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00:10 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/2ddf041a8d5e...c20fbb7be864
00:10 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master c279a81 Joao Barbosa: gui: Remove warning "unused variable 'wallet_model'"
00:10 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master c20fbb7 fanquake: Merge #17939: gui: Remove warning "unused variable 'wallet_model'"
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00:10 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake merged pull request #17939: gui: Remove warning "unused variable 'wallet_model'" (master...2020/01/disable-wallet-unused-variable) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/17939
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03:16 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] theStack opened pull request #17947: test: add unit test for non-standard txs with too large tx size (master...20200116-test-check-for-non-standard-txs-with-too-large-tx-size) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/17947
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03:22 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake closed pull request #17570: test: add unit test for non-standard txs w/ too large tx size (master...test_unit_IsStandardTx_tx-size) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/17570
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04:33 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake pushed 3 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/c20fbb7be864...0deba680646f
04:33 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 7d0a8f4 Hennadii Stepanov: refactor: Remove never used default parameter
04:33 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 1a53b0d Hennadii Stepanov: refactor: Simplify connection syntax
04:33 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 0deba68 fanquake: Merge #17943: qt, refactor: Remove never used default parameter
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04:34 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake merged pull request #17943: qt, refactor: Remove never used default parameter (master...20200116-message-parameter) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/17943
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05:34 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake opened pull request #17948: build: pass -fno-ident to prevent compilers emitting ident directives (master...pass_fno_ident) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/17948
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08:32 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] emilengler opened pull request #17949: doc: Remove double space in README_windows.txt (master...2020-01-remove-double-space-in-readme-win) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/17949
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08:37 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] emilengler closed pull request #17949: doc: Remove double space in README_windows.txt (master...2020-01-remove-double-space-in-readme-win) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/17949
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08:52 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] emilengler opened pull request #17950: gui: Check the strength of an encryption password (master...2020-01-password-strength-checker) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/17950
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09:22 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] sdaftuar opened pull request #17951: Use rolling bloom filter of recent block txs for AlreadyHave() check (master...2020-01-improve-alreadyhave) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/17951
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10:02 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] elichai opened pull request #17953: refactor: Abstract boost::variant out (master...2020-01-variant) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/17953
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10:34 < elichai2> What's the easiest way to locally reproduce weird configuration failures on travis? (ie run CentOS and/or the TSan case) MarcoFalke 
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11:00 < meshcollider> #startmeeting
11:00 < lightningbot> Meeting started Fri Jan 17 19:00:26 2020 UTC.  The chair is meshcollider. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
11:00 < lightningbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic.
11:00 < meshcollider> #bitcoin-core-dev Wallet Meeting: wumpus sipa gmaxwell jonasschnelli morcos luke-jr sdaftuar jtimon cfields petertodd kanzure bluematt instagibbs phantomcircuit codeshark michagogo marcofalke paveljanik NicolasDorier jl2012 achow101 meshcollider jnewbery maaku fanquake promag provoostenator aj Chris_Stewart_5 dongcarl gwillen jamesob ken281221 ryanofsky gleb moneyball
11:00 < kanzure> hi
11:00 < jnewbery> hi
11:00 < meshcollider> Welcome to the first wallet meeting for 2020 :)
11:00 < jonatack> hi
11:00 < sipa> hi
11:01 < achow101> hi
11:01 < wumpus> hi
11:02 < meshcollider> Does anyone have topic proposals? I'd like to quickly just have a discussion about wallet goals for the longer term since are are getting close to merging #17261
11:02 < gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/17261 | Make ScriptPubKeyMan an actual interface and the wallet to have multiple by achow101 . Pull Request #17261 . bitcoin/bitcoin . GitHub
11:03 < meshcollider> So wallet boxes are really a shorter term goal now \o/ 
11:03 < fjahr> hi
11:03 < achow101> finally
11:03 < jonatack> I'd propose the topic of multilabels
11:04 < jonatack> (after wallet boxes)
11:05 < achow101> meshcollider: so what are the long term goals?
11:06 < jnewbery> meshcollider: are you polling for long-term goals or were you going to tell us what your long-term goals are for the wallet?
11:07 < meshcollider> jnewbery's contributor survey asks everyone what their goals for core are, so if people have been thinking about it, does anyone want to discuss anything they'd like to see in the wallet 
11:07 < meshcollider> Polling :)
11:08 < achow101> I'd like hardware wallet support :)
11:08 < achow101> but, in general, I think wallet boxes will let us do a lot more things
11:08 < jnewbery> clean up the node-wallet interface and make progress towards multiprocess
11:09 < achow101> and I guess semi-related would be miniscript and generic signing code
11:09 < meshcollider> yeah I think there will be lots of opportunities for really good cleanups after the boxes are all merged
11:10 < meshcollider> sipa: anything you envision?
