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01:18 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] Deano1167 opened pull request #15535: Dander (0.14...master) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/15535
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01:19 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake closed pull request #15535: Dander (0.14...master) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/15535
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01:43 < rafalcpp> regarding the attacks on RPC (replay message, or replace body of message) is there a plan how to solve it?
01:46 < luke-jr> rafalcpp: just don't let anyone get your password..
01:46 < luke-jr> or access your RPC
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03:52 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/14023c966c51...4b57b7f0f0c3
03:52 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master fad76e7 MarcoFalke: doc: Remove pr release notes file in wrong dir
03:52 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 4b57b7f Wladimir J. van der Laan: Merge #15527: doc: Remove pr release notes file in wrong dir
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03:52 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 1 commit to 0.18: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/6a178e52618d...71ac4ebe4893
03:52 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/0.18 71ac4eb MarcoFalke: doc: Remove pr release notes file in wrong dir
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03:53 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj merged pull request #15527: doc: Remove pr release notes file in wrong dir (master...1903-docRelPr) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/15527
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03:54 < jonasschnelli> hmmm.... looks like the linux build is not deterministic: https://bitcointools.jonasschnelli.ch/data/builds/1007/bitcoin-linux-0.18-build.assert
03:54 < jonasschnelli> diverges from wumpus
03:54 < jonasschnelli> +signatures
03:55 < jonasschnelli> Only arm64 and riscv though
03:55 < wumpus> achow101's was divergent too, maybe it matches his ?
03:56 < jonasschnelli> Oh. We merged divergent signaturs... :/
03:56 < jonasschnelli> fanquakes is not identical to yours wumpus but to mine
03:57 < fanquake> Yea, mine match achows
03:57 < wumpus> gitian sigs should always be merged, *especially* if they don't match, it's evidence
03:57 < jonasschnelli> fair point
03:57 < wumpus> okay so only mine are different? this is interesting
03:58 < fanquake> I thought maybe this bug was back.. https://github.com/fanquake/core-review/blob/master/determinism.md#ld64-threading
03:59 < wumpus> if it's that then if I build a few more times I should get different outputs?
03:59 < wumpus> trying
04:00 < fanquake> it'd be interesting if we'd somehow reintroduced that. More interesting given it's constrained to riscv and aarch64
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04:01 < wumpus> I'm going to try if it's a race condition by trying to build a few times, if not I'd like to compare executables
04:02 < fanquake> wumpus achow's build results are up here: https://github.com/achow101/bitcoin/releases/tag/v0.18.0rc1. I can upload mine as well if needed
04:03 < wumpus> thanks! if they're the same it's not necessary, if you get *yet another* output, well :)
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04:12 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/4b57b7f0f0c3...3800ca606896
04:12 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 3eac2d5 Alistair Mann: docs: add "sections" info to example bitcoin.conf
04:12 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 3800ca6 Wladimir J. van der Laan: Merge #15513: docs: add "sections" info to example bitcoin.conf
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04:13 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj merged pull request #15513: docs: add "sections" info to example bitcoin.conf (master...rebase-fixup-15387) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/15513
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04:14  * wumpus confused by #15521, I think what ever shouldbe the solution to this, it's not doing a re-checkout of .
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04:50 < rafalcpp> is there any reason for RPC to use http Basic Auth header, instead of adding the password as request parameter (so, in body)?
04:52 < luke-jr> rafalcpp: the latter would be ugly
04:55 < jonasschnelli> rafalcpp: both are kinda ugly...
04:55 < jonasschnelli> But the authentication does not protect from attackers on system level and exposing RPC to the internet is not recommended
04:56 < rafalcpp> the idea would be {"method":"getblockchaininfo","params":[],"id":1,"hmac-tag":"34d3f35460166cc84cc1b51a61abe9c5a9994558b777125969aed8d9d0c29588","hmac-nonce":"eaaa1578252fc8de8fe115e5802e999a67353bce", "hmac-clock":"1551790542"}
04:56 < luke-jr> rafalcpp: that violates the JSON-RPC protocol I'm pretty sure..
04:56 < jonasschnelli> I once proposed an ecc based authentication with no replay protection: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/6604
04:57 < jonasschnelli> rafalcpp: if you need better authentication, consider adding a reverse proxy (Apache / Nginx), add TLS and cert based user authentication (on top of Cores HTTP BASIC AUTH)
04:58 < rafalcpp> jonasschnelli: yeah Im proposing the reverse, no DH/pubkey but full replay protection.  of course, we could combine both methods and then pin to pubkey in server and in client
04:58 < jonasschnelli> rafalcpp: I think there is no reason to implement that in core...
04:58 < jonasschnelli> we don't want that people expose it to the internet,... 
