--- Log opened Thu Feb 21 00:00:55 2019
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00:09 < droark> Hi. In testnet, it appears that dust limits for outputs (dustrealyfee) are ignored. Can somebody point out where in the code this exception occurs? I'm getting lost trying to find it.
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00:18 < wumpus> droark: the dust check is done in policy.cpp, IsStandardTx, this isn't checked for regtest and testnet by default, but can be overridden using `-acceptnonstdtxn`
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00:23 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 4 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/f9775a865597...3e1ca1348cbd
00:23 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 745a2ac Hennadii Stepanov: Improve PID file removing errors logging
00:23 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 561e375 Hennadii Stepanov: Make PID file creating errors fatal
00:23 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 3782075 Hennadii Stepanov: Move all PID file stuff to init.cpp
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00:24 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj merged pull request #15278: Improve PID file error handling (master...20190128-pidfile-logging) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/15278
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00:25 < droark> @wumpus - Thanks! Much appreciated. Missed the greater context.
00:25 < wumpus> yw
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00:44 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/3e1ca1348cbd...4d126f289c7d
00:45 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 901baf2 fanquake: doc: update FreeBSD build guide for 12.0
00:45 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 4d126f2 Wladimir J. van der Laan: Merge #15416: doc: update FreeBSD build guide for 12.0
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00:45 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj merged pull request #15416: doc: update FreeBSD build guide for 12.0 (master...docs-freebsd-120) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/15416
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00:51 < wumpus> #15267 adds some documentation comments, would be nice if someone with a good grasp of the mempool/caching logic (sipa, sdaftuar ?) could review them for correctness
00:51 < gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/15267 | doc: explain AcceptToMemoryPoolWorkers coins_to_uncache by jamesob · Pull Request #15267 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
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00:59 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/4d126f289c7d...b853746d4a8a
00:59 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 55e05a8 Martin Erlandsson: Added some factors that affect the dependency list
00:59 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master b853746 Wladimir J. van der Laan: Merge #15222: docs: Add info about factors that affect dependency list
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01:00 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj merged pull request #15222: docs: Add info about factors that affect dependency list (master...patch-2) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/15222
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02:18 < wumpus> luke-jr: I've sent the addrv2 message draft BIP to the mailing list, can you assign me a BIP number please?
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03:47 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] riordant opened pull request #15456: Enable PID file creation on WIN (master...master) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/15456
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04:21 < gmaxwell> If anyone is getting bored waiting for 0.18 to ship to get moving on other work...  libsecp256k1  has a couple PRs that could just use some C code review:  
04:21 < gmaxwell> in particular: https://github.com/bitcoin-core/secp256k1/pull/578
04:22 < gmaxwell> also https://github.com/bitcoin-core/secp256k1/pull/584 (cross compiling build system review)
04:22 < wumpus> I'll take a look
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04:23 < gmaxwell> and one final one https://github.com/bitcoin-core/secp256k1/pull/568  (which mostly I want plain C code review-- as it previously had a silly pointer vs int bug, though this one touches more complicated code that might leave people unfamilar with the library feeling lost)
04:24 < gmaxwell> wumpus: that would be great, thank you!
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05:15 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] Sjors opened pull request #15457: Check std::system for -[alert|block|wallet]notify (master...2019/02/std__system) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/15457
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07:29 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] promag opened pull request #15458: refactor: Drop redundant wallet reference (master...2019-02-interfaces-wallet) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/15458
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08:02 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] marcoagner opened pull request #15459: [doc] release process: how to calculate m_assumed_blockchain_size and m_assumed_chain_state_size (master...doc_blockchain_and_chainstate_size_calculation) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/15459
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08:52 < jnewbery> Hi all. dongcarl is doing great work picking up the p2p refactor project (https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/projects/4). I think it makes sense for him to have write access so he can update that board. Due to github permissions, that would also allow give him write access to do things like tag and close issues. It would *not* give him commit permissions.
08:52 < jnewbery> any objections?
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08:53 < wumpus> no, sgtm
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09:18 < gkrizek> I updated #15255 with MarcoFalke 's suggestions if anyone cares to take another look.
09:18 < gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/15255 | [tests] Remove travis_wait from lint script by gkrizek · Pull Request #15255 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
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09:33 < provoostenator> Would be nice to get this one line documentation change in: #13676
09:33 < gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/13676 | Explain that mempool memory is added to -dbcache by Sjors · Pull Request #13676 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
09:52 < luke-jr> wumpus: I don't see a PR? (nor ML discussion, but maybe the subject is just non-obvious?)