11:11 < sipa> nothing specifically
11:12 < meshcollider> Alright awesome, so we do still have some clear longer term goals to continue with +1
11:12 < meshcollider> #topic Multilabels (jonatack)
11:12 < achow101> also descriptor wallets as a mid-term goal
11:12 < wumpus> would also like hardware wallet support
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11:13 < achow101> jonatack: can you explain what you mean by mulitlabels>
11:13 < jonatack> Multilabels: looking for concept acks on enabling passing an array of labels to
11:14 < jonatack> RPCs setlabel, getnewaddress, importaddress, etc
11:14 < jonatack> and for listransactions to output an array of labels
11:14 < jonatack> and for listreceivedbylabels to filter on said array
11:15 < jonatack> and possibly rm the purpose field in the getaddressesbylabel response
11:15 < meshcollider> Have you thought about whether the GUI display would all labels for each address?
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11:16 < meshcollider> Would display*
11:16 < achow101> I think purpose is separate from labels
11:16 < jonatack> and possibly add a case insensitive arg option for the label filtering in getaddressesbylabel and listtransactions
11:17 < jonatack> meshcollider: i'll admit that i've thought only about the rpc interface so far, if concept ack, would add gui to my thoughts :)
11:17 < jonatack> achow101: agreed
11:17 < achow101> concept ack multiple labels on things
11:18 < meshcollider> Yep supporting multiple labels makes logical sense to me
11:18 < jonatack> also possibly setlabel could receive an array of addresses as well as an array of labels
11:18 < achow101> keep in mind api compatibility though
11:19 < achow101> every place we take a label will need to be able to tae both a string and array of strings otherwise we lose compatibility
11:19 < achow101> same with output. that could be problematic
11:19 < meshcollider> Is "purpose" able to be set by the user currently or does it just default to "receive" automatically
11:19 < jonatack> *etc above also including the importmulti, addmultisigaddress, importprivkey, importpubkey
11:19 < achow101> meshcollider: I don't think it's user accesible
11:20 < jonatack> meshcollider: set to receive or send automatically
11:20 < meshcollider> Sweet
11:21 < achow101> it's "receive", "send", or "". "" is how we determine change
11:21 < jonatack> achow101: api compat -- agreed
11:21 < jonatack> good point
11:22 < meshcollider> Alright any other topics?
11:22 < jonatack> achow101: output hmmmmm
11:23 < jonatack> thanks. any other thoughts hit me up.
11:25 < meshcollider> Alright I guess that's it for today then 
11:26 < meshcollider> #endmeeting
11:26 < lightningbot> Meeting ended Fri Jan 17 19:26:00 2020 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)
11:26 < lightningbot> Minutes:        http://www.erisian.com.au/meetbot/bitcoin-core-dev/2020/bitcoin-core-dev.2020-01-17-19.00.html
11:26 < lightningbot> Minutes (text): http://www.erisian.com.au/meetbot/bitcoin-core-dev/2020/bitcoin-core-dev.2020-01-17-19.00.txt
11:26 < lightningbot> Log:            http://www.erisian.com.au/meetbot/bitcoin-core-dev/2020/bitcoin-core-dev.2020-01-17-19.00.log.html
11:27 < meshcollider> And remember to send (wallet or otherwise) topic discussion ideas for coredev to John or kanzure or someone
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11:30 < kanzure> thank you meshcollider
11:30 < kanzure> and remember, if you don't send topics, then i will randomly assign them to you
11:34 < instagibbs> slept through the meeting oops. For me it's Descriptor-wallets->{HWW/Miniscript} and also more flexible fee-bumping, just *assuming* someday we'll have real fees again
11:34 < jonatack> instagibbs: sgtm
11:34 < instagibbs> achow101 did some related prep work which should make auto-CPFP doable
11:35 < instagibbs> RBF is pretty ok now(anything better is way more complicated), so having CPFP as another tool in the box would be super
11:38 < instagibbs> #17331 is the PR I mentioned, makes effective value everywhere, kills off stupid CreateTransaction loop that has plagued us for years
11:38 < gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/17331 | Use effective values throughout coin selection by achow101 . Pull Request #17331 . bitcoin/bitcoin . GitHub
11:38 < achow101> unforunately no one wants to review coin selection
11:38 < elichai2> I would love to see Descriptor wallets. I hate a PR kinda ready for taproot descriptors so with descriptor wallets I should be able to integrate taproot into the wallet pretty easily 
11:38 < instagibbs> Well, boxing wallet is sucking the air out for now, chill :) 
11:38 < elichai2> (not saying it's anytime soon :P)
11:39 < instagibbs> achow101, also it doesn't appear you have to rebase yet so not very painful 
11:40 < achow101> instagibbs: on the bright side, no one touches coin selection so it doesn't need rebasing :)
11:41 < kanzure> i'd rather review a coin selection simulator before i'd view an individual coin selection implementation?
