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03:09 < jonasschnelli> fanquake: python3
03:10 < jonasschnelli> are you setting up a CI server?
03:10 < fanquake> jonasschnelli: yes, but 3.6, 3.7? I assume you can use something modern if setting up from scratch.
03:10 < jonasschnelli> the readme is incomplete... and I need to commit the KVM script. the NFS setup is not mentioned...
03:10 < fanquake> I may do, have just been looking at the .py script in the repo.
03:16 < fanquake> #proposedmeetingtopic Do we have any contributors that are likely to be affected by GH blocking access/functionality in certain countries.
03:18 < jonatack> fanquake: IIUC the blocking may be based on presumed nationality as well as or more than location/IP
03:20 < jonatack> good topic btw
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03:22 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] meshcollider pushed 3 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/dbf4f3f86a8f...c606e6fc53f7
03:22 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master a92d9ce Gregory Sanders: deprecate totalFee argument in bumpfee RPC call
03:22 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 2f7eb77 Jon Atack: Add RPC bumpfee totalFee deprecation test
03:22 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master c606e6f MeshCollider: Merge #15996: rpc: Deprecate totalfee argument in `bumpfee`
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03:23 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] meshcollider merged pull request #15996: rpc: Deprecate totalfee argument in `bumpfee` (master...deprecate_totalfee) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/15996
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03:29 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] meshcollider pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/c606e6fc53f7...dfb7fd60f261
03:29 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master fa4a605 MarcoFalke: Remove wallet settings from chainparams
03:29 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master dfb7fd6 MeshCollider: Merge #16402: Remove wallet settings from chainparams
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03:30 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] meshcollider merged pull request #16402: Remove wallet settings from chainparams (master...1907-walletNoChainParams) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/16402
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03:35 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] meshcollider pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/dfb7fd60f261...1139e3cb7620
03:35 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 4d94916 Russell Yanofsky: Get rid of PendingWalletTx class.
03:35 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 1139e3c MeshCollider: Merge #16415: Get rid of PendingWalletTx class
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03:36 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] meshcollider merged pull request #16415: Get rid of PendingWalletTx class (master...pr/nopend) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/16415
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03:45 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] meshcollider pushed 4 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/1139e3cb7620...febf3a856bcf
03:45 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master c88e87c Andrew Chow: Remove nFileVersion from CWalletScanState
03:46 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master b3d4f6c Andrew Chow: Log the actual wallet file version
03:46 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 35e60e7 Andrew Chow: Remove ReadVersion and WriteVersion
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03:46 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] meshcollider merged pull request #15588: Log the actual wallet file version and no longer publicly expose the "version" record (master...rm-wallet-nfileversion) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/15588
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08:09 < jb55> fanquake: they could still mail patches to the mailing list. Obviously no one does this now, but perhaps we could start making this a friendly/documented option for contributors who are blocked on GitHub.
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09:43 < emilengler> Where do I find the bitcoin-qt binary when I compile with --with-gui?
09:43 < emilengler> Mine isn't in the src/ folder
09:44 < jonatack> emilengler: src/qt/
10:21 < jb55>  
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10:26 < sipa>  
10:55 < emilengler> jonatack: Thank you
10:57 < emilengler> sipa, jb55: Were your last messages empty or is it my system making problems because it cannot encode it?
10:58 < jb55> emilengler: weird I see that entry in the logs, I never did a msg after jonatack 
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11:03 < jb55> at that time my android weechat relay client disconnected, do you use weechat relays sipa?
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11:13 < midnightmagic> re: gitian sigs; succesful build via the "old" method is not creating identical sigs. Was there an upgrading step I missed somewhere?
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11:28 < midnightmagic> v0.18.0; all Linux builds from aarch64 to arm to riscv to x86_64 are all different for mine. Already resized the base image on my own..
11:28  * midnightmagic fiddles.
11:32 < midnightmagic> ah, did ubuntu bump bionic to a new minor? well, whatever, I'll commit my sigs anyway.
11:33 < sipa> jb55: no i was just imitating your empty messagr
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11:37 < jb55> sipa: lol ok
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12:41 < midnightmagic> Windows builds still matching...  yeah I guess the environments are different..
12:42 < midnightmagic> Lotta new people doing the gitian builds.
12:43 < ariard> why descriptors don't have a height prefix to ease rescanning logic instead of asking it to the user like in importmulti ?
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13:00 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke opened pull request #16475: wallet: Enumerate walletdb keys (master...1907-walletDbKeys) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/16475
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13:02 < sipa> ariard: because not all use cades for descriptors need that
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13:03 < sipa> there are many other pieces of metadata that are relevant when importing a descriptor ot so
13:05 < sipa> like whether it is to be treated as change or not
13:05 < ariard> yes but why not a height prefix as optional, like the HD derivation one ?
13:06 < sipa> i feel like that's the wrong place to put it
13:06 < sipa> descriptors describe a set of scriptPubKeys and the information on how to spend it
13:06 < ariard> hmmm is it better to ask the user to remember the descriptor height ?
