--- Log opened Mon Feb 25 00:00:59 2019 00:02 -!- promag [~promag@bl22-246-44.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 00:12 -!- promag [~promag@bl22-246-44.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:20 -!- siom [~siom@165.84.231.19] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 00:21 -!- elichai2 [uid212594@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-hrwoilqvmdjlfdfw] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 00:31 -!- bitcoin-git [~bitcoin-g@x0f.org] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 00:31 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 3 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/f3f9c1de19e6...1a8a5ede9fc3 00:31 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master fa05626 MarcoFalke: rpc: Add RPCHelpMan::IsValidNumArgs() 00:31 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master fa4ce70 MarcoFalke: rpc: Actually throw help when passed invalid number of params 00:31 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 1a8a5ed Wladimir J. van der Laan: Merge #15401: rpc: Actually throw help when passed invalid number of param... 00:31 -!- bitcoin-git [~bitcoin-g@x0f.org] has left #bitcoin-core-dev [] 00:32 -!- bitcoin-git [~bitcoin-g@x0f.org] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 00:32 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj merged pull request #15401: rpc: Actually throw help when passed invalid number of params (master...Mf1902-rpcNumArgs) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/15401 00:32 -!- bitcoin-git [~bitcoin-g@x0f.org] has left #bitcoin-core-dev [] 00:54 -!- jungly [~quassel@79.8.200.97] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 01:11 -!- Deinogalerix21 [~Deinogale@89.238.176.150] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 01:11 -!- instagibbs [~instagibb@pool-100-15-135-248.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 01:13 -!- instagibbs [~instagibb@pool-100-15-135-248.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 01:16 -!- nanai [580491bb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.88.4.145.187] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 01:16 < nanai> hi 01:17 < nanai> can i withdraw b2x to bitcoincore v0.17.1 ? or is it only for btc 01:18 -!- tomillo [d525c0e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.213.37.192.232] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:18 -!- bitcoin-git [~bitcoin-g@x0f.org] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 01:18 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj opened pull request #15471: rpc/gui: Remove 'Unknown block versions being mined' warning (master...2019_02_false_positives) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/15471 01:18 -!- bitcoin-git [~bitcoin-g@x0f.org] has left #bitcoin-core-dev [] 01:19 -!- nanai [580491bb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.88.4.145.187] has quit [Client Quit] 01:20 -!- instagibbs [~instagibb@pool-100-15-135-248.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 01:22 -!- instagibbs [~instagibb@pool-100-15-135-248.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 01:22 -!- promag [~promag@bl6-24-70.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 01:27 -!- promag [~promag@bl6-24-70.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 01:29 -!- rafalcpp [~racalcppp@84-10-11-234.static.chello.pl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:29 -!- queip [~queip@unaffiliated/rezurus] has quit [Quit: bye, freenode] 01:35 -!- timothy [~tredaelli@redhat/timothy] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 01:37 -!- promag [~promag@bl6-24-70.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 01:38 -!- rafalcpp [~racalcppp@84-10-11-234.static.chello.pl] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 01:39 -!- Zenton [~user@unaffiliated/vicenteh] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 01:42 -!- queip [~queip@unaffiliated/rezurus] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 02:01 -!- kexkey [~kexkey@173.209.60.36] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:04 -!- setpill [~setpill@unaffiliated/setpill] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 02:05 < wumpus> uhmmm test_bitcoin is printing loads of these 02:05 < wumpus> Error: Specified -walletdir "/tmp/test_bitcoin/1551089075_943311758/tempdir/path_does_not_exist" does not exist 02:06 -!- setpill [~setpill@unaffiliated/setpill] has quit [Client Quit] 02:08 -!- setpill [~setpill@unaffiliated/setpill] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 02:15 -!- spinza [~spin@155.93.246.187] has quit [Quit: Coyote finally caught up with me...] 02:33 -!- spinza [~spin@155.93.246.187] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 02:33 -!- owowo [~ovovo@unaffiliated/ovovo] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:37 -!- owowo [~ovovo@unaffiliated/ovovo] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 02:43 -!