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02:33 < kallewoof> Is there a good way to kick travis when it's not even appearing as a task for a PR?
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02:50 < Stealthy> does anyone know of a nodejs library that will allow to me monitor notifications of transactions or is there another notification mechanism?
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02:59 < provoostenator> kallewoof: open Travis on a different pull request and check for a notification that your account was flagged for "mining bitcoin"
02:59 < kallewoof> Stealthy: zmq?
02:59 < kallewoof> provoostenator: i thought i did. will check agai
03:00 < kallewoof> provoostenator: other PR's trigger travis tho, so doubt that's it
03:00 < provoostenator> In that case force pushing something might help.
03:00 < provoostenator> Otherwise you're basically back to rain dances.
03:01  * kallewoof rain-dances cause he's force pushed for awhile now to no avail
03:01 < kallewoof> Maybe closing/reopening will do the trick. Sorry for spam in advance.
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03:02 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] kallewoof closed pull request #16411: BIP-325: Signet support (master...signet) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/16411
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03:02 < kallewoof> O... travis appeared now
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03:02 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] kallewoof reopened pull request #16411: BIP-325: Signet support (master...signet) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/16411
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03:06 < provoostenator> Maybe it's happening! https://github.com/isaacs/github/issues/386#issuecomment-586708040
03:07 < provoostenator> (an end to Github ordering commits by date)
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03:25 < Stealthy> lol what a weird idea but an idea nonetheless, ty @kallewoof
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03:26 < kallewoof> Stealthy: Not sure what's so weird about it. I use zmq to log txs and block hashes.
03:27 < Stealthy> why sockets, why not a plethora of (named) pipes, files, anything
03:27 < Stealthy> shared memory, databases, callbacks?
03:28 < Stealthy> :P
03:28 < Stealthy> just hoped for a nice nodejs library that will let me fully interface
03:29 < Stealthy> ie  api.monitorWallet(..., callback)
03:29 < kallewoof> Stealthy: zmq works reasonably well, but i hear you. I wouldn't be surprised if there was a nodejs lib out there that does what you want, but most of us here are focused on bitcoin core, as the name of the channel implies.
03:29 < Stealthy> i see
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03:31 < Stealthy> then perhaps a more down to earth option, for example the wallet daemon/rpc for Monero has a flag that you can use 'tx-notify' which can run a script or a program 
03:31 < Stealthy> maybe dumb question but i literally just started orienting around 'crypto'
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03:43 < Stealthy> reason i asked that before i install anything is because i just wasted 3 days on quirky monero lol
03:44 < Stealthy> figured i'd opt for a more mature coin and toolchain but i'm new
03:44 < Stealthy> i should probably figure out how to get things setup and just take it from there
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03:47 < Stealthy> is there like a more general channel
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03:51 < Stealthy> are there any 'full service wallets' that will provide an api of sorts?
03:52 < Stealthy> does bitcoin-qt?
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03:57 < aqua42> Stealthy bitcoind has an rpc
03:59 < Stealthy> cool
03:59 < aqua42> you should head over to #bitcoin though (unless you want to improve the rpc :P), this is for bitcoin-core development 
03:59 < Stealthy> ah :P
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05:31 < promag_> provoostenator: hi
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05:32 < provoostenator> promag: hi
05:32 < provoostenator> _
05:32 < promag> I think should discuss here instead :D
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05:33 < promag> with your PR, a client can fund with a specific utxo and ask it to be locked
05:33 < provoostenator> Context #18244
05:33 < gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/18244 | rpc: have lockUnspents also lock manually selected coins by Sjors · Pull Request #18244 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
05:33 < promag> y
05:33 < promag> but if that utxo was automatically locked elsewhere then you both clients are racing for it
05:33 < promag> right?
05:34 < promag> s/you//
05:34 < provoostenator> Yes
05:34 < promag> that's why I think that fund should fail if it's already locked
05:34 < promag> and it's a simple change
05:34 < promag> and a simple test
05:35 < provoostenator> Alternative it means the existing behavior is a feature, not a  bug.
05:36 < provoostenator> An undocumented an scary feature :-)
05:36 < provoostenator> My original plan was to indeed just honor locks.
05:36 < promag> yeah, it's the same as saying "I don't care about being locked"
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05:36 < promag> which is silly to me
05:37 < provoostenator> But then it'll be a breaking change. Maybe worth it.
05:37 < promag> if the client is asking to lock the coins then I agree with the breaking change
05:37 < provoostenator> Breaking change as in: breaking documented behavior, not just undocumented behavior
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05:38 < promag> breaking documented behavior? really?
05:38 < promag> which doc?
05:38 < provoostenator> https://bitcoincore.org/en/doc/0.19.0/rpc/wallet/lockunspent/
05:39 < provoostenator> "A locked transaction output will not be chosen by automatic coin selection, when spending bitcoins."
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05:39 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] konez2k opened pull request #18277: Ban spamnode (master...ban-spamnode) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/18277
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05:39 < provoostenator> Which it implies, though it doesn't litteraly say, manual _does_ get chosen.