04:58 < rafalcpp> I will include motivation in BIP
04:58 < jonasschnelli> we would suddenly become maintainer of a http server and it's pitfalls
04:58 < rafalcpp> (it is about localhost, not about internet)
04:58 < jonasschnelli> Just use existing authentication layer and reverse proxy to it
04:58 < luke-jr> rafalcpp: this is not a BIPable topic
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05:01 < jonasschnelli> weak agree with luke-jr. The RPC layer is very core specific
05:01 < rafalcpp> * in the RFC :)
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05:26 < wumpus> tried rebuilding; got the same hash for risc-v and aarch64, now trying with wiped cache
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06:14 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke pushed 7 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/3800ca606896...a74d588f2154
06:14 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master fa6bf21 MarcoFalke: scripted-diff: test: Use py3.5 bytes::hex() method
06:14 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master fab5a1e MarcoFalke: build: Require python 3.5
06:14 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master fa0e65b MarcoFalke: scripted-diff: test: Remove brackets after assert
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06:15 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke merged pull request #14954: build: Require python 3.5 (master...Mf1811-buildPython3) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/14954
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06:21 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/a74d588f2154...d8a62db8bf68
06:21 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 4d4e4c6 Russell Yanofsky: Suggested interfaces::Chain cleanups from #15288
06:21 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master d8a62db MarcoFalke: Merge #15531: Suggested interfaces::Chain cleanups from #15288
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06:22 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke merged pull request #15531: Suggested interfaces::Chain cleanups from #15288 (master...pr/wclean2) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/15531
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06:35 < jonasschnelli> Looks like ChaCha20Poly1305 is pretty fast on arm64(aarch64)
06:35 < jonasschnelli> CHACHA20_1MB, 5, 340, 13.3704, 0.00772624, 0.00806671, 0.00775259
06:35 < jonasschnelli> CHACHA20_256BYTES, 5, 250000, 2.41802, 1.92206e-06, 1.95887e-06, 1.92964e-06
06:35 < jonasschnelli> CHACHA20_64BYTES, 5, 500000, 1.28993, 5.07247e-07, 5.26875e-07, 5.14802e-07
06:35 < jonasschnelli> HASH_1MB, 5, 340, 22.5945, 0.0128931, 0.0135617, 0.0132931
06:35 < jonasschnelli> HASH_256BYTES, 5, 250000, 6.84513, 5.43544e-06, 5.54961e-06, 5.45136e-06
06:35 < jonasschnelli> HASH_64BYTES, 5, 500000, 7.47419, 2.94502e-06, 3.04259e-06, 2.99531e-06
06:35 < jonasschnelli> POLY1305_1MB, 5, 340, 10.2145, 0.00591661, 0.00609435, 0.00601109
06:35 < jonasschnelli> POLY1305_256BYTES, 5, 250000, 1.88446, 1.48188e-06, 1.52889e-06, 1.52119e-06
06:35 < jonasschnelli> POLY1305_64BYTES, 5, 500000, 1.08101, 4.25452e-07, 4.43012e-07, 4.29685e-07
06:35 < jonasschnelli> ^ sipa gmaxwell 
06:36 < jonasschnelli> results are from a RK3328 Quad-Core ARM Cortex A53 64-Bit
06:37 < jonasschnelli> (no SHA2 hardware acceleration) 
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06:39 < jonasschnelli> Which shows a tendency that something like BIP151 may speed up processing performance on ARM... especially small packets
06:40 < jonasschnelli> ~72MB/s
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06:41 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/d8a62db8bf68...4952a953585e
06:41 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 21be609 Glenn Willen: In lint-format-strings, open files sequentially
06:41 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 4952a95 MarcoFalke: Merge #15534: [test] lint-format-strings: open files sequentially (fix for...
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06:42 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke merged pull request #15534: [test] lint-format-strings: open files sequentially (fix for OS X) (master...feature-fix-lint-osx) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/15534
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07:19 < didoerpl> hey
07:20 < didoerpl> when will zksnarks be implemented for privacy
07:20 < didoerpl> why still no privacy 
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08:14 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] instagibbs opened pull request #15538: wallet_bumpfee.py: Make sure coin selection produces change (master...bumpfee_change_test) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/15538
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09:10 < provoostenator> Gitian woes: bin/gbuild:21:in `system!': failed to run on-target setarch x86_64 bash -x < var/build-script > var/build.log 2>&1 (RuntimeError)
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09:11 < provoostenator> Last line in build.log: checking for BSD- or MS-compatible name lister (nm)... nm
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09:11 < provoostenator> Ah, out of disk space :-)
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09:40 < wumpus> okay, after cleaning the cache I still get the same riscv/aarch64 output
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11:00 < MarcoFalke> wumpus: Mind to upload the binaries?