- Deinogalerix21 [~Deinogale@89.238.176.150] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.4] 03:01 -!- mryandao [~mryandao@unaffiliated/mryandao] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:10 -!- JackH_ [~laptop@host81-155-233-158.range81-155.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:21 -!- promag_ [~promag@bl22-246-44.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 03:26 -!- promag_ [~promag@bl22-246-44.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 03:49 -!- Chris_Stewart_5 [~chris@unaffiliated/chris-stewart-5/x-3612383] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 03:50 -!- Guyver2 [AdiIRC@guyver2.xs4all.nl] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 04:09 -!- queip [~queip@unaffiliated/rezurus] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:10 -!- rafalcpp [~racalcppp@84-10-11-234.static.chello.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 04:19 -!- rafalcpp [~racalcppp@84-10-11-234.static.chello.pl] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 04:20 -!- bitcoin-git [~bitcoin-g@x0f.org] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 04:20 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/1a8a5ede9fc3...b4fc5257b7dc 04:20 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 3f5ad62 riordant: Enable PID file creation on Windows 04:20 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master b4fc525 Wladimir J. van der Laan: Merge #15456: Enable PID file creation on WIN 04:20 -!- bitcoin-git [~bitcoin-g@x0f.org] has left #bitcoin-core-dev [] 04:21 -!- bitcoin-git [~bitcoin-g@x0f.org] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 04:21 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj merged pull request #15456: Enable PID file creation on WIN (master...master) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/15456 04:21 -!- bitcoin-git [~bitcoin-g@x0f.org] has left #bitcoin-core-dev [] 04:23 -!- queip [~queip@unaffiliated/rezurus] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 04:51 -!- Chris_Stewart_5 [~chris@unaffiliated/chris-stewart-5/x-3612383] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:55 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@unaffiliated/aaronvanw] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 05:05 -!- Chris_Stewart_5 [~chris@unaffiliated/chris-stewart-5/x-3612383] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 05:06 -!- spaced0ut [~spaced0ut@unaffiliated/spaced0ut] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 05:19 -!- Deinogalerix21 [~Deinogale@89.238.176.150] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 05:22 -!- Guyver2 [AdiIRC@guyver2.xs4all.nl] has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 05:24 < provoostenator> Is there a SegWit v1 proposal on the bitcoin-dev list or elsewhere that I just managed to overlook? I though gmaxwell referred to that a few days ago in the context of SIGHASH_NO_INPUT_FULL_DISCLAIMER 05:25 -!- mmgen [~mmgen@gateway/tor-sasl/mmgen] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 05:26 < luke-jr> provoostenator: I sent one like a year ago, but I think there's been more recent work since (possibly unrelated?) 05:27 -!- bitcoin-git [~bitcoin-g@x0f.org] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 05:27 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] qingqingzijjin opened pull request #15472: Create Bitcoin (master...patch-1) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/15472 05:27 -!- bitcoin-git [~bitcoin-g@x0f.org] has left #bitcoin-core-dev [] 05:27 < provoostenator> luke-jr: I thought there was something more recent, with some Schnorr related things already dropped from the proposal. 05:27 -!- bitcoin-git [~bitcoin-g@x0f.org] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 05:27 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake closed pull request #15472: Create Bitcoin (master...patch-1) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/15472 05:27 < luke-jr> yeah, gmaxwell was talking about it the other day, but not sure the best/recent source for it 05:27 -!- bitcoin-git [~bitcoin-g@x0f.org] has left #bitcoin-core-dev [] 05:29 < luke-jr> I recall seeing a blog somewhere about it 05:29 < luke-jr> but blockstream's blog is killing my browser, so not sure if that's where 05:30 < provoostenator> Ok, but no BIP yet... or you'd know about it :-) 05:32 < luke-jr> no number assigned yet, but that means relatively little 05:34 -!- promag [~promag@bl6-24-70.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:40 -!- Chris_Stewart_5 [~chris@unaffiliated/chris-stewart-5/x-3612383] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 05:49 -!- Deinogalerix21 [~Deinogale@89.238.176.150] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.4] 06:00 -!- DeanWeen [~dean@gateway/tor-sasl/deanguss] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 06:00 -!