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00:09 < kallewoof> very nathan pyle'esque
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00:38 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] vasild closed pull request #19929: sync: use proper TSA attributes (master...use_proper_tsa_attributes) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/19929
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01:30 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/ba4b3fbcf213...06dbbe76dd02
01:30 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 812037c Pieter Wuille: Change CSipHasher's count variable to uint8_t
01:30 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 06dbbe7 fanquake: Merge #19931: Change CSipHasher's count variable to uint8_t
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01:31 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake merged pull request #19931: Change CSipHasher's count variable to uint8_t (master...202009_siphash_sillyness) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/19931
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06:46 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] vasild opened pull request #19954: tor: make a TORv3 hidden service instead of TORv2 (master...torv3) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/19954
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09:14 < jb55> achow101: is it possible to corrupt wallets when jumping between master and v0.20.1? trying to figure out how all my wallets got nuked
09:14 < achow101> jb55: was it a descriptor wallet?
09:15 < achow101> otherwise, they shouldn't be corrupted
09:15 < jb55> well I loaded one to test, and obviously that failed to load when I went back. but I have really old wallets and wallets I've imported with importmulti. all of them have random keys in them now. its super weird: https://jb55.com/s/6ae99d5e19df80a3.png
09:16 < jb55> all of them have private keys enabled as well even though they were all watch only before
09:16 < jb55> if this is corruption its super weird no?
09:16 < achow101> sounsd like the private keys disabled flag got lost somehow
09:17 < achow101> which would be considered corruption
09:17 < jb55> for some reason when I upgraded to 0.20.1 it redownloaded the entire blockchain and all my wallets are unrecognizable/didn't pick up any txs during rescan
09:17 < jb55> something super weird going on
09:17 < achow101> that seems like a datadir issue
09:19 < jb55> guess I this gives me a change to reimport everything as descriptor wallets :P
09:26 < sipa> wumpus: it seems 0.20.1 is not bitcoin.org yet? https://github.com/bitcoin-dot-org/Bitcoin.org/pull/3435
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11:21 < phantomcircuit> jb55, did you build against the right version of bdb?
11:22 < phantomcircuit> oh nvm that doesn't seem like a version mismatch
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11:25 < jb55> I had the same thought but I didn't see any bdb updates between the nixpkgs revisions I updated
11:27 < jb55> but the fact that the blockchain redownloaded and all my wallets are scrambled seems to point to something going very wrong on my zfs storage after I updated my kernel/nixpkgs. still haven't figured it out though
11:28 < jb55> just surprised the wallets didn't fail to load and they're just filled with random keys I don't recognize =/
11:31 < luke-jr> :|
11:35 < phantomcircuit> jb55, is your zfs array mounted?
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11:37 < jb55> phantomcircuit: what do you mean?
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11:41 < sipa> jb55: i assume phantomcircuit means: is it possible you started bitcoind with the intended FS not mounted? if so, bitcoind would create fresh wallet(s)
11:42 < jb55> sipa: oh that seems likely, since they all look like new wallets
11:42 < jb55> now I'm wondering where the old ones went =/
11:43 < sipa> it would also explain why your node is starting sync from scratch :)
11:43 < phantomcircuit> jb55, often when upgrading kernels or zfs you can endup with zfs not actually loading filesystems or mounting them
11:44 < phantomcircuit> sounds like that's what happened
11:44 < jb55> well that's incredibly annoying
11:44 < phantomcircuit> the files are still in zfs probably you just have to actually mount the fs
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11:46 < sipa> solution: use ZFS as your root filesystem
11:46 < sipa> that way it'll just fail to boot if something goes wrong
11:47 < luke-jr> XD
11:47 < sipa> (not joking, it's what i do)
11:47 < luke-jr> or even if it's /home, nothing should autocreate the dirs per user
11:47 < luke-jr> sipa: I also use ZFS for root
11:48 < sipa> cool
11:48 < jb55> I created a mountpoint /zbig/bitcoin on top of my /zbig hdd so that I could snapshot specifically that directory and none others. I think this is where I f'd up somehow
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11:50 < jb55> I do use zfs for root as well on my ssd, but I don't think that was the issue here. definitely some mounting issue. thx guys
11:50 < sipa> woah! github now lists commits in a PR in topological order?
