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00:18 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake pushed 4 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/362f9c60a54e...c73bd004ae81
00:18 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master c6131bf Pieter Wuille: Abstract logic to determine whether to answer tx GETDATA
00:18 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master f2f32a3 Pieter Wuille: Push down use of cs_main into FindTxForGetData
00:18 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 2896c41 Pieter Wuille: Do not answer GETDATA for to-be-announced tx
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00:19 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake merged pull request #18861: Do not answer GETDATA for to-be-announced tx (master...202004_private_getdata) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/18861
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00:41 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/c73bd004ae81...042ff521421f
00:41 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master fa243be MarcoFalke: log: Remove "No rpcpassword set" from logs
00:41 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 042ff52 fanquake: Merge #18999: log: Remove "No rpcpassword set" from logs
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00:42 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake merged pull request #18999: log: Remove "No rpcpassword set" from logs (master...2005-logRpcPassword) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/18999
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00:44 < elichai2> Finished reading http://www.erisian.com.au/meetbot/bitcoin-core-dev/2020/bitcoin-core-dev.2020-05-08-19.00.log.html, I have a naive question, no-one suggested using leveldb(since we already use that in validation) to replace bdb, is it because the main reason is for future table features or there is something bad/problematic with leveldb?
00:46 < aj> i think it might be that leveldb isn't a single-file database, so it's hard for users to move their wallet to a new pc or similar?
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00:53 < elichai2> that's a good argument :)
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00:59 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] hosseinamin closed pull request #14898:  rpc listtransactions new argument options (paginatebypointer impl)  (master...master) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/14898
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01:11 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake pushed 3 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/042ff521421f...e7736854ef6c
01:11 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master fa006ca MarcoFalke: ci: tsan on clang-9
01:11 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master faf5521 MarcoFalke: ci: Set DEBIAN_FRONTEND=noninteractive
01:11 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master e773685 fanquake: Merge #19008: ci: tsan on clang-9
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01:11 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake merged pull request #19008: ci: tsan on clang-9 (master...2005-ciTsanFocal) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/19008
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03:08 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] Sjors opened pull request #19013: test: add v0.20.0 to backwards compatibility test  (master...2020/05/previous_release_0.20) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/19013
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04:10 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke opened pull request #19014: test: Replace TEST_PREVIOUS_RELEASES env var with test_framework option (master...2005-testPrevReleases) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/19014
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04:11 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake closed pull request #18903: test: fix TEST_PREVIOUS_RELEASES check (master...getenv_defaults_to_None) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/18903
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05:35 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] jonasschnelli pushed 7 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/e7736854ef6c...d44dd513226f
05:35 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 1df7701 Hennadii Stepanov: refactor: Remove unused bool parameter in BlockNotifyGenesisWait()
05:35 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 2bec309 Hennadii Stepanov: refactor: Remove unused bool parameter in RPCNotifyBlockChange()
05:35 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 1dab574 Hennadii Stepanov: refactor: Pass SynchronizationState enum to GUI
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05:36 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] jonasschnelli merged pull request #18152: qt: Use SynchronizationState enum for signals to GUI (master...20200215-pr18121-followup2) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/18152
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05:40 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] practicalswift opened pull request #19015: build: Enable some commonly enabled compiler diagnostics (master...compiler-diagnostics) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/19015
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05:56 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke pushed 3 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/d44dd513226f...aa8d76806c74
05:56 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 2abe8cc Luke Dashjr: Bugfix: Include "csv","!segwit" in "rules"
05:56 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 412d5fe Luke Dashjr: QA: feature_segwit: Check that template "rules" includes "!segwit" as appr...
05:56 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master aa8d768 MarcoFalke: Merge #17946: Fix GBT: Restore "!segwit" and "csv" to "rules" key
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05:57 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke merged pull request #17946: Fix GBT: Restore "!segwit" and "csv" to "rules" key (master...fix_gbt_buried) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/17946
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06:26 < fanquake> Anyone want to offer an opinion in #18956
06:26 < gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/18956 | build: enforce minimum required Windows version (7) by fanquake · Pull Request #18956 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
06:27 < fanquake> I'll take a "couldn't care less"
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06:43 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] practicalswift closed pull request #18920: doc: Document how to analyze Bitcoin Core using Clang Static Analysis, clang-tidy and cppcheck (master...static-analysis-clang-tidy) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/18920
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08:24 < michaelfolkson> fanquake: What do we know about how many people (if any) are running on these versions of these Windows?
08:26 < michaelfolkson> fanquake: By enforce you mean not only do we not wish to support it we also want to do everything in our power that people don't try to run on these Windows versions?