- Dean_Guss [~dean@gateway/tor-sasl/deanguss] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:14 < provoostenator> Re #15471 let's make sure the current commit is ACKable, but otherwise hold off until the last minute if anyone has a better PR? 06:14 < gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/15471 | rpc/gui: Remove Unknown block versions being mined warning by laanwj · Pull Request #15471 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub 06:16 < luke-jr> provoostenator: it seems to completely fly in the face of supposed principles of merging; the protocol change has near zero community support 06:18 < provoostenator> luke-jr: that PR simply drops the warning entirely (option 2 in my list), I think you're confusing it with #13972 (option 3 in my list) 06:18 < gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/13972 | Remove 16 bits from versionbits signalling system by btcdrak · Pull Request #13972 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub 06:21 -!- bitcoin-git [~bitcoin-g@x0f.org] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 06:21 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke opened pull request #15473: bench: Benchmark MempoolToJSON (master...Mf1902-benchRpcMempool) 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seconds] 07:15 -!- bitcoin-git [~bitcoin-g@x0f.org] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 07:15 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] promag opened pull request #15474: rest/rpc: Make mempoolinfo atomic (master...2019-02-atomic-mempoolinfo) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/15474 07:15 -!- bitcoin-git [~bitcoin-g@x0f.org] has left #bitcoin-core-dev [] 07:17 -!- setpill [~setpill@unaffiliated/setpill] has quit [Quit: o/] 07:32 -!- leishman [~leishman@2604:5500:c225:c500:31aa:b00:538e:1130] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 07:34 -!- Guyver2 [AdiIRC@guyver2.xs4all.nl] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 07:34 -!- promag_ [~promag@bl22-246-44.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 07:51 -!- captjakk [~captjakk@63-238-229-186.dia.static.qwest.net] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 07:55 -!- _flow_ [~none@salem.informatik.uni-erlangen.de] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 07:58 -!- Chris_Stewart_5 [~chris@unaffiliated/chris-stewart-5/x-3612383] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 07:59 -!- jb55 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Alerts are currently triggered when 50 out of 100 recent blocks have any unexpected bit set, even if it's a different bit in each of those blocks. 10:40 < luke-jr> hmm, that's weird. fixing that does make sense 10:40 < provoostenator> If we change that to tracking each bit individually, then there wouuld have been no alerts expect for SegWit and BIP91. 10:40 < luke-jr> gotta run, bbiab 10:40 < sipa> we already track each bit individually 10:40 < provoostenator> sipa: the activation logic does, the alert logic doesn't 10:40 < sipa> yes we do 10:41 < sipa> (separate from the warning logic under discussio nnow) 10:42 < sipa> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/15471/files#diff-24efdb00bfbe56b140fb006b562cc70bR2244 10:42 < provoostenator> on master nUpgraded tracks whether we send an alert https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/blob/master/src/validation.cpp#L2262 10:43 < provoostenator> We check if each block has an unexpected value. Any unexpected value. 10:43 < sipa> yes, i know 10:43 < sipa> i'm saying there is also another warning mechanism which does work per bit 10:43 < provoostenator> Ah yes, the one that warns some new rule is active. 10:43 < provoostenator> But that's not the one causing all the false positive alerts afaik. 10:43 -!- schmidty [~schmidty@unaffiliated/schmidty] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:44 < sipa> correct 10:45 -!- schmidty [~schmidty@unaffiliated/schmidty] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 10:47 < provoostenator> The nUpgraded warning says "It's possible unknown rules are in effect", but that's only possible if a lower threshold or some other upgrade mechanism than BIP9 is introduced. 10:50 -!- schmidty [~schmidty@unaffiliated/schmidty] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 10:51 < provoostenator> Or if a future soft fork makes another bit permanent. 10:53 -!- fabianfabian [~fabianfab@D9656CCE.cm-27.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 10:54 -!- dqx_ [~dqx@unaffiliated/dqx] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 10:55 < sipa> ? 10:57 -!- schmidty [~schmidty@unaffiliated/schmidty] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 11:00 -!- dqx_ [~dqx@unaffiliated/dqx] has quit [Quit: .] 11:03 < provoostenator> sipa: see latest comment on PR: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/15471#issuecomment-467137377 11:04 < sipa> yes, agree with that 11:06 -!- spaced0ut [~spaced0ut@unaffiliated/spaced0ut] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:08 < MarcoFalke> Is there any chance that there will be a softfork deployed not via BIP9? 