeed
10:35 < sipa> andytoshi: ooh, i didn't know about rebase -x
10:37 < sipa> jamesob: make check on every commit would be cool
10:38 < sipa> jamesob: it could even be a separate phase, between the lint checks and the full checks
10:49 < sipa> actually, that'd probably be a bad idea as we don't expect many failures in those, and they're probably even slower than the other runs
10:49 < gmaxwell> make check runs a lot of weird stuff.
10:51 < gmaxwell> maybe just one of the other CI tests that does the most trivial thing that involves actually starting the daemon.
10:52 < sipa> but for large PRs, this will likely introduce an order of magnitude increase in delay until results are available
10:53 < sipa> unless we can have one travis job for each
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12:50 < michagogo> cfields: The depends source fallback is missing qt
12:50 < michagogo> 0.17.0's qt, at least
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13:12 < jamesob> sipa: maybe we can have another service (e.g. circleci) run checks like that out of band with travis
13:18 < sipa> right
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14:54 < polydin> herro?
14:55 < sipa> wercome
14:55 < polydin> lol
14:55 < polydin> got a question about pruning
14:56 < sipa> if you don't ask it, you'll never get an a swer
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14:57 < polydin> i was running low on laptop space so i decided to run bitcoind prune=100000 to restrict disk space used to 100 GB
14:57 < polydin> but it is incredibly slow 
14:57 < polydin> its been days and it still hasn't loaded
14:58 < polydin> is this normal?
14:58 < sipa> with pruning, disk flushing is much more frequent which can hurt performance, especially on systems with sloe i/o
14:58 < echeveria> you should ask in #bitcoin.
14:58 < sipa> i believe this is improved in 0.17
14:59 < polydin> sipa, thanks yeah i was wondering if there was a project in there i could work on
14:59 < polydin> if there was something i could work on to improve it
14:59 < polydin> but i guess you guys already did it!
15:00 < sipa> contributions on other issues are of course always welcome
15:01 < polydin> are there any other issues you can think of that need working other than the github list?
15:01 < polydin> like maybe a longer term thing to work on
15:01 < echeveria> polydin: there's a tag for low hanging, get started fruit. 
15:02 < echeveria> polydin: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/labels/good%20first%20issue
15:02 < polydin> echeveria, ok thanks i guess i can just check that out
15:02 < echeveria> polydin: just hanging around here, there's often small tasks commented on
15:03 < polydin> echeveria, sorry could you rephrase that last sentence, not clear to me?
15:03 < sipa> polydin: it's useful to just hang out in this irc channel
15:04 < echeveria> polydin: many times in this channel, people will have suggestions about things that don't make it into issues. there's frequent opportunities to get your teeth into the code. 
15:04 < sipa> also, getting familiar with the project, the source code, and its workflows takes time
15:05 < sipa> having a specific project is a good way to get going, but getting proficient takes time
15:05 < polydin> sipa, i know, i've honestly spent so much time reading the code but it seems like i'm better off just contributing to get into hte workflow
15:06 < polydin> i will start off with the low hanging fruit and build up to a project, thank you so much for your help!
15:06 < echeveria> polydin: you're invited to message me privately, or ask me on #bitcoin any questions you have about getting started. 
15:06 < echeveria> or here, but this channel isn't great for in depth discussion. 
15:06 < polydin> echeveria, thanks so much!
15:07 < polydin> is this channel more for just updates about specific PRs and such?
15:07 < sipa> polydin: no, this channel is about development of bitcoin core
15:08 < polydin> ok got it, again thanks guys
15:08 < echeveria> it's just meant to be somewhat low volume so people can kept up with the logs (I've made a point of reading the logs, even if I haven't been here), but not restricted to PR discussion. 
15:08 < sipa> if you have questions about the code, specific PRs, workflow, ... feel free to ask here
15:08 < sipa> but not general discussion on bitcoin or usage
15:09 < echeveria> or how to pronounce sipa's name. 
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15:11 < polydin> lulz ok
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15:38 < michagogo> Ooh, 0.17 builds on bionic?
15:38 < michagogo> Cool
15:38  * michagogo runs make-base-vm and heads towards bed
15:44 < achow101> michagogo: no guarantee that that's gonna work
15:44 < achow101> supposedly kvm stil doesn't work, even with the new vm-builder
15:44 < michagogo> Hmm?
15:44 < michagogo> That doesn’t sound promising
15:44 < michagogo> Though I’m using local
15:44 < michagogo> lxc
15:46 < michagogo> Wait, does gitian lxc still use vmbuilder and convert, or did it get changed to make it better?
15:46 < achow101> I think it uses vmbuilder
15:46 < michagogo> Crap
15:46 < achow101> I could be wrong
15:46 < achow101> you should keep an eye on your build though
15:47 < michagogo> I’ll see later (tomorrow or something) if it worked
15:47 < michagogo> It’s almost 2 am here
15:55 < michagogo> achow101: nope, looks like I remembered correctly
15:55 < michagogo> It uses debootstrap directly
15:56 < achow101> ah ok
15:56 < michagogo> https://github.com/devrandom/gitian-builder/commit/af56f89a6acffd363c845a489ec163f0d85d30be
15:57 < michagogo> Looks like it went in as a birthday gift for me :D
16:03 < luke-jr> michagogo: good luck. I had to install by hand
16:14 < michagogo> luke-jr: perhaps the image itself is broken, but `bin/make-base-vm —lxc —suite bionic` appears to have completed without errors
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16:24 < leishman> is there a reason logs don't show up on https://botbot.me/freenode/bitcoin-core-dev/ anymore? Is there a bot user in this channel?
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16:27 < achow101> leishman: perhaps the bot wasn't able to login after freenode's recent server downtime/maintenance/whatever happened a few days ago
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16:29 < michagogo> luke-jr: hrm, make-clean-vm fails, some error about lxc-init and a container name or something
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16:31 < achow101> michagogo: are you using lxc 3?
16:31 < michagogo> My host is xenial
16:32 < achow101> what do you get from lxc-start --version
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