09:54 < wumpus> luke-jr: sure, I can make a PR, but though that'd only make sense if there is a bip number
09:55 < luke-jr> BIP 2 put PR before number assignment
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09:57 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/b853746d4a8a...a83aedca1889
09:57 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 7cb1a14 Sjors Provoost: Explain that unused mempool memory is added to -dbcache
09:57 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master a83aedc Wladimir J. van der Laan: Merge #13676: Explain that mempool memory is added to -dbcache
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09:58 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj merged pull request #13676: Explain that mempool memory is added to -dbcache (master...2018/07/dbcache-ibd-mempool) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/13676
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10:04 < wumpus> luke-jr: ok, thanks
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11:01 < promag_> no meeting?
11:01  * luke-jr meets with promag_
11:01 < jnewbery> hi
11:01 < jamesob> I think it was done earlier due to a conf-related timezone shift?
11:02 < kanzure> hi
11:02 < promag_> luke-jr: o/
11:02 < achow101> jamesob: no?
11:02 < moneyball> oh?
11:02 < achow101> \me performs the wumpus summoning ritual
11:03 < jamesob> nvm I'm full of it probably
11:03 < luke-jr> XD
11:03 < jnewbery> #action hunt the wumpus
11:03 < kanzure> wumpus is an endangered species and we probably shouldn't hunt to extinction
11:03 < promag_> anyway bbl 
11:04 < luke-jr> promag_: ⁈
11:04 < luke-jr> ok, let's all discuss promag_'s PRs behind his back
11:05 < MarcoFalke> Let's start by proposing topics
11:05 < MarcoFalke> s/start/wait/
11:06  * sipa half online from FC19
11:06 < wumpus> #startmeeting
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11:06 < wumpus> sorry
11:06 < wumpus> #bitcoin-core-dev Meeting: wumpus sipa gmaxwell jonasschnelli morcos luke-jr sdaftuar jtimon cfields petertodd kanzure bluematt instagibbs phantomcircuit codeshark michagogo marcofalke paveljanik NicolasDorier jl2012 achow101 meshcollider jnewbery maaku fanquake promag provoostenator aj Chris_Stewart_5 dongcarl gwillen jamesob ken281221 ryanofsky gleb
11:07 < MarcoFalke> heh, I don't think there is much to discuss anyway?
11:07 < moneyball> no proposed topics during the week
11:07 < gmaxwell> HI
11:07 < MarcoFalke> Has anyone seen issues after the feature freeze that are not related to emojis?
11:07 < promag_> I'll submit a couple of fixes for 0.18, then help achow101 on create wallet, cheers
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11:07 < moneyball> and congrats to everyone for completing feature freeze!
11:07 < promag_> emojis ^
11:07 < wumpus> the good news is, we're very well on schedule; there's two PRs left to be merged for 0.18 #15402 #15401 
11:07 < gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/15402 | Granular invalidateblock and RewindBlockIndex by sipa · Pull Request #15402 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
11:07 < gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/15401 | rpc: Actually throw help when passed invalid number of params by MarcoFalke · Pull Request #15401 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
11:08 < achow101> MarcoFalke: #15453. promag_ and I figured out it's a signalling order problem with qt 5.7.1
11:08 < gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/15453 | Starting bitcoin-qt with -nowallet and then opening a wallet does not show the wallet · Issue #15453 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
11:08 < MarcoFalke> oh, so not related to the filename?
11:08 < achow101> no
11:09 < achow101> well there's that too I think
11:09 < achow101> (different issue)
11:09 < wumpus> please let me know if anything needs tagging for 0.18
11:09 < kanzure> hi
11:12 < luke-jr> <.<
11:13 < wumpus> that's a short meeting I guess
11:13 < wumpus> no topics, nothing to discuss for 0.18 ?
11:13 < jnewbery> I imagine the same will be true for a wallet meeting tomorrow. Do we want to postpone that until next week?