11:09 < MarcoFalke> I doubt it and I think the changes in #15471 are pretty minimal to get into 0.18.0 as a bugfix 11:09 < gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/15471 | rpc/gui: Remove Unknown block versions being mined warning by laanwj · Pull Request #15471 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub 11:09 < wumpus> I also have the feeling this whole thing is overblown 11:10 < wumpus> this warning is actively dangerous to users, and it would be good to disable it for 0.18, even if a better approach will be added later 11:13 < MarcoFalke> agree 11:16 < provoostenator> Yeah, the per bit counting is easier said than done. 11:17 < sipa> I don't think it's hard, but i agree it's probably too much for 0.18 at this point 11:18 < wumpus> I also wonder how much it matters, it's not that BIP9 is reliable anymore for those bits 11:20 -!- jungly [~quassel@79.8.200.97] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:20 < provoostenator> It's hard to get a good signal to noise ratio to detect potential soft forks that could be activated soon. 11:25 < adiabat> maybe if you see a bunch of non-standard txs? also gameable but at some cost to miners 11:26 < adiabat> though I guess that's after the fact, not for something that will be activated soon 11:26 < wumpus> in *practice* it's easy because we know what bits the miners have chosen to use 11:48 -!- bitcoin-git [~bitcoin-g@x0f.org] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 11:48 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke opened pull request #15477: doc: Remove misleading hint in getrawtransaction (master...Mf1902-rpcRawDocFix) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/15477 11:48 -!- bitcoin-git [~bitcoin-g@x0f.org] has left #bitcoin-core-dev [] 11:50 -!- bitcoin-git [~bitcoin-g@x0f.org] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 11:50 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] promag opened pull request #15478: wip: gui: Refactor open wallet activity (master...2019-02-refactor-open-wallet) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/15478 11:50 -!- bitcoin-git [~bitcoin-g@x0f.org] has left #bitcoin-core-dev [] 11:51 -!- promag [~promag@83.223.234.240] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:53 -!- ap4lmtree [ap4lmtree@unaffiliated/ap4lmtree] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:56 -!- ap4lmtree [ap4lmtree@unaffiliated/ap4lmtree] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 12:02 -!- leishman [~leishman@2604:5500:c225:c500:31aa:b00:538e:1130] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:02 -!- leishman [~leishman@2604:5500:c225:c500:31aa:b00:538e:1130] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 12:06 -!- bitcoin-git [~bitcoin-g@x0f.org] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 12:06 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke opened pull request #15479: test: Add .style.yapf (master...Mf1902-testYapf) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/15479 12:06 -!- bitcoin-git [~bitcoin-g@x0f.org] has left #bitcoin-core-dev [] 12:08 -!- EagleTM [~EagleTM@unaffiliated/eagletm] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 12:10 < gmaxwell> wumpus: well also because they only want a couple bits, so if we say "use bits x,y,z" they'll probably use them. 12:15 < MarcoFalke> BIP320 could make sense to make it explicit, but that can be done for 0.19 or not at all 12:32 -!- dviola [~diego@unaffiliated/dviola] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 12:45 -!- Zenton [~user@unaffiliated/vicenteh] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 12:48 -!- jarthur [~jarthur@2605:6000:1019:41ab:8046:55f3:ad2d:e68a] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 12:50 < dongcarl> For BIP32, is the identifier the Hash160 of the compressed or uncompressed serialization of the ECDSA public key? 12:50 -!- timothy [~tredaelli@redhat/timothy] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 12:52 -!- IGHOR [~quassel@93.178.216.72] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:53 -!- IGHOR [~quassel@93.178.216.72] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 12:54 -!- schmidty [~schmidty@unaffiliated/schmidty] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:55 -!- schmidty [~schmidty@unaffiliated/schmidty] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 12:56 < sipa> dongcarl: it's hash160 of the public key. from bitcoin's perspective, compressed and uncompressed public keys are distinct 12:56 -!- fabianfabian [~fabianfab@D9656CCE.cm-27.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com] 12:56 < sipa> and bip32 only supports compressed keys, iirc 12:57 < sipa> oh, that's not explicitly spelled out it seems 12:57 < dongcarl> Oh boy 12:58 -!