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08:27 < michaelfolkson> Doesn't impact me personally so I guess that is a "couldn't care less" :)
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08:56 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke closed pull request #16756: test: Connection eviction logic tests (master...201908_test_eviction) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/16756
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08:56 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke reopened pull request #16756: test: Connection eviction logic tests (master...201908_test_eviction) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/16756
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09:43 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] limpbrains opened pull request #19018: docs: fixing description of the field sequence in walletcreatefundedpsbt RPC method (master...walletcreatefundedpsbt-fix-docs) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/19018
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13:06 < phantomcircuit> sipa, any opposition to putting the generated scriptPubKey's into FillableSigningProvider::mapScripts ?
13:07 < sipa> phantomcircuit: achow101 may be a better person to ask at this point
13:08 < phantomcircuit> achow101, same question^
13:08 < achow101> for what purpose?
13:12 < sipa> also, what does generated mean, and which signingprovider?
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19:16 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/aa8d76806c74...0aa2ff0f660e
19:16 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master e8a8cff fanquake: build: enforce minimum required Windows version (7)
19:16 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 0aa2ff0 fanquake: Merge #18956: build: enforce minimum required Windows version (7)
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19:54 < jb55> I'm still new to the codebase, sorry if dumb question: but looking at undo blocks/rev*.dat files: does a node really need to store (37GB on my node currently) worth of undo blocks? is this just an optimization? couldn't you do this on the fly?
19:54 < sipa> define "on the fly" ?
19:55 < sipa> if you mean "at disconnect time", no, that would be extremely slow (it would need a linear scan through all previous block to find the outputs being spent)
19:55 < sipa> if you mean created at connect time, that's what it's doing
19:56 < sipa> in non-pruning mode you could see it as an optimization, but only in so far that the concept of a UTXO set is an optimization...
19:56 < sipa> in pruning node it's data that's not otherwise available
19:57 < jb55> ah ok I think I was missing the linear scan to find outputs bit
19:57 < sipa> you can see blocks as patches to the UTXO set "delete this UTXO, add this UTXO", plus witnesses that authenticate the patch
19:58 < sipa> the undo data is the reverse patch; it contains the actual UTXO data deleted by a block
19:59 < jb55> sipa: how many patches are kept, is there a way to tweak that?
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20:00 < sipa> jb55: for every block you keep, the undo data is kept
20:00 < sipa> if you prune blocks, the undo data is also pruned along with it
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20:01 < sipa> there could be a knob to change that, in case you're ok with not being able to reorg back to block height H, but still want to be able to that block to others on the network
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20:01 < sipa> or want it for rescanning
20:01 < sipa> undo data is around 9x smaller than the corresponding block data iirc
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20:03 < jb55> sipa: so if you pruned the undos you couldn't rescan before a certain point? it has to apply those patches back to the rescan point to determine the utxo state at that height?
20:03 < sipa> jb55: if you prune you don't have the blocks either, so you lose the ability to rescan anyway
20:04 < sipa> and rescanning is about finding transactions, not UTXOs
20:04 < sipa> undo data is solely used for disconnecting block (though there is a PR open to also use it for some block statistics, i think)
20:04 < jb55> was just thinking if there was an option to prune the undo blocks, was wondering what the consequences were
20:05 < sipa> you'd be unable to reorg back
20:05 < sipa> which is extremely unlikely to be a problem beyond a few 100 or 1000 blocks
20:07 < jb55> yeah I would like to prune undo blocks past 100 or so, and would try to PR it if it makes sense
20:07 < sipa> ah, i forgot: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/16083 added statistics using undo data
20:08 < sipa> pruning is restricted to keeping at least 288 blocks, i think
20:08 < sipa> it may make sense to have the same limit
20:08 < jb55> sure
20:08 < gwillen> I think it's already the case that if we reorg more than 100 blocks deep, things have gone very wrong, yeah?
20:09 < jb55> proof of aliens trolling us
20:09 < sipa> jb55: on the other hand... if you care getting rid of 10% of disk usage, maybe you should consider just pruning 
20:10 < sipa> it's not a perfect argument; there are things you can do with blocks that don't need undo data... but undo data is also an order of magnitude smaller
20:11 < jb55> sipa: I like the full db for analysis and rescan. any optimization on top of that is nice.
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23:49 < fanquake> Thanks elichai2. Looks like GitHub does send two email notifications
23:50 < elichai2> actually it's not that ridiculous because its probably sending 2 unrelated emails. 1 for notifying about the PR. 2. for telling you you were chosen to review a PR. right?
23:50 < fanquake> Correct
23:52 < fanquake> https://imgur.com/a/KYgbJlV
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