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11:05 < MarcoFalke> or anyone else who has matching hashes
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11:31 < jonasschnelli> gmaxwell: about the message histogram: I logged about 5h, ~50% of the messages are invs while ~90% of the traffic is due to the 5% block messages
11:31 < jonasschnelli> The median message size is 103 bytes (only the payload)
11:33 < jonasschnelli> (and thats sending)
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11:37 < jonasschnelli> receiving: 34% invs, 39% tx, median message size: 31 bytes
11:38 < jonasschnelli> 88% of inbound traffic is inv/tx (73% of all messages), median inv size: 109, median tx size: 325
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11:49 < gmaxwell> the 5% block messages, also then means these numbers aren't representative for all peers (they're from your node helping IBDing peers, and most nodes on the network don't participate in that).
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11:50 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke closed pull request #8471: Key origin metadata, with HD wallet support (master...keyorigin_hd) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/8471
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12:43 < mmgen> gmaxwell: is this a permanent ban from #bitcoin, greg?  Just asking.  To be honest, I'm astounded.  As a long-time participant here, I wasn't expecting this
12:43 < mmgen> gmaxwell: trying to fathom the motive
12:46 < gmaxwell> You are only in there continually promoting your "key generator tool" that sets off a multiple red flags, it would be difficult for it to look more like malware if you were trying.
12:46 < gmaxwell> It's not welcome in there.
12:47 < mmgen> gmaxwell: it's a complete wallet and cold storage system, not a key-generating tool
12:47 < mmgen> a 5-year old project
12:49 < mmgen> and I don't see the "continual promotion".  I mention it in response to peoples' queries, that's all
12:51 <@gwillen> mmgen: just as a devil's advocate here, a popular thing for people to do is take over projects with a lot of history and inject malware
12:51 <@gwillen> so that's not totally dispositive as to intent
12:52 <@gwillen> (note that I only have an @ here for spam-fighting reasons, I am not in charge here and defer to gmaxwell on all matters of relevance)
12:52 <@gwillen> (or to Appropriate Authorities)
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12:53 <@gwillen> also, in general #bitcoin has a lot of people who are a danger to themselves in terms of running whatever software is in front of them
12:53 <@gwillen> and risking their coins in the process
12:53 <@gwillen> so there has to be a pretty high bar in there in general
12:54 <@gwillen> (this is why e.g. most links are looked on with extreme suspicion)
12:54 < mmgen> gwillen: ok
12:55 <@gwillen> FWIW I think your tool looks cool, although I am skeptical that your alternative to BIP32 is an improvement but I'd be interested to hear about the motivation behind it (but not in this channel, perhaps #bitcoin-dev would accept such a conversation)
12:55 <@gwillen> (I'm not sure where the best place is)
12:55 < mmgen> gwillen: thanks for the interest
12:55 < gmaxwell> My logs show mmgen first joined #bitcoin on feb 23rd and in that time he his linked his tool 35 times.
12:56 < mmgen> s/tool/wallet/
12:56 < mmgen> and I've been here much longer than that
12:57 < mmgen> for well over a year
12:57 < gmaxwell> In any case, this discussion is offtopic here.
12:58 < mmgen> well if i'm banned on #bitcoin, how can I get unbanned?
12:58 < mmgen> that's the only reason I'm discussing it here
12:59 < mmgen> my nick was registered around July 2017, by the way
13:01 < mmgen> gwillen: my concern with bip32 is that is uses ecc, which could be a problem after the advent of quantum computing
13:02 < mmgen> gwillen: that's why my key-derivation scheme is hash-based
13:05 < gmaxwell> mmgen: hardend bip32 is a hash derrived private key, you are spreading disinformation claiming that it has any different security properties.
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13:08 < mmgen> gmaxwell: but it uses ec as well
13:09 < sipa> mmgen: please take this elsewhere
13:09 < sipa> (and others)
13:09 < booyah> mmgen: #bitcoin-bans is about discussing bans
13:09 < mmgen> sipa: well, I'd be happy to take it to #bitcoin, but gmaxwell has banned me there, for promoting "snake oil"
13:10 < sipa> mmgen: sorry to hear that, but not my problem. it's completely off topic here
13:10 < mmgen> booyah: thanks for the pointer
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16:16 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke closed pull request #15521: Fixed some times can not remove "$SUFFIX-dirty" on version number cor… (master...master) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/15521
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16:50 < kanzure> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/irc/bitcoin/bitcoin-dev/bitcoin-dev-mailing-list-archive-2019-03-05.zip
16:50 < kanzure> https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2019-March/016700.html
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16:54 < kanzure> anything sent during march needs t obe re-sent
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21:53 < wumpus> I've created a new base image, am getting different hashes for aarch64/riscv64 now but still not ones that match the others
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22:12 < meshcollider> wumpus: what distro are you on
22:16 < wumpus> debian 9.6, a VM I've been using for gitian building since pretty much forever
22:18 < wumpus> I use LXC for building
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23:24 < wumpus> so there's nothing else to do besides trying to compare the binaries, will try so later today
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