- leishman [~leishman@2604:5500:c225:c500:31aa:b00:538e:1130] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:59 < sipa> in any case, if the key is compressed, use the compressed serialization - otherwise use the uncompressed one :) 13:00 < sipa> but xpub serializations always uses compressed... so integrating bip32 with uncompressed keys seems hard in any case 13:00 -!- schmidty [~schmidty@unaffiliated/schmidty] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:01 < dongcarl> What does Core do? 13:01 -!- schmidty [~schmidty@104-7-216-111.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 13:01 -!- schmidty [~schmidty@104-7-216-111.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Changing host] 13:01 -!- schmidty [~schmidty@unaffiliated/schmidty] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 13:02 < sipa> bip32 derived keys are always compressed 13:03 < dongcarl> Okay, thanks. 13:16 -!- leishman [~leishman@2604:5500:c225:c500:31aa:b00:538e:1130] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 13:17 -!- elichai2 [uid212594@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-hrwoilqvmdjlfdfw] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 13:21 -!- promag [~promag@83.223.234.240] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 13:32 < luke-jr> FWIW, for now I made a Twitter poll on BIP 320 since I don't know if we have a better way to assess community support: https://twitter.com/LukeDashjr/status/1100102745951006720 13:35 -!- leishman [~leishman@2604:5500:c225:c500:31aa:b00:538e:1130] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 13:43 -!- leishman [~leishman@2604:5500:c225:c500:31aa:b00:538e:1130] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 13:44 -!- promag [~promag@83.223.234.240] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:44 -!- promag [~promag@83.223.234.240] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 13:49 -!- promag [~promag@83.223.234.240] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 13:49 -!- leishman [~leishman@2604:5500:c225:c500:31aa:b00:538e:1130] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 13:58 -!- Dean_Guss [~dean@gateway/tor-sasl/deanguss] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 13:58 -!- DeanWeen [~dean@gateway/tor-sasl/deanguss] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:58 -!- bashco [~bashco@unaffiliated/bashco] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 13:59 -!- bashco [~bashco@188.ip-92-222-72.eu] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 13:59 -!- schmidty [~schmidty@unaffiliated/schmidty] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:00 -!- mmgen [~mmgen@gateway/tor-sasl/mmgen] has quit [Quit: (https://github.com/mmgen) leaving] 14:09 -!- achow101 [~achow101@unaffiliated/achow101] has quit [Quit: ZNC 1.7.0+deb0+xenial1 - https://znc.in] 14:09 -!- Klox [~Klox@c-73-22-66-195.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:10 -!- achow101 [~achow101@unaffiliated/achow101] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 14:10 -!- victorSN [~victorSN@unaffiliated/victorsn] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:10 -!- Skirmant [~Skirmant@78-62-14-181.static.zebra.lt] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 14:10 -!- Klox [~Klox@c-73-22-66-195.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 14:10 -!- hebasto [~hebasto@95.164.65.194] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:11 -!- victorSN [~victorSN@unaffiliated/victorsn] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 14:11 -!- lnostdal [~lnostdal@77.70.119.51] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 14:14 -!- lnostdal [~lnostdal@77.70.119.51] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 14:14 -!- spinza [~spin@155.93.246.187] has quit [Quit: Coyote finally caught up with me...] 14:16 -!- schmidty [~schmidty@unaffiliated/schmidty] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 14:17 -!- timothy [~tredaelli@redhat/timothy] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 14:17 -!- timothy [~tredaelli@redhat/timothy] has quit [Client Quit] 14:18 -!- dviola [~diego@unaffiliated/dviola] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.4] 14:21 -!- schmidty [~schmidty@unaffiliated/schmidty] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 14:27 -!- leishman [~leishman@2604:5500:c225:c500:31aa:b00:538e:1130] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 14:29 -!- spinza [~spin@155.93.246.187] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 14:32 -!- leishman [~leishman@2604:5500:c225:c500:31aa:b00:538e:1130] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 14:42 -!- Dean_Guss [~dean@gateway/tor-sasl/deanguss] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:48 -!- Emzy [~quassel@unaffiliated/emzy] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 14:50 -!- sgeisler [~quassel@x8d1ee20a.agdsn.tu-dresden.de] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 14:54 -!- emzy [~quassel@raspberry.emzy.de] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 14:54 -!- promag [~promag@83.223.235.6] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 14:55 -!