11:13 < wumpus> please help reviewing the last PRs then
11:14 < moneyball> it gives developers time to do some extra reviews such as the PRs gmaxwell referred to earlier today
11:14 < wumpus> so the aim for the 0.18 branch split-off is 2019-03-01, I guess we're going to make it this time :)
11:15 < wumpus> yes, gmaxwell mentioned some secp256k1 PRs that need reviewing
11:15 < luke-jr> [12:21:31] <gmaxwell> If anyone is getting bored waiting for 0.18 to ship to get moving on other work…  libsecp256k1  has a couple PRs that could just use some C code review:  
11:15 < luke-jr> [12:21:34] <gmaxwell> in particular: https://github.com/bitcoin-core/secp256k1/pull/578
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11:16 < wumpus> #endmeeting
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11:16 < jnewbery> meshcollider: any thoughts about postponing wallet meeting to next week?
11:16 < gmaxwell> It isn't critical, but I've been trying to catch up the enormous backlog of PRs on libsecp256k1. (I merged ~11 PRs yesturday).  What I asked about in here were ones probably anyone in here could give a useful review to...
11:17 < gmaxwell> I'm trying to get all the small improvements that were sitting around merged so as only to cause ~1 rebase cycle for the other inflight more significant pieces of code. (e.g. schnorr signatures)
11:17 < luke-jr> ah, not crypto-heavy
11:18 < wumpus> no, some build system and refactoring
11:18 < wumpus> some of it is very scary though
11:19 < jnewbery> I have one other announcement: we're closing applications to the residency on Sunday. We've found that some of our best applicants have been referrals, so if you know anyone who you think would be a good Bitcoin contributor, please send them our way! https://residency.chaincode.com
11:19 < gmaxwell> mostly because I already merged all the stuff that was trivial. :P
11:21 < luke-jr> gmaxwell: unrelated to the PR itself, shouldn't there be checks that pos isn't beyond the end of input here? https://github.com/bitcoin-core/secp256k1/pull/578/files#diff-894075824bb67186a1d4e4cc3961644eR57
11:22 < luke-jr> or is this assuming some degree of well-formed input?
11:25 < gmaxwell> it certantly should not be assuming well-formed input.
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11:27 < gmaxwell> well to be clear, earlier code in the function probably checks a minimum size.
11:27 < luke-jr> am I missing where it gets checked? hopefully I'm not leaving incorrect review comments :x
11:27 < gmaxwell> so if thats what you meant by assuming some degree of well formed, that could be the case.
11:28 < gmaxwell> luke-jr: your thought that its missing a check looks correct to me.
11:28 < gmaxwell> there is a check before each prior one, but I don't see a check after that last postincrement.
11:29 < gmaxwell> thought IIRC there is a pretty good fuzzing based tester for that function, so I'm surprised that if its got a bug there it hasn't been noticed.
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12:13 < meshcollider> jnewbery: postponing tomorrows wallet meeting sounds sensible yep
12:14 < wumpus> what caused the lack of interest in the meting ? is there anything special this week?
12:15 < sipa> wumpus: number of people at financial crypto
12:15 < sipa> (BlueMatt, sdaftuar, cfields_, me, ...)
12:15 < sipa> after this week i have no travel plans for a few months
12:16 < wumpus> right! thanks
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12:30 < jamesob> "i have no travel plans for a few months" bet you're excited sipa
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12:59 < dongcarl> jonasschnelli: Any thoughts on this: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/8888#issuecomment-457003118, I might remove #8888 from the board since it's really old (but has a very lucky issue number!)
12:59 < gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/8888 | CConnman: Remove some global usage in the gui by theuni · Pull Request #8888 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
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13:15 < jonasschnelli> sry. missed the meeting
13:16 < wumpus> heh it wasn't much anyway
13:16 < jonasschnelli> just saw that it was pretty short...
13:16 < jonasschnelli> dongcarl: no real thoughts on that. But I think it would be nice if you pick it up
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13:41 < dongcarl> Cool
13:41 < dongcarl> I'm seeking context on libevent in bitcoin
13:42 < dongcarl> it seems that for the node, we had select only, then pstrateman implemented poll
13:43 < dongcarl> I see that libevent is being pulled in as a dependency for the RPC server as well
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13:44 < dongcarl> But  #11227 for node socket handling wasn't completed.
13:44 < gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/11227 | WIP: switch to libevent for node socket handling by theuni · Pull Request #11227 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
13:44 < dongcarl> Do people still think this is valuable/worth doing?
13:45 < jamesob> dongcarl: my impression is that (i) long-term we'd like to use libevent in lieu of poll() but (ii) it will require more substantial net refactoring and (iii) there are probably additional considerations around the use of another external library for something so critical - e.g. might be prudent to maintain our own fork a la leveldb
13:45 < jamesob> AFAIK poll() was a sort of mid-state along the way to libevent that didn't require as much code churn
13:46 < dongcarl> jamesob: Right, that makes a lot of sense.