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05:39 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] konez2k closed pull request #18277: Ban spamnode (master...ban-spamnode) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/18277
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05:40 < provoostenator> So I guess the assumption was that if you use manual coin selection, you've thought through concurrency. That's a bad assumption though.
05:40 < promag> right
05:40 < provoostenator> Because our coin selection isn't amazing.
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05:41 < promag> but note that RPC lockunspent already can fail with "Invalid parameter, output already locked"
05:41 < promag> it's manual locking, so that's why I think your manual funding should behave the same
05:42 < provoostenator> Ah well, looks like you wrote the original behavior :-) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/commit/f2d0944eb372838e05c666ce9b3df119d7da5594
05:42 < promag> if lockunspent option is set
05:42 < promag> ah surprise! lol didn't rememeber
05:43 < provoostenator> Merge script was borked, so we can't see which PR it was.
05:43 < provoostenator> Or maybe just Github is confused
05:44 < promag> I can find the PR
05:44 < fanquake> #7518
05:44 < gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/7518 | Add multiple options to fundrawtransaction by promag · Pull Request #7518 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
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05:44 < fanquake> That's it
05:44 < promag> thanks captain fanquake!
05:44 < provoostenator> Thanks, always good to read original disucssion. I'll make a change.
05:45 < promag> provoostenator: well at least that's my opinion.. maybe wait for others to weight in
05:45 < promag> in any case, nice catch
05:46 < provoostenator> I keep running into "interesting" behavior while writing tests for #16378
05:46 < gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/16378 | The ultimate send RPC by Sjors · Pull Request #16378 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
05:48 < promag> provoostenator: only problem is that if you lock utxo1, utxo2 and fail to lock utxo3 then the others must be unlocked
05:49 < promag> or before locking, just check that all are unlocked
05:51 < provoostenator> Ooof, atomic locking?
05:53 < provoostenator> We have a lock on cs_wallet, so I guess checking if all coins are unlocked makes sense.
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06:05 < promag> provoostenator: y
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06:07 < provoostenator> Mmm, this does create the opposite problem: you can no longer atomically unlock and use a coin. I could add an option for that.
06:07 < provoostenator> This is how worms leave cans.
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06:11 < instagibbs> who actually uses the lockunspent RPC? <_<
06:11 < instagibbs> I think anyone who *really* cares writes their own coin selection algo, or separates the utxos into different wallets. Maybe I'm projecting on uses
06:13 < provoostenator> I would like locks to be persistent, then they're actually quite useful for a individual users too.
06:13 < promag> well suppose you start with a solution based on locks and then refatocr to custom coin selection 
06:13 < promag> instagibbs: ^
06:14 < promag> persistent locks -> yeah there's an issue about that
06:14 < instagibbs> I'm being glib :)
06:14 < instagibbs> (though mostly serious)
06:14 < promag> provoostenator: not following your latest use case
06:14 < promag> "you can no longer atomically unlock and use a coin"
06:16 < provoostenator> I'm starting to think that use case is undesirable anyway.
06:16 < promag> the problem with coin locks to me is that you really don't know who is locking. if a client locks a coin and then crashes, that coin is stuck
06:16 < provoostenator> I guess there's two reason why you'd want a lock with concurrency. One is seperation of funds, which is better handled with seperate wallets.
06:17 < instagibbs> what's the first use case?
06:17 < provoostenator> The other is "pending" transactions, where you lock some coins and then unlock them if you no longer need them.
06:17 < instagibbs> rephrase?
06:17 < provoostenator> So an unlock_coins options doesn't make sense.
06:17 < instagibbs> oh "reserving" funds?
06:18 < promag> instagibbs: yes that's one use case
06:18 < instagibbs> I've never really heard of that tbh... and strikes me as obscure
06:19 < provoostenator> For privacy reasons a user may want  to lock (toxic) coins. But they might be beter off sending those to a seperate wallet.
06:19 < promag> so you receive some payment and then you don't want that to be used in your following sends
06:19 < instagibbs> doesn't prevent dusting(unless you can ban scriptpubkeys wholesale)
06:19 < provoostenator> Up to recently I didn't even think about the concurrency use case :-)
06:20 < provoostenator> But that's actually its reason d'etre
06:21 < provoostenator> promag: well, at least not combined with other coins. But we need a different mechanism for that.
06:21 < provoostenator> Maybe a "don't mix" flag.
06:23 < promag> provoostenator: the solution is simple use watchonly until you want to spend
06:24 < promag> anyway, up until your PR, no coin was allowed to be re-locked
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07:09 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] promag opened pull request #18280: fix: Disconnect validation interface on the queue dispacher (master...2020-03-sync-unregistervalidationinterface) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/18280
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07:09 < puchu> hi
07:09 < puchu> hi ryanofsky, luke-jr told me you are working on the gui hangs?
07:10 < puchu> is there somewhere a doc about the problems? and which parts need separate thread and not run in the gui thread?