- emzy [~quassel@raspberry.emzy.de] has quit [Changing host] 14:55 -!- emzy [~quassel@unaffiliated/emzy] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 14:57 -!- promag_ [~promag@bl22-246-44.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 15:00 -!- promag [~promag@83.223.235.6] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 15:02 -!- schmidty [~schmidty@unaffiliated/schmidty] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 15:07 -!- JackH [~laptop@host81-155-233-158.range81-155.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:07 -!- schmidty [~schmidty@unaffiliated/schmidty] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 15:07 -!- Guyver2 [AdiIRC@guyver2.xs4all.nl] has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! 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18:23 < gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/15482 | Implement BIPXXXs new softfork rules (The Great Consensus Cleanup) by TheBlueMatt · Pull Request #15482 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub 18:36 < sipa> luke-jr: the witness-stripped size is what matters for the merkle tree vulnerability 18:37 < luke-jr> sipa: only in one merkle tree, though? 18:39 < luke-jr> I guess <64 bytes isn't possible with any sensible output anyway, even if witness is stripped 18:44 < luke-jr> anyway, just a topic to cover in the rationale IMO 18:44 < kanzure> just fyi, bitcoin-dev mailing list is temporarily broken 18:44 < kanzure> i assume temporarily. 18:44 < sipa> luke-jr: agree 18:49 -!- EagleTM [~EagleTM@unaffiliated/eagletm] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:54 -!- schmidty [~schmidty@unaffiliated/schmidty] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 18:59 -!- schmidty [~schmidty@unaffiliated/schmidty] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 19:02 -!- promag [~promag@bl22-246-44.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 19:06 -!- promag [~promag@bl22-246-44.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 19:12 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@unaffiliated/aaronvanw] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:32 -!- droark [~droark@c-24-21-203-195.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 19:33 -!- petertodd [~pete@ec2-52-5-185-120.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has quit [Quit: leaving] 19:37 -!- schmidty [~schmidty@unaffiliated/schmidty] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 19:42 -!- schmidty [~schmidty@unaffiliated/schmidty] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 19:43 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@unaffiliated/aaronvanw] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 19:47 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@unaffiliated/aaronvanw] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 20:13 -!- owowo [~ovovo@unaffiliated/ovovo] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20:31 -!- fanquake [~fanquake@unaffiliated/fanquake] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 20:31 < fanquake> wumpus/sipa can you block 3ggerman29 from GH. They are spamming addresses/comments. 20:34 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@unaffiliated/aaronvanw] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 20:40 < sipa> give me an irc command to run 20:54 < fanquake> sipa pretty sure you'll have to go to GitHub, don't think we've got a ban bot 20:54 < sipa> oh! 20:55 < sipa> sorry, i thought you meant someone spamming on irc 20:55 < sipa> can't do so right now 20:58 -!- fanquake [~fanquake@unaffiliated/fanquake] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:59 -!- fanquake [~fanquake@unaffiliated/fanquake] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 21:00 -!- fanquake [~fanquake@unaffiliated/fanquake] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:00 -!- fanquake [~fanquake@unaffiliated/fanquake] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 21:01 < luke-jr> lol 21:01 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@unaffiliated/aaronvanw] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 21:03 -!- schmidty [~schmidty@unaffiliated/schmidty] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 21:07 -!- schmidty [~schmidty@unaffiliated/schmidty] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 21:08 -!- ghost43 [~daer@gateway/tor-sasl/daer] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:08 -!- ghost43 [~daer@gateway/tor-sasl/daer] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 21:08 < fanquake> sipa no worries 21:20 -!- ovovo [~ovovo@unaffiliated/ovovo] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 21:32 -!- schmidty [~schmidty@unaffiliated/schmidty] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 21:34 -!- fanquake [~fanquake@unaffiliated/fanquake] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:37 -!- schmidty [~schmidty@unaffiliated/schmidty] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 21:39 -!