11:50 < sipa> when did that changer?
11:50 < jb55> finalllyyy
11:51 < sdaftuar> \o/
11:52 < luke-jr> inb4 we are merely inside sipa's dream
11:52 < sipa> https://github.blog/changelog/2020-07-14-pull-request-commits-now-ordered-chronologically/
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11:53 < sipa> i guess by "chronological order in the head branch" they mean topological...
11:53 < luke-jr> lol @ using chronological for the opposite
11:54 < sipa> ah, i think it may mean it's sorting by the internal "CommitDate" value in commits, which is reset on rebasing
11:55 < sipa> rather than the usually shown AuthorDate value, which is not normally rewritten
11:55 < sdaftuar> so my commit-date-grinding tool might break this? doh.
11:55  * sipa inspects sdaftuar's old commits
11:55 < sdaftuar> (actually, now i don't remember what timestamp i was grinding on, i should check)
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12:00 < sdaftuar> sweet, i was using AuthorDate, good to go
12:03 < luke-jr> sdaftuar: grind? just set it.. :P
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12:05 < phantomcircuit> luke-jr, presumably he was grinding the short id
12:08 < sdaftuar> e.g https://github.com/sdaftuar/bitcoin/commit/daf12f23bff6033f76dfb4c66f6ea9e699e7992b
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12:08 < sdaftuar> much better version of #19858 if you ask me
12:09 < gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/19858 | Periodically make block-relay connections and sync headers by sdaftuar · Pull Request #19858 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
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12:10 < sipa> what's ground about it? (that's the past tense of to grind, right?)
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12:11 < sdaftuar> "daf..."
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12:11 < sipa> ah!
12:11 < sdaftuar> i think the "t" was going to be hard
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12:54 < sipa> sdaftuar: i don't see any actual commits in the bitcoin/bitcoin history though
12:54 < sipa> *like that
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13:58 < sdaftuar> sipa: i guess this version of #15141 was never merged (though it would have been fun): https://github.com/sdaftuar/bitcoin/commits/15141.9
13:58 < gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/15141 | Rewrite DoS interface between validation and net_processing by sdaftuar · Pull Request #15141 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
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14:31 < phantomcircuit> sdaftuar, i thought grinding was relatively cheap?
14:33 < sipa> it should just be SHA-1 hashing
14:33 < sipa> of the entire commit body + headers, though
14:35 < phantomcircuit> i guess to actually do it efficiently you'd need to be grinding something at the of the commit body
14:42 < luke-jr> phantomcircuit: that's the commit message
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14:43 < phantomcircuit> or make the entire headers + commit body less than 80 bytes
14:43 < sipa> just end the commit with "Here is a random hex string! 2f3a531408d18276e183ab216c"
14:43 < phantomcircuit> 40 bytes? 
14:44 < sipa> *message
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14:45 < aj> sdaftuar: could use 5 as a standin for s?
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14:48 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] n1rna opened pull request #19956: rpc: Improve invalid vout value rpc error message (master...rpc-invalid-vout-message) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/19956
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15:12 < yanmaani> What happened to the headers-only/SPV mode? (fClient)
15:14 < aj> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/2161 ?
15:17 < sipa> ?
15:20 < emzy> how to request onion addresses from a dnsseed?
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15:21 < sipa> emzy: they're just treated as IPv6 (using onioncat encoding)
15:21 < sipa> i guess there could be a request flag for that
15:21  * sipa makes mental note: crap, not compatible with torv3
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15:22 < emzy> but how to request.
15:22 < sipa> emzy: request AAAA records
15:22 < emzy> sipa: I had that realisation also.
15:22 < sipa> there is no special way to restrict just those
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15:23 < sipa> emzy: on the other hand, when you're using bitcoin behind tor, you probably don't want to use dnsseeds in the first place, but addr_fetch nodes, which don't have that problem
15:23 < emzy> dig -t aaaa x49.dnsseed.emzy.de
15:24 < emzy> Yes I think there is a way to use dns with tor.
15:24 < emzy> over tor.
