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02:32 < promag> wumpus: mind adding #14941 to hp?
02:32 < gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/14941 | rpc: Make unloadwallet wait for complete wallet unload by promag · Pull Request #14941 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
02:34 < promag> also, I think it should be backported to 0.17
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02:50 < wumpus> I think it's most useful to discuss high priority for review during the meetings, it's mainly meant for PRs that block further work
02:50 < wumpus> agree re: backporting, if it's no too involved/risky
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03:03 < promag> wumpus: kk
03:04 < wumpus> to be clear I"m okay with adding it to high priority, but the idea once was to have discussion about this
03:06 < wumpus> not that it becomes a 'ask wumpus list'
03:12 < promag> it's fine really, you are right
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06:04 < promag> #14993 could go
06:04 < gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/14993 | rpc: Fix data race (UB) in InterruptRPC() by practicalswift · Pull Request #14993 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
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06:23 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] promag opened pull request #15002: 0.17: Backport #14941 (0.17...2018-12-backport-14941) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/15002
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06:59 < promag> add label RPC to #15002
06:59 < gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/15002 | 0.17: Backport #14941 by promag · Pull Request #15002 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
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07:04 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 2 new commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/f080c65a09a8...cb52cee29d0d
07:04 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 6c10037 practicalswift: rpc: Fix data race (UB) in InterruptRPC()
07:04 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master cb52cee Wladimir J. van der Laan: Merge #14993: rpc: Fix data race (UB) in InterruptRPC()...
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07:05 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj closed pull request #14993: rpc: Fix data race (UB) in InterruptRPC() (master...rpc-datarace) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/14993
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07:27 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] practicalswift closed pull request #13382: util: Don't throw in GetTime{Millis,Micros}(). Mark as noexcept. (master...dont-throw-in-GetTimeMillis-and-GetTimeMicros) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/13382
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07:28 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] practicalswift closed pull request #14226: mempool: Fix unintended unsigned integer wraparound in CTxMemPool::UpdateAncestorsOf(bool add, …) when add is false (master...fix-integer-wraparound-in-calculation-of-updateSize-in-UpdateAncestorsOf) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/14226
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10:49 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] jonasschnelli opened pull request #15004: [WIP] [do not merge] fix OSX notification bug (master...2018/12/osx_notification_fix) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/15004
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11:06 < luke-jr> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/14228 should probably get backported?
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11:50 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] jonasschnelli closed pull request #15004: [WIP] [do not merge] fix OSX notification bug (master...2018/12/osx_notification_fix) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/15004
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13:44 < achow101> moneyball: meeting topic suggestion: having users create their wallets instead of automatically creating a default wallet
13:47 < achow101> #proposedmeetingtopic having users create their wallets instead of automatically creating a default wallet
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16:28 < jnewbery> achow101: +1. I think we'd want to merge #13100 (and hence complete https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/projects/2) before we enforced that
16:28 < gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/13100 | gui: Add dynamic wallets support by promag · Pull Request #13100 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
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16:38 < sipa> jnewbery: (can't comment on github right now) i intentionally do not want to print private keys in error messages; they may be logged in places where they shouldn't
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18:08 < promag> jnewbery: #13100 branch locally has a pile of changes, maybe I should cut down to the minimum and improve on follow ups
18:08 < gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/13100 | gui: Add dynamic wallets support by promag · Pull Request #13100 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
18:14 < gwillen> I ran into an interesting wallet issue with multisig when trying to demo my offline signing work that's still ongoing
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18:15 < gwillen> which is that (1) there's no way to stop a wallet that I intend to use as only-watchonly from generating keys, and (2) spending from a multisig automatically sends change to those keys I didn't actually want generated
18:15 < gwillen> I suspect that RPC users of multisig are already aware of this footgun and handle change manually, and I am planning to adopt "manual change address" as a stopgap for GUI use
18:15 < gwillen> until we have descriptors which should hopefully solve this
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18:16 < gwillen> but I'm going to push again for the idea that a given wallet ought to be either only-watchonly or non-watchonly
18:16 < gwillen> and that mixing a local keypool into a transaction sending from not the local keypool is scary
18:17 < gwillen> although I guess I asked for this kind of issue by tricking / cajoling the wallet into creating a transaction spending from a "solvable" but not "spendable" coin
18:17 < gwillen> because what else should it do
18:17 < sipa> gwillen: there is a recently introduced feature to make a wallet in no-private-keys mode
18:18 < gwillen> ooh, beautiful, that sounds perfect for preventing this 
18:18 < gwillen> do you happen to know, if the wallet is called on to create change in that mode, what will it do? Just give up?
18:19 < gwillen> (and how do I engage this mode)
18:19 < sipa> i don't know; i'm currebtly flying, it's a bit hard to check :)
18:19 < gwillen> (and does it make sense that I imagine descriptors will solve this, since if I'm spending from a given descriptor, that same descriptor or a related descriptor should be used to derive where change goes?)
18:20 < gwillen> np, I'm about to head to dinner anyway, just wanted to start thinking about it
18:21 < sipa> gwillen: no, you'll just have 2 specially designated descriptors in a wallet; one where receive addresses are drawn from, and one where change is drawn from
18:22 < sipa> so yes, that's a solution by making change selection explicit and separate from the wallet's keys
18:23 < gwillen> ok great, thanks for validating my hope that all my problems will be solved in the future
18:24 < gwillen> I know I said that I didn't want to wait for descriptors, but actually the change problem means this is going to kind of suck without them
18:24 < gwillen> it's going to have to be either manual change or address reuse
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18:25 < gwillen> do descriptors-as-envisioned have support for HD + multisig in some fashion?
18:25 < sipa> ure
18:26 < sipa> sure
18:26 < gwillen> I assume it would be something like "2 of 3 of keys derived from X/Y/Z" and it automatically increments all three together, or something, when generating a new address?
18:26 < gwillen> (the question also came up in conversation today of whether there is a good way to support multiple people generating addresses from the same keys e.g. the holders of a multisig, and not accidentally generating the same address)
18:26 < sipa> yes... have you ever read the descriptors description (no pun intended)?
18:26 < sipa> doc/descriptors.md in the repo
18:26 < gwillen> (e.g. by letting them generate from different subpaths)
18:27 < gwillen> ha, it's been awhile, I will reread, thanks
18:27 < gwillen> ah yes, I see it specifically addresses this, cool
18:28 < sipa> you can just say mukti(2,xpubpath/*,xpub/path/*,xpub/path/*) and it will expand to equal-last-index entries from the xpubs
18:28 < sipa> *multi
18:28 < gwillen> *nods*
18:28 < gwillen> and I guess supporting multiple derivation paths would be easiest by just using multiple descriptors
18:29 < gwillen> e.g. I have a wallet that has "my" descriptors that it uses to generate addresses, and "your" descriptors that it only uses to watch the chain, and it treats them both as "mine"
18:29 < sipa> right
18:29 < gwillen> (this is purely to prevent collisions if we're independently generating receive addresses to the same wallet)
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19:26 < achow101> gwillen: createwallet has a disable private keys parameter so you can make a wallet without any privkeys
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19:39 < gwillen> achow101: thanks, I hadn't been using createwallet, I was just adding --wallet= and it created it for me
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