07:11 < provoostenator> promag: done
07:12 < promag> I've changed my mind :D
07:13 < provoostenator> It's locked in
07:17 < promag> :D
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08:14 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke opened pull request #18282: util: Use std::chrono for time getters (master...2003-timeChrono) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/18282
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09:00 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke closed pull request #18282: util: Use std::chrono for time getters (master...2003-timeChrono) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/18282
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09:28 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke opened pull request #18283: doc: Explain rebase policy in CONTRIBUTING.md (master...2003-docRebase) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/18283
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11:32 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/97aadf98d0b8...45cdcd47d99e
11:32 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 259e290 practicalswift: tests: Add fuzzing harness for locale independence testing
11:32 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 45cdcd4 MarcoFalke: Merge #18126: tests: Add fuzzing harness testing the locale independence o...
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11:32 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke merged pull request #18126: tests: Add fuzzing harness testing the locale independence of the strencodings.h functions (master...fuzzers-locale) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/18126
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11:42 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] JeremyRubin closed pull request #18120: Change UpdateForDescendants to use Epochs (master...epoch-mempool-clean-split-updatefordescendants-pt1) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/18120
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11:51 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] JeremyRubin closed pull request #18063: Improve UpdateForDescendants by using Epochs and Removing CacheMap (master...epoch-mempool-clean-split-2) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/18063
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11:53 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 7 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/45cdcd47d99e...3516a31eaa77
11:53 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 306f71b Anthony Towns: scheduler: don't rely on boost interrupt on shutdown
11:53 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master b9c4260 Anthony Towns: sync.h: add REVERSE_LOCK
11:53 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master d0ebd93 Anthony Towns: scheduler: switch from boost to std
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11:53 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj merged pull request #18234: refactor: Replace boost::mutex,condition_var,chrono with std equivalents in scheduler (master...202002-scheduler-deboost) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/18234
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11:55 < jeremyrubin> bitcoin 2020 is postponed to Q3
11:55 < jeremyrubin> We could coordinate having a coredev.tech then?
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12:05 < luke-jr> MarcoFalke: where is mockscheduler disabled?
12:05 < MarcoFalke> luke-jr: Nevermind. It is only in master
12:05 < MarcoFalke> But 18234 was merged already
12:06 < luke-jr> right, so this is backport-only now, at most
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13:10 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke opened pull request #18285: test: Check that wait_until returns if time point is in the past (master...2002-debugBoost) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/18285
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13:49 < Stealthy> how are ListSinceBlock transactions ordered
13:49 < Stealthy> not chronological for sure
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14:23 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] practicalswift closed pull request #17828: net: Use log categories when logging events that P2P peers can trigger arbitrarily (master...log-categories) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/17828
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14:33 < nothingmuch> is there a reccomended approach to creating a json compilation database? bear seems like the simplest approach but it's segfaulting for me and i'm having trouble debugging, and i'm not sure how to convince automake to add -MJ to clang in the right way so that the json files are written separately
14:34 < fanquake> nothingmuch: try compiledb https://github.com/fanquake/core-review/blob/master/clang-tools.md#generating-a-compilation-database
14:34 < nothingmuch> thanks!
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14:56 < fanquake> So looks like a couple of travis jobs (fuzzing) are going to continually fail until someone adds "locale" seeds to https://github.com/bitcoin-core/qa-assets/tree/master/fuzz_seed_corpus ?
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14:57 < fanquake> MarcoFalke: are you are going to do that shortly given you merged #18126 ?
14:57 < gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/18126 | tests: Add fuzzing harness testing the locale independence of the strencodings.h functions by practicalswift · Pull Request #18126 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
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15:25 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master dc2d065 Karl-Johan Alm: make BlockUntilSyncedToCurrentChain() const
15:25 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master ddc9355 Karl-Johan Alm: wallet: make CanGenerateKeys() const
15:25 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 037fa77 Karl-Johan Alm: wallet: make KeypoolCountExternalKeys() const
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15:25 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake merged pull request #18241: wallet/refactor: refer to CWallet immutably when possible (master...2002-const-fixes) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/18241
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15:32 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] practicalswift opened pull request #18286: build: Add locale fuzzer to FUZZERS_MISSING_CORPORA (and unbreak Travis! :)) (master...unbreak-travis-sorry) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/18286
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16:05 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/4d80274b9963...3d28c886f077
16:05 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 0d0bc3b practicalswift: build: Add locale fuzzer to FUZZERS_MISSING_CORPORA
16:05 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 3d28c88 fanquake: Merge #18286: build: Add locale fuzzer to FUZZERS_MISSING_CORPORA (and unb...
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16:05 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake merged pull request #18286: test: Add locale fuzzer to FUZZERS_MISSING_CORPORA (master...unbreak-travis-sorry) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/18286
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17:40 < luke-jr> wumpus: I can rebase POWER64 gitian, but I no longer know the answers to the review questions.
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19:59 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] luke-jr opened pull request #18287: depends: Patch libevent build to fix IPv6 -rpcbind on Windows (master...fix_libevent_win_ipv6) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/18287
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