11:42 < kanzure> e.g. test against variety of circumstances and fee markets
11:42 < instagibbs> kanzure, well I don't particularly care about the algorithms now, see the above PR
11:42 < instagibbs> it's mostly structuring txn creation code to be less dumb
11:43 < achow101> it has a minor impact on the selection algo though
11:43 < jonatack> achow101: i think coin control is interesting :) am just constrained by amount of free time i can spend on bitcoin core
11:43 < instagibbs> If you're ok with being a UTXO cop, I think Core selection is fine. It's when people are dusting you it costs.
11:44 < instagibbs> Verbose and too complicated, but fine :) 
11:47 < elichai2> I'll try again :) Any tips on how to recreate failed travis enviroments locally? I have two weird failures in travis I want to test locally (CentOS one and `x86_64 Linux [GOAL: install] [xenial] [no depends, only system libs, sanitizers: thread (TSan), no wallet]`)
11:49 < jonatack> elichai2: the failing travis logs are unhelpful?
11:49 < elichai2> jonatack: basically compile errors. now I need to figure out why it compiles on some machines and other not
11:50 < achow101> elichai2: what pr?
11:50 < achow101> or travis job
11:50 < elichai2> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/17953
11:50 < elichai2> the 2 Mac ones I know, my problem is with the other 2
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11:51 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] ryanofsky opened pull request #17954: wallet: Remove calls to Chain::Lock methods in wallet (master...pr/unlock) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/17954
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11:51 < elichai2> jonatack: especially when travis doesn't print the exact commands being run :/
11:52 < achow101> elichai2: all of the commands travis runs are in .travis.yml
11:53 < achow101> it calls a bunch of scripts in ci/
11:53 < achow101> those'll have all of the configure commands so you can replicate the config
11:53 < elichai2> achow101: well you need to chase enviroment variables to figure out the exact commands, that what I'm doing now, launched a docker and trying to recreate the env, I think I was able to recreate the TSan error
11:53 < elichai2> hopes there's a ./run_ci_locally lol
11:54 < jonatack> elichai2: i avoid docker like the plague but yeah was thinking test those build environments with it
11:54 < elichai2> jonatack: well easier to have the right g++ version with dockers
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11:56 < jonatack> yes. and maybe push on a different branch running travis locally for the final checks 
11:56 < elichai2> jonatack: right. that's usually what I do after I think i've fixed it
11:56 < jonatack> with just the problematic builds. right. sorry not more helpful
11:56 < elichai2> hmm the Tsan one seems to be either an error in boost or the fact that it's g++5.4 :( I guess I need to include the whole module because of that, why distros why :(
11:57 < achow101> elichai2: you can make a new private repo and setup travis debug builds
11:57 < elichai2> achow101: good idea, i'll add `set -x`
11:57 < achow101> then you can ssh into the travis vm and do things there
11:58 < elichai2> you can ssh into travis?!
11:58 < achow101> https://docs.travis-ci.com/user/running-build-in-debug-mode/
11:58 < achow101> private repos only
11:58 < jonatack> til. cool
11:58 < elichai2> :D Thanks
11:59 < achow101> one thing though, the vms tend to crash when you try to do too much or take too long. happens to me quite a bit
11:59 < luke-jr> it's annoying tho
11:59 < luke-jr> if a step fails, it kills the session still
11:59 < achow101> also private repos are low priority so builds run one at a time and take forever
11:59 < luke-jr> and there's a time limit
12:00 < achow101> I only use it when I can't figure out the problem from logs or replicate it locally
12:07 < luke-jr> travis logs have been super annoying lately IMO - sometimes I enter debug mode simply because I can't figure out *what* failed
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14:20 < fanquake> kanzure what do you mean by randomly assign topics?
14:20 < kanzure> fanquake: just joking :-)
14:21 < kanzure> fanquake: usually i write down topics that i think certain people should talk about
14:21 < kanzure> fanquake: but usually it's not so random and instead based on what people have been working on that i happen to know about
14:21 < fanquake> ?
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16:59 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake pushed 4 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/0deba680646f...a654626f076a
16:59 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master ca62563 Pieter Wuille: Add a generic approach for (de)serialization of objects using code in othe...
16:59 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 2f1b2f4 Pieter Wuille: Convert VARINT to the formatter/Using approach
16:59 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 9b66083 Pieter Wuille: Convert chain to new serialization
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17:00 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake merged pull request #17896: Serialization improvements (step 2) (master...202001_noncastserial_2) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/17896
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