- fanquake [~fanquake@unaffiliated/fanquake] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 21:40 -!- bashco [~bashco@188.ip-92-222-72.eu] has quit [Changing host] 21:40 -!- bashco [~bashco@unaffiliated/bashco] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 21:41 < BlueMatt> luke-jr: wait, I'm confused, you want me to add rationale for why we care only about non-witness size and why we dont have similar concerns in wtxid merkle tree? 21:49 -!- fanquake [~fanquake@unaffiliated/fanquake] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:50 -!- fanquake [~fanquake@unaffiliated/fanquake] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 21:59 -!- _flow_ [~none@salem.informatik.uni-erlangen.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 21:59 -!- jarthur [~jarthur@2605:6000:1019:41ab:8046:55f3:ad2d:e68a] has quit [] 22:08 < luke-jr> BlueMatt: no.. why we don't ONLY protect the witness tree, basically 22:08 < luke-jr> (and probably good to mention why it doesn't matter?) 22:38 -!- fanquake [~fanquake@unaffiliated/fanquake] has quit [] 22:58 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@unaffiliated/aaronvanw] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 23:08 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@unaffiliated/aaronvanw] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 23:18 -!- promag [~promag@bl22-246-44.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 23:18 -!- promag [~promag@bl22-246-44.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:19 -!- promag [~promag@bl22-246-44.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 23:23 -!- promag [~promag@bl22-246-44.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 23:28 -!- Muoi [8984d489@gateway/web/freenode/ip.137.132.212.137] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 23:31 < Muoi> I run a Bitcoin node, there is no IP inserted to tried table since December, is this a problem? 23:31 < gmaxwell> Muoi: thats interesting. it's supposed to generate feeler connections, are you using -connect? 23:32 < Muoi> No, I run a default node, with only some additional customized logging messages. 23:32 < gmaxwell> current version? 23:32 < Muoi> There is no feeler connection was made since 18 Dec 2018 23:32 < Muoi> 0.17.0 23:32 < gmaxwell> Muoi: how many connections do you have up? 23:33 < Muoi> Outgoing connections are always 8 or 9. 23:33 < Muoi> "Potential stale tip detected, will try using extra outbound peer" was printed out frequently also 23:33 -!- schmidty [~schmidty@unaffiliated/schmidty] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 23:33 < gmaxwell> that sounds like you're actually deadlocked. 23:33 < Muoi> 6-12 times per day 23:33 < gmaxwell> Muoi: what is your most recent block? 23:34 < Muoi> ATM 564704 23:34 < gmaxwell> Thats currentish. 23:35 < Muoi> yes, stale tip happens, but not every time the node checks, I think. 23:35 < Muoi> For example, on 25 Feb 2019: 23:35 < Muoi> 2019-02-25T06:36:35Z Potential stale tip detected, will try using extra outbound peer (last tip update: 1849 seconds ago) 2019-02-25T09:03:36Z Potential stale tip detected, will try using extra outbound peer (last tip update: 2138 seconds ago) 2019-02-25T09:14:06Z Potential stale tip detected, will try using extra outbound peer (last tip update: 2768 seconds ago) 2019-02-25T11:20:08Z Potential stale tip detected, will try us 23:35 < gmaxwell> well that will happen from time to time normally (when blocks are far apart) so it's not shocking but 12 times per day sounds like too much. 23:36 < Muoi> Yep, I agree. 23:36 < Muoi> But isn't that feeler connections should still happen? 23:37 < gmaxwell> it should, indeed. it shoulds like a bug. 23:38 -!- schmidty [~schmidty@unaffiliated/schmidty] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 23:38 < Muoi> It happens with my another node also. But after I reboot the node, it starts having feeler connections again. 23:39 < Muoi> Seems like the SetTryNewOutboundPeer() is incorrectly set somewhere. 23:40 < gmaxwell> My first guess would be to look for interactions with the stale tip logic. 23:48 < luke-jr> has the node been restarted since this began happening? 23:49 < Muoi> No, I have been running it non-stop. To clarify more, I run few nodes actually. Some of them have this problem. 23:49 < Muoi> I restart only one node and problem is gone, so I wouldn't want to do it on other nodes. 23:51 < Muoi> To trigger feeler connection, tip must not be stale and the number of outgoing connections must be >=8, right? 23:51 < Muoi> But stale tip are detected few times per day, and number of outbound conn. is always 8. But no feeler connection. 23:51 < Muoi> I have looked at the stale tip logic in the last 12 hours, couldn't figure it out so I brought the problem here. 23:54 -!- EagleTM [~EagleTM@unaffiliated/eagletm] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 23:57 -!- ovovo is now known as owowo --- Log closed Tue Feb 26 00:00:01 2019