13:47 < dongcarl> Poor BSD folks, no kqueue for so long
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13:47 < jamesob> better than a broken kqueue implementation *cough*Darwin*cough* :)
13:47 < dongcarl> lol
13:48 < dongcarl> I remember hearing about libev used somewhere in bitcoin
13:48 < dongcarl> But I might be imagining things
13:48 < dongcarl> Nothing in issues or PR, must be from my dreams
13:50 < jarthur> There are some non-Core softwares out there that use it. cbitcoin and libbitc
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13:52 < dongcarl> jarthur: libev you mean?
13:52 < jarthur> yes
13:55 < dongcarl> Right, from skimming the two libraries I think libev is probably more minimal and (supposedly) better designed, but it'd be another depedency :-/
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14:07 < jamesob> dongcarl: confusingly there's also "libuv" (which looks way too bloated for us)
14:08 < dongcarl> jamesob: Yeah. I want to try out libev. It actually has a "libevent emulation layer" which might be a good step to switching.
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14:08 < dongcarl> According to http://libev.schmorp.de/bench.html you just switch out the header file
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16:58 < gwillen> I just learned about Golomb-Rice codes from BIP 158. That's neat.
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17:00 < gmaxwell> there are more general/efficient techniques, but golomb coding is at least easy to understand and simple to implement.
17:01 < gmaxwell> (and actually efficient in the unusual case that you can make your probablities just right...)
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17:02 < sipa> gmaxwell: you mean range/arithmetic/rANS ?
17:04 < gwillen> the unary quotient/binary remainder scheme is very cute
17:04 < gmaxwell> right (there are another half dozen techniques that also achieve effectively the same thing)
17:04 < gwillen> I am surprised it wasn't presented in the course I had in college where we went over various clever self-delimiting number encoding schemes in an exercise
17:06 < gmaxwell> did you get told the story about how huffman codes were invented?
17:07 < gmaxwell> https://www.maa.org/press/periodicals/convergence/discovery-of-huffman-codes
17:07 < gwillen> we certainly learned about huffman codes, I don't recall a story
17:07  * sipa did not learn any stories about huffman
17:08 < gmaxwell> fano basically tricked huffman into solving the problem by presenting it as coarsework, and not mentioning that it was considered a hard open problem.
17:08 < sipa> coarse or course?
17:09 < gmaxwell> of course. 
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17:47 < gwillen> is there a trick people use when reviewing to see the commits in the proper order? Do you just not use the github interface?
17:48 < gwillen> (github sorts them in a nonsense order, using 'author timestamp' instead of commit timestamp or topological order)
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17:56 < sipa> gwillen: yeah, it's a pain and i don't understand why they do that
17:56 < sipa> i complained once and iirc they said they wouldn't fix it
17:58 < gmaxwell> can you use this to make a PR, get some acks on it, then add an out of order commit that appears above the acks?
17:59 < sipa> the overview page always shows things in "edit order"; if you rewrite an earlier commit it gets moved to the bottom etc
17:59 < sipa> so no
17:59 < sipa> it's only in the commit list order (including on the overview page, within groups of multiple simultaneously-pushed commits) that's sorted by author date
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19:20 < jb55> gwillen: add fetch = +refs/pull/*/head:refs/pull/origin/* and fetch = +refs/pull/*/merge:refs/merge/origin/*
19:20 < jb55> to your .git/config
19:21 < sipa> ah, yes!
19:22 < sipa> that was such a help when i discovered it
19:22 < jb55> then you can git log -p refs/merge/origin/<pr>^..refs/pull/origin/<pr>
19:23 < jb55> I do this call with (magit-log) to do reviews in magit
19:23 < jb55> if you use something like notmuch I have scripts that pulls the PR number automatically out of the subject and launches a magit review: jb55/notmuch-github
19:24 < jb55> only thing that it can't do is code review inside magit, but the magit guy is working on that atm
19:25  * jb55 isn't a fan of the github interface
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19:54 < gwillen> aha, thanks jb55 
20:40 < dongcarl> gwillen: Here are some more tips (including the above)! https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/blob/master/doc/productivity.md#reference-prs-easily-with-refspecs
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23:14 < IZooo> Hello :)
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