15:25 < luke-jr> what would tor do if we had a well-known onion privkey?
15:25 < luke-jr> would it do a sane anycast?
15:25 < emzy> btw. I have the import to bind working. I'm now setting up a test dns server.
15:26 < sipa> emzy: if you use bitcoin core with -proxy, dns seeds are not used directly; instead, a connection is made to the NS name of the DNS seeds (which in case of tor causes the exit node to resolve it, pick a random result, and forward the connection there), and a getaddr is requested, and the connection is closed after getting a response
15:27 < sipa> so in that scenario, the fact that dns seeds can't encode torv3 address isn't really a problem - the addr response will
15:28 < emzy> I see.
15:29 < sipa> luke-jr: https://tor.stackexchange.com/questions/13/can-a-hidden-service-be-hosted-by-multiple-instances-of-tor
15:29 < luke-jr> sipa: sounds attackable
15:29 < sipa> how so?
15:30 < luke-jr> sipa: an attacker would just ensure his is publsihed most recently
15:31 < sipa> luke-jr: you're not supposed to share private keys with other parties
15:31 < sipa> i'm just answering what would answer if you did; i don't think it's a supported use case or advisable
15:31 < sipa> s/answer/happen/
15:46 < yanmaani> luke-jr: I don't think that would be stable.
15:46 < yanmaani> If you want load balancing, there's onionbalance
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16:02 < luke-jr> yanmaani: I want trustless anycast
16:02 < luke-jr> yanmaani: route to any random node(s)
16:03 < yanmaani> nope, that wouldn't work
16:04 < yanmaani> For what purpose? Transaction broadcasting?
16:06 < yanmaani> One approach to that would be to make all Bitcoin nodes connect to the BitTorrent DHT, then randomly enter the BitTorrent DHT by brute-forcing IPv4 IPs (<200 UDP packets on average), and then broadcast to them. Or you could have Bitcoin receive transactions on UDP, and just send them to 0.0.0.0/0:8333.
16:08 < yanmaani> 2^32 * 250 / 100 MBit = 24h
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16:18 < phantomcircuit> emzy, you can do all the dns requests over tcp over tor, but that's kind of insane
16:22 < emzy> Why insane?
16:22 < emzy> For torsocks docs: "torsocks can force the libc resolver to use TCP for name queries, if it does this it does it regardless of whether or not the DNS to be queried is local or not. This introduces overhead and should only be used when needed. "
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19:50 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] meshcollider pushed 4 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/06dbbe76dd02...ffaac6e6142a
19:50 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 1bc8d0f Sjors Provoost: [rpc] walletcreatefundedpsbt: allow inputs to be null
19:50 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 2c2a144 Sjors Provoost: [rpc] add snake case aliases for transaction methods
19:50 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 92326d8 Sjors Provoost: [rpc] add send method
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19:52 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] meshcollider merged pull request #16378: The ultimate send RPC (master...2019/07/send) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/16378
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21:05 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/ffaac6e6142a...5d5e335f9697
21:05 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master d110200 grubles: Add OpenBSD instructions for building the Qt GUI
21:05 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 5d5e335 fanquake: Merge #19903: Update build-openbsd.md with GUI support
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21:06 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake merged pull request #19903: Update build-openbsd.md with GUI support (master...update-openbsd-build-instructions) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/19903
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22:43 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] kallewoof opened pull request #19957: rpc: alias helper (master...202009-rpc-alias) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/19957
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23:23 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake closed pull request #19130: doc: make it easier to work out size of bloom filter (master...202005-bloom-doc) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/19130
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23:25  * jonatack seems hard to improve your network score as a tor v3 service when there's only one other out there you can connect to :D
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23:31 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake closed pull request #14425: Net: Do not re-enable Onion network when it was disabled via onlynet (master...do-not-reenable-Tor-when-disabled-via-onlynet) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/14425
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23:34 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake closed pull request #13533: [tests] Reduced number of validations in tx_validationcache_tests (master...reduce-txvalidationcache_tests-runtime) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/13533
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23:54 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] hebasto closed pull request #19783: build, doc: Make explicit dependency of system zlib for building depends (master...200823-zlib) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/19783
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