13:07 < sipa> information on how it's used feels like it belongs elsewhere
13:07 < ariard> so having a format which is a superset of descriptor to boost perfomance of rescanning logic ?
13:07 < ariard> with more prefix annotations
13:08 < sipa> maybe
13:08 < sipa> i don't really care about this :)
13:08 < ariard> got your point, but was starting to rework rescan logic, so was curious!
13:11 < ariard> it would be useful at least for lightning backend which could send back descriptors about onchain funds to the wallet instead of transactions paying to wallet addresses
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13:21 < sipa> ariard: well the importdescriptor or whatever RPC would take a descriptor + metadata
13:22 < sipa> for efficiency perhaps you want to even give more detailed height information (like only index 0..a after block X, but then also index a..b after block Y)
13:23 < sipa> or information like gap limit
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13:27 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] hebasto opened pull request #16476: Use ArgsManager::ALLOW_STRING flag explicitly (master...20190727-pr16097-new-flags) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/16476
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13:37 < ariard> sipa: yes, that would be nice optimization but IMO first step is to avoid relying on cs_main lock to do rescanning
13:38 < ariard> by caching recent blocks in a ChainServer and serving multiple ChainClient from then
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13:54 < midnightmagic> boo, OSX mismatch too. Was there an xcode update also?
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14:04 < midnightmagic> .. except it matches post-signature combining.
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14:30 < hugohn> ariard: perhaps useful to you, I'm working on adding importdescriptors RPC command on top of achow101 ' s changes. The RPC command takes timestamps as metadata to the descriptors. But I agree with sipa that that info should not be part of the descriptor language itself. Descriptor language is strictly about describing outputs whereas time-to-scan is a user preference.
14:30 < hugohn> https://github.com/achow101/bitcoin/pull/4/files#diff-522490d83dce5375d423b23886e4125eR1700 for the WIP rescanning logic, it's pretty much a mirror of importmulti (compute the lowest timestamp then scan from there)
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14:43 < ariard> hugohn: thanks, yes not necessarily part of descriptors language just something easy to backup for users and easy to parse if it has rescan range/gap
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15:37 < fanquake> midnightmagic: no macOS Toolchain updates yet
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15:56 < midnightmagic> :-/
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16:24 < fanquake> midnightmagic: It’s a WIP though, theres a PR open. Feel free to leave your thoughts.
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17:21 < midnightmagic> fanquake: I'm more curious about why my system is so different from everyone else's that my deterministic build resulted in different binaries.
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17:22 < midnightmagic> fanquake: No OS/X updates means there's something else messed up in my case, or else I'd be making OS/X bins the same as everyone else's..
17:22 < midnightmagic> So I'm deciding how much I actually care or not.
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18:01 < fanquake> midnightmagic: I didn’t realise that was for 0.18.0, not 0.18.1.. the difference should be the base image change then.
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18:10 < elichai2> midnightmagic: what do deterministic builds help in a closed source OS?
18:11 < elichai2> (sorry, off topic 😅)
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18:12 < sipa> elichai2: it's not built _on_ a closed source OS
18:12 < sipa> and yes, off topic
18:15 < elichai2> sipa: (well in the end the code is going to run *on Mac*, and if it's gitian then he probably uses a VM *on Mac* to use gitian)
18:22 < luke-jr> midnightmagic: when did you last let the base images update? before 0.18.0 matched for me, I had to let mine uupdate :/
18:22 < luke-jr> (which sadly means building pre-0.18.0 probably won't match now!)
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18:29 < fanquake> elichai2: the macOS binaries are compiled on Linux using Clang. The only somewhat closed source component is extracting the macOS SDK to build against. As it requires downloading Xcode.
18:31 < fanquake> Gitian also runs on macOS using one small patch, details here: https://github.com/fanquake/core-review/blob/master/gitian-building/README.md
18:32 < sipa> well the SDK stuff is not closed source afaik; just not freepy licensed
18:32 < sipa> *freely
18:34 < fanquake> True. Also need to signup for a Apple dev account if you want to download.
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19:29 < luke-jr> s/not freely licensed/ not licensed for distribution at all/
19:44 < elichai2> fanquake: ha. that's actuall nice. my experience with cross compilation was pretty bad in the past
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20:08 < midnightmagic> 0.18.1rc1 works so far.. so I'll say "not enough." :-) so..  yeah looks like an update. Okay fair enough. I can deal with that.
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20:13 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake opened pull request #16477: build: skip deploying plugins we dont use in macdeployqtplus (master...slim_macdeployqtplus) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/16477
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21:54 < mryandao> how can users residing in sanctioned countries raise issues on github now that github is blocking US-sacntioned countries?
22:06 < luke-jr> mryandao: why do they need to raise issues on github?
22:32 < midnightmagic> mryandao: there's good contact methods